HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive - page 70.

FlungSpun

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Quote from: Tranz on July 06, 2017, 02:22:06 PM

Quote from: FlungSpun on July 06, 2017, 01:44:11 PM

Would be great to have a POS coin working nicely on ultra low cost hardware RPi etc.
I know people did this in the early days with HBN but .... works anymore?

As an aside what thoughts on linking the wallet / address online time with minting/mining?
I believe CLAM has a requirement to be active on the network for x period as well as have coin age.
Can that also be applied to POW? If so it could curtail flash mining somehow?

Agreed. I hope to be back on the Pi someday.

Sounds like Proof of Connection to me. Sounds cool, but probably more complicated then needed.

Here is a very simple code to ensure only 1 PoW for every 1 PoS.

Quote

if ( IsProofOfWork() && nHeight > POW_LIMIT_HEIGHT) )
   {
   if ( pindexPrev->IsProofOfWork())
   return error("AcceptBlock() : PoW must come afer PoS only");
   }

Lots of stuff in crypto "sounds cool"

Solution is usually the simple one. Sold!

Tranz

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Quote from: FlungSpun on July 06, 2017, 01:44:11 PM

Would be great to have a POS coin working nicely on ultra low cost hardware RPi etc.
I know people did this in the early days with HBN but .... works anymore?

As an aside what thoughts on linking the wallet / address online time with minting/mining?
I believe CLAM has a requirement to be active on the network for x period as well as have coin age.
Can that also be applied to POW? If so it could curtail flash mining somehow?

Agreed. I hope to be back on the Pi someday.

Sounds like Proof of Connection to me. Sounds cool, but probably more complicated then needed.

Here is a very simple code to ensure only 1 PoW for every 1 PoS.

Quote

if ( IsProofOfWork() && nHeight > POW_LIMIT_HEIGHT) )
   {
   if ( pindexPrev->IsProofOfWork())
   return error("AcceptBlock() : PoW must come afer PoS only");
   }

FlungSpun

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Quote from: Tranz on July 06, 2017, 01:49:21 PM

Quote from: FlungSpun on July 06, 2017, 01:44:11 PM

I'd ask a slightly different question.
How many people keep their wallets offline until stake time due to cpu / memory issues?

If that is the root cause of low difficulty, look to repair the flaw and the average difficulty will go up when all wallets are online and chugging.

yeah I do say that as one of the guilty. Also wish I was not.

Otherwise, yeah, probably kill POW but care with network security.

This is good point. CPU will be address along with this Fork. Will memory? Hopefully, but that might be later.

Would be great to have a POS coin working nicely on ultra low cost hardware RPi etc.
I know people did this in the early days with HBN but .... works anymore?

As an aside what thoughts on linking the wallet / address online time with minting/mining?
I believe CLAM has a requirement to be active on the network for x period as well as have coin age.
Can that also be applied to POW? If so it could curtail flash mining somehow?

Tranz

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Quote from: FlungSpun on July 06, 2017, 01:44:11 PM

I'd ask a slightly different question.
How many people keep their wallets offline until stake time due to cpu / memory issues?

If that is the root cause of low difficulty, look to repair the flaw and the average difficulty will go up when all wallets are online and chugging.

yeah I do say that as one of the guilty. Also wish I was not.

Otherwise, yeah, probably kill POW but care with network security.

This is good point. CPU will be address along with this Fork. Will memory? Hopefully, but that might be later.

FlungSpun

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Activity: 414

Merit: 251

I'd ask a slightly different question.
How many people keep their wallets offline until stake time due to cpu / memory issues?

If that is the root cause of low difficulty, look to repair the flaw and the average difficulty will go up when all wallets are online and chugging.

yeah I do say that as one of the guilty. Also wish I was not.

Otherwise, yeah, probably kill POW but care with network security.

panpine

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Quote from: Tranz on July 06, 2017, 11:01:12 AM

Hey Everyone.

Would like a quick feedback/vote.

