Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive - page 71. (Read 478903 times)

Version 0.7.5 Will not work, the rest are all compatible.

Well I didn't want to make it to handy, you know, like Google "hobonickels nodes list" and clicking 5th link down.

but you're welcome ....

Most links parse or whatever automatically, but if they have a symbol like # etc you have to make it an url

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/#!network without formatting

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/#!network with formatting

Anyway fairly lot of nodes, probably people staking

One person on 0.7.5/
Thirty eight people on 1.5.0/
Sixty people on 1.5.1/
Two people on 1.5.2/

Not sure how important it is to run the latest version of wallet

add
1.5.2 doesn't seem to be released yet, https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/releases , so most people are not far behind

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/#!network

Having trouble connecting, anyone got a nodes list? Not finding one handy. Thanks

There is the problem

Everything is balanced, everything has to add up to zero at the end of the day, but the art, the kung fu, is in looking at as many variables as possible. It isn't just money but a lot of other things involved. Money, fiat, crypto is not the top of the pyramid, it is one of many things and if you only try to solve the money side then you are going to cause the opposite of a solution in some other side.

In my economiy all is balanced, so if there is one gainer, there is one who has to loose. Indead a basic income leads to inflation, and the persons who have the most fiat stakes are the loosers, independant of where they hide their money in this world. This is one goal of a basic income.

The 2 dollars is only a first target, my suggestions always can start at Null. This low amount is choosen a way, that really poor people could pay a school for their child, instead letting them work.

As for exchanges, soon there will be a lot of new ones like https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anncrowdsale-ended-nvo-decentralized-exchange-multiwallet-1917456 and pay to play will be finished unless they provide dancing girls and pretzals.

There are a few issues involved. Talking strictly about distribution of the bottom rung of wealth... there are tens of thousands of children in poor countries that die for lack of $1. If you gave each of them $1 per day it would prevent many of those deaths, if there were also stores where they could buy what $1 buys.

But if you give each of those kids or their families $100 a day then they are going to buy not only food and electrolytes but also radios, watches, phones etc. Eventually they will look for ways to make $300 a day, so they can buy better stuff. So there will be space for entrepreneurs etc, that's how an economy can start.

One important side issue is that when a person, including a policy maker, is deciding on a course of action, he or she often uses the issues of the day to rationalize some more primitive motive. So you have a lot of people with power who, at a deep level, are thinking "Dang there are a lot of those brown/black/yellow people, have to reduce their numbers"... but you filter that thought through the days politics and they end up saying "the feasibility of economic administration of subsistence... etc etc" so that in effect they feel sorry about so many people dying of poverty, and they wish they could do more, but they have a dinner date and have to get dressed. That works, as long as you're not the hungry one.

Isn't this just like changing the one dollar bill to a million dollar bill. So everyone can be millionaires?  I'm pretty sure in your situation, if you gave $2 to every person, no matter if it is crypto, gold, or dollars, inflation would simply make everything in the world $2 more expensive, putting everyone back at the same spot they were before you gave them it.

Who do you think caused the great bubble! I'm still in accumulation mode. Got any to sell? 

Tranz is Back at the great bubble...hahaha
hurry up Tranz...You don't have much time to dump Your bag.

1) A currency first has to "produce" something, before it can be distributed as a new store of value, otherwise you are trying to redistribute somebody else's 'wealth', and will be in a weak defensive position. The best beginning of this step, to my knowledge, would be something like a crypto that requires human interaction. So called "capcha" coins are a poor misguided sidestep in that direction. It would be an easy thing to do though. The only coin that has made serious progress in that area, as far as I know, is huntercoin.

2) xrp etc are not currencies that focus on distribution models, aside from airdrops etc. xrp is a corporate currency, not more not less. It has nothing whatsoever to do with any distribution balance.

3) Giving the exact same amount to every individual makes no sense either. Aside from the distribution side there is also services/supply. Should an individual who needs expensive medicine have to do without everything except that medicine, while another person gets easy money to spend all their time stoned? Nothing wrong with getting stoned if that's what a person wants, but it should not be subsidized the same way as survival.

4) the basic point you make is accurate. If a currency could distribute $2 in useable currency to every person, it would improve things more than it would worsen them, for most people. The main bottleneck has to do with things like education. you could look at coins like humaniq, that claim to have that ambition. Even then there are lots of small issues. If you distribute by thumbprint to the uneducated then there will be a market for severed thumbs in some areas.

5) Another consideration is the carrying capacity of the planet. Crypto does have the potential to quickly extend lifespans and similar things, but even today we still have policymakers who make large decisions based on demographic considerations, if you want to call it that, or 'population control'. Until there is more effort to extend available real estate to outer space there will be many people who will sabotage efforts to create a level playing field for less wealthy places.

I know about this "sensible" solutions, XRP and other coins are representatives of them. My world is VERY easy and "unsensible", I'm serious. The same weekly amount to every individual all over the world. For the first time coins with a value of two dollars a day are enought.

Hey sorry about that.  The pulls into my repo are not always 100%. I am going to be adding A LOT of stuff to it over the next few months. Some of it may not work right away. So please keep that mind.  Please be sure to create good copies for both the wallet and other vital file before upgrading any of the executable.

After full regression testing on test and main net I will pull into the main repo.

FYI I plan to implement headers soon into the index so we can run non-staking, lite weight Electrum and Android type wallets.  So after that is done, another re-index will be needed. That's point I planned to move to main repo. And then work on other things like hard forks.

That said I do appreciate the beta testing, please let me know if you have issues.

It is a problem of society that in cities, in order to survive, a person needs something as unnatural as 'money'.

Anyway your question is probably the biggest one in economics, even before crypto.

But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.

Thank you all for your answers!

08:35:54: combinethreshold 5000
08:35:58 { "amount" : 4478.07000000 }
08:36:12: splitthreshold 5000
08:36:14: { "amount" : 2239.29000000 }

Try in console, amount depend on how much coin you have in total, more coin, higher value can be used

Hello! Does the HBN wallet have a "splitthreshold" function? If so, did I set the parameters correctly in the HoboNickels.conf file:

splitthreshold=4000
combinethreshold=1000

 My blocks continue to split into small blocks.

Or maybe it must be "setsplitthreshold", like on a console command?