Topic: Hodler, you motherfucker. - page 9. (Read 20972 times)
Lol, I kept laughing while reading this didn’t your friends tell you that you’re meant to invest what you can afford to lose? Why would you invest all you have in cryptocurrency, didn’t you read about it to know the risks involved? Google is right there and you should have made some research to know exactly how it works. It is not free money and here is no guarantee you will make money, you either go broke or succeed.
This is the biggest problem that many of the younger or less inexperienced traders need to understand. Certain downfalls of the bitcoin and/or crypto market are not the end of the world, and long term investors will most likely not result in a long term financial loss for them.
S good knowledge of the crypto environment helps, but theres no reason to start panicking, as that's really the only reason BTC and other crpyto has dropped so much in the last few months/weeks. Smart trading is usually the best method of gaining capita as it takes advantages of boths ups and downs of the market. Though panic selling is what kills the market, as well as the community as a whole.
S good knowledge of the crypto environment helps, but theres no reason to start panicking, as that's really the only reason BTC and other crpyto has dropped so much in the last few months/weeks. Smart trading is usually the best method of gaining capita as it takes advantages of boths ups and downs of the market. Though panic selling is what kills the market, as well as the community as a whole.
Good job!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
we need courage in trading, large capital in trading does not determine success, there needs to be a detailed study of price movements, because with sufficient knowledge can make us avoid big losses. there should be a price benchmark for us, where we can get a clear picture of potential increases in the future. Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
You have said the truth, because the Bitcoin Hodl and Hodl crypto are not good for trade, they may think too positively and make them regret, the decline in bitcoin prices is proof that the Hodl is not good for trading strategies, it is better to do daily trading and if busy with real work can hire a trading bot and I say thank you for reminding me and the other traders.
It all started so innocently. Why not give crypto a try? All the guys at work are talking about it. Shitcoins, ICOs, Tethers, Smart Contracts. You wanted in. It was the Next Big Thing, you fucking idiot.
So you put a little money in the crypto market in 2018. How do you feel today? Portfolio in the red. You don’t even want to look at it. Hodl, they all said. It will come back after the FUD, they all said. And now you’re numb, and depressed, and can’t even afford a bottle of Jack to drown out the pain.
You’ve learned (hopefully) that hodling is bad...
So you put a little money in the crypto market in 2018. How do you feel today? Portfolio in the red. You don’t even want to look at it. Hodl, they all said. It will come back after the FUD, they all said. And now you’re numb, and depressed, and can’t even afford a bottle of Jack to drown out the pain.
You’ve learned (hopefully) that hodling is bad...
You write this from the perspective of investors who invest in 2018, or in late 2017. No doubt that those people feel bad, or perhaps deceived/scamed, but they just invest in bad time. If some of them invest for long-term (5-10 years) they are good today, altogether does not matter that markets are in red or it will be in next years. Only people who panic and sell can now complain about the lost money.
On the other hand there are those smart hodlers who knows to read some basic of the crypto market (accumulation, pump, correction) and profit from that.
Let's take a example of person who own 1 BTC in December 2017 and that person buy that BTC for 1000$. If that person sell then he/she will made very nice profit, but even if option was to hold until today the loss still does not exist.
Now we know that the smartest move would be that 1BTC is sold for 20 000$, take 5000$ for some good things and 15 000$ for future investment. Few days ago you could buy 5 BTC for that money and wait for next bull run.
if you think about holding at this time. you will dead soon
What happens when you are at lose in a game? Imagine you bought bitcoin when the price was at $15,000 and now the fall to $4,000 will you sell? Get this, the hodlers today are the potential millionaires tomorrow and not traders like us. I have been into this game of trade and at the same time a hodler but these two are good and my favorite is HODL, so i prefer to HODL than to trade at risk. Trade Bot signals are now attempt by the developers to get more innocent traders to trade for their benefits. 
Its really possible to make money not just in bull market in a bear season but it might takes some experience which you obviously have by learning how to play with the market. As for those HOLDer's I guess that's their strategy and I don't see anything wrong with that. If what fits your goal, as others don't have the time to trade and would rather just purchase and look for the long haul. There's also one thread around, wherein he/she was able to get in before the price exploded and the one thing common with you guys is that you both do your homework and didn't listen or ask for financial advises from people around this forum.
Good job!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
Trading is better for those who can trade it, but for those who can not do it? they will not make it. And about hold and not to hold, it is about your style and strategy.
technically, when you are jumping into something in your real life. You would not expect something in a single day, right? Holding is like running a business, at first you are going to see what will happen to your business and then make a goal based on it.
in the end, you can not force something that is out of their way. people have a different kind of strategy and mindset, they might do not really care about what is going on with our current price right now because they put something that is basically nothing to them and would expect it to go zero at any moment.
when you have something bigger other than your trade right now, and you can live with it. why would you care about something that is nothing for you?
"Holding is like running a business".... that is going to fail miserably.
That's complete crap! If you run a business you need the mindset of a trader.
I’m trying to find the words to tell you that you are stupid without really saying it. Can you suggest some videos on this topic too?