Right now the difficulty for HBN is very low. Not many miners these days. And those who are mining are taking advantage via flash mining. They wait until no blocks have been mined for hours and the diff drifts lower and lower, then they turn on 100+ mh/s and crush though block after block after block. This either causes large Regorgs or wallet delays.

So I would like to do something for this. Here are a few options.

1) Turn off PoW of completely.
2) Set minimum PoW Difficulty to say 2 or 3 or higher.
3) Only allow 1 PoW block for every 5 PoS blocks.

I am leaning towards 1 or 3. Likely 1. Would like to implement something before July is over. So going to move quickly..

What say ye?

definitely not to turn off completely , It is great still have a possibility to dig some hobonickels by yourself. 2 and 3 looks too hardcoded as well. I would prefer some dynamic algorithm applied. something like every second block can be POWed and if there is flashmining like u said set even worse scarcity next rounds .. more work I know

Tranz

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Quote from: versprichnix on July 06, 2017, 11:26:26 AM

1) no comment, I have not enough skills to estimate the implications

2) as soon as price would tenfold, the problems would come back. But perhaps you can bind the PoW difficulty to the PoS difficulty in some way.

3) possible

1 should be fine. PoS is moving many coins with no PoW.

2. Good Point.

versprichnix

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1) no comment, I have not enough skills to estimate the implications

2) as soon as price would tenfold, the problems would come back. But perhaps you can bind the PoW difficulty to the PoS difficulty in some way.

3) possible

Tranz

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Activity: 1540

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May the force bit with you.

Hey Everyone.

Would like a quick feedback/vote.

Right now the difficulty for HBN is very low. Not many miners these days. And those who are mining are taking advantage via flash mining. They wait until no blocks have been mined for hours and the diff drifts lower and lower, then they turn on 100+ mh/s and crush though block after block after block. This either causes large Regorgs or wallet delays.

So I would like to do something for this. Here are a few options.

1) Turn off PoW of completely.
2) Set minimum PoW Difficulty to say 2 or 3 or higher.
3) Only allow 1 PoW block for every 5 PoS blocks.

I am leaning towards 1 or 3. Likely 1. Would like to implement something before July is over. So going to move quickly..

What say ye?

FlungSpun

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Quote from: Tranz on July 06, 2017, 10:53:40 AM

Quote from: FlungSpun on July 05, 2017, 04:02:36 AM

Hey all,

Can someone remind me the limits on stake combine / split please.

Is it still limited to 1/500th of your wallet balance?
or is there a hard cap also?

my extended staking info is saying split : 20 combine 40

I'm thinking more in the 100s-1000s

There is are hard cap in if you set from startup switch or the .conf file. You can try the RPC command splitthreshold/combinethreshold.

I'll look to update these in the next release as well.

Sounds like that would be it.
I'll check when I get the chance
Cheers

Tranz

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Quote from: FlungSpun on July 05, 2017, 04:02:36 AM

Hey all,

Can someone remind me the limits on stake combine / split please.

Is it still limited to 1/500th of your wallet balance?
or is there a hard cap also?

my extended staking info is saying split : 20 combine 40

I'm thinking more in the 100s-1000s

There is are hard cap in if you set from startup switch or the .conf file. You can try the RPC command splitthreshold/combinethreshold.

I'll look to update these in the next release as well.

FlungSpun

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Activity: 414

Merit: 251

Hey all,

Can someone remind me the limits on stake combine / split please.

Is it still limited to 1/500th of your wallet balance?
or is there a hard cap also?

my extended staking info is saying split : 20 combine 40

I'm thinking more in the 100s-1000s

Tranz

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May the force bit with you.

Quote from: z0rr0 on July 04, 2017, 02:09:06 PM

Quote from: Tranz on July 02, 2017, 09:51:54 AM

Quote from: richardmtruitt on July 02, 2017, 04:34:10 AM

What's the current status of this coin? Is my understanding correct that the dev left and has returned?

<-------- Me

Hey Tranz, just for the info - links to explorers (HBN PressTab.pw Explorer, HBN on Cryptopia Explorer) at http://hobonickels.info/ seems broken.

Sounds good. I will give the Website the once over here in the next week or so. Currently working on the wallet for a few hours today.

z0rr0

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Quote from: Tranz on July 02, 2017, 09:51:54 AM

Quote from: richardmtruitt on July 02, 2017, 04:34:10 AM

What's the current status of this coin? Is my understanding correct that the dev left and has returned?

<-------- Me

Hey Tranz, just for the info - links to explorers (HBN PressTab.pw Explorer, HBN on Cryptopia Explorer) at http://hobonickels.info/ seems broken.

Tranz

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Quote from: richardmtruitt on July 02, 2017, 04:34:10 AM

What's the current status of this coin? Is my understanding correct that the dev left and has returned?

<-------- Me

Never left, just wasn't active. I am extremely busy with work, family, and athletics. I am here now and working on version version 1.6 due out in late 2017 early 2018.

richardmtruitt

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What's the current status of this coin? Is my understanding correct that the dev left and has returned?

Tranz

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Quote from: panpine on June 28, 2017, 07:55:31 AM

where can I get 1.5.2 and what does that fix?

Have to compile. It is not released, and never will be. All version up to 1.6 are going to be self service and use at your own risk only. They are development and potentially buggy. Only the pulls to the offical repo will have full releases.

panpine

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where can I get 1.5.2 and what does that fix?

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Quote from: versprichnix on June 28, 2017, 03:48:34 AM

Quote from: PeterTheGrape on June 26, 2017, 01:01:07 PM

Quote from: versprichnix on June 26, 2017, 01:48:21 AM

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In my economiy all is balanced, so if there is one gainer, there is one who has to loose. Indead a basic income leads to inflation, and the persons who have the most fiat stakes are the loosers, independant of where they hide their money in this world. This is one goal of a basic income.

The 2 dollars is only a first target, my suggestions always can start at Null. This low amount is choosen a way, that really poor people could pay a school for their child, instead letting them work.

Everything is balanced, everything has to add up to zero at the end of the day, but the art, the kung fu, is in looking at as many variables as possible. It isn't just money but a lot of other things involved. Money, fiat, crypto is not the top of the pyramid, it is one of many things and if you only try to solve the money side then you are going to cause the opposite of a solution in some other side.

I solve nothing! With the exception of my own small world.

I never said this type of basic income could be the only one! A lot of people in cryptoworld are claiming this indead. In my opinion there never can be one solution alone, in this case it must fail.

I'm watching for your "solution", if it is egocentric it will collapse, and natur will become rich again. All is balanced!

Expanse dev has a BUI token in dev... Lucrii Tokens. My understanding is if you declare yourself on the world ID network they have also built, Lucrii Tokens mint for you every month.

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Quote from: PeterTheGrape on June 26, 2017, 01:01:07 PM

Quote from: versprichnix on June 26, 2017, 01:48:21 AM

...

In my economiy all is balanced, so if there is one gainer, there is one who has to loose. Indead a basic income leads to inflation, and the persons who have the most fiat stakes are the loosers, independant of where they hide their money in this world. This is one goal of a basic income.

The 2 dollars is only a first target, my suggestions always can start at Null. This low amount is choosen a way, that really poor people could pay a school for their child, instead letting them work.

Everything is balanced, everything has to add up to zero at the end of the day, but the art, the kung fu, is in looking at as many variables as possible. It isn't just money but a lot of other things involved. Money, fiat, crypto is not the top of the pyramid, it is one of many things and if you only try to solve the money side then you are going to cause the opposite of a solution in some other side.

I solve nothing! With the exception of my own small world.

I never said this type of basic income could be the only one! A lot of people in cryptoworld are claiming this indead. In my opinion there never can be one solution alone, in this case it must fail.

I'm watching for your "solution", if it is egocentric it will collapse, and natur will become rich again. All is balanced!

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