Ignorance is an issue that might be solved. Your stupidity can’t be solved, you need to cap with it.
if you think about holding at this time. you will dead soon
Good job!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
Trading is better for those who can trade it, but for those who can not do it? they will not make it. And about hold and not to hold, it is about your style and strategy.
technically, when you are jumping into something in your real life. You would not expect something in a single day, right? Holding is like running a business, at first you are going to see what will happen to your business and then make a goal based on it.
in the end, you can not force something that is out of their way. people have a different kind of strategy and mindset, they might do not really care about what is going on with our current price right now because they put something that is basically nothing to them and would expect it to go zero at any moment.
when you have something bigger other than your trade right now, and you can live with it. why would you care about something that is nothing for you?
"Holding is like running a business".... that is going to fail miserably.
That's complete crap! If you run a business you need the mindset of a trader.
Apply the same strategy during different market and you might be on loss. Only because your trading strategy in specyfic market situation gives you better return than holder strategy (no strategy in my opinion too, or dumpass strategy) dasn't makes you better than others. Same strategy in 2017 would give you worst returns than hodlers strategy.
2017 was hodlers year. 2018 was traders year.
And now you came here with your 10% return in 2018 making fun out of hodlers who made 1000% in 2017.
Dont get me wrong. I also think that hodling is the riskiest and worst strategy (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39881422) but i also don't think that your super simple 10 min daily strategy is the best and optimal one only because it gives 10% per year in current market.
BTW 10% during whole year made by last 3 trades from 10% loss is not the reason to be proud off.
2017 was hodlers year. 2018 was traders year.
And now you came here with your 10% return in 2018 making fun out of hodlers who made 1000% in 2017.
Dont get me wrong. I also think that hodling is the riskiest and worst strategy (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39881422) but i also don't think that your super simple 10 min daily strategy is the best and optimal one only because it gives 10% per year in current market.
BTW 10% during whole year made by last 3 trades from 10% loss is not the reason to be proud off.
Look, I invested money into crypto before 2017 and I can tell you that if you apply the same principles (upside-down) during a bullish period you could have scored more than the 1000% in 2017.
Moreover, mine was a provocation to tell that nobody should hold and pray. You need to allocate time to your investment so you can achieve much better returns.
Apply the same strategy during different market and you might be on loss. Only because your trading strategy in specyfic market situation gives you better return than holder strategy (no strategy in my opinion too, or dumpass strategy) dasn't makes you better than others. Same strategy in 2017 would give you worst returns than hodlers strategy.
2017 was hodlers year. 2018 was traders year.
And now you came here with your 10% return in 2018 making fun out of hodlers who made 1000% in 2017.
Dont get me wrong. I also think that hodling is the riskiest and worst strategy (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39881422) but i also don't think that your super simple 10 min daily strategy is the best and optimal one only because it gives 10% per year in current market.
BTW 10% during whole year made by last 3 trades from 10% loss is not the reason to be proud off.
2017 was hodlers year. 2018 was traders year.
And now you came here with your 10% return in 2018 making fun out of hodlers who made 1000% in 2017.
Dont get me wrong. I also think that hodling is the riskiest and worst strategy (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39881422) but i also don't think that your super simple 10 min daily strategy is the best and optimal one only because it gives 10% per year in current market.
BTW 10% during whole year made by last 3 trades from 10% loss is not the reason to be proud off.
Good job!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
It's not just trading, it's about circulating the coins within the ecosystem. That can be achieved through trading as well as through merchant adoption. HODLers are simply hoarding the coins into their coffers which are not helping anyone. If we want to see growth of crypto, we should be spending instead of hoarding it. The more it circulates within the ecosystem, the more prominent it becomes to create a value for it.
So the correct word is not just "Trading", instead it should be "circulating!"
I do agree with you. Trading and Circulating can have the same meaning.
This is like one hard, throat paining, bitter truth most people in crypto including myself don't want to hear. But hey, you just had to tell it not minding whose ox is gored. My major take away from the painfully lengthy post was CAPITAL PRESERVATION , which can hardly be achieved with hodling. Capitals have been drained by the bears market and many in the name of hodling have lost everything to the market that's designed to take from you, except you're wise enough to take from it.
You're now on the right path, and it is very good to admit errors.
Errare humanum est, perseverare autem diabolicum
Good job!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
Yeah I think trading is much better than holding , the important thing is the capital , You have started with 1 bitcoin and that's the point , The main capital could decrease the risk of trading if it is much enough , if not you need to look forward to bigger percentages and that could cause more risks , I hope you success in that trading way!
It's not just trading, it's about circulating the coins within the ecosystem. That can be achieved through trading as well as through merchant adoption. HODLers are simply hoarding the coins into their coffers which are not helping anyone. If we want to see growth of crypto, we should be spending instead of hoarding it. The more it circulates within the ecosystem, the more prominent it becomes to create a value for it.
So the correct word is not just "Trading", instead it should be "circulating!"
This is like one hard, throat paining, bitter truth most people in crypto including myself don't want to hear. But hey, you just had to tell it not minding whose ox is gored. My major take away from the painfully lengthy post was CAPITAL PRESERVATION , which can hardly be achieved with hodling. Capitals have been drained by the bears market and many in the name of hodling have lost everything to the market that's designed to take from you, except you're wise enough to take from it.
Trust me, I’m an economist.
Ehhh....I don't believe you on that one unless you prove it.Fair enough. How shall I demonstrate it?
Its invariably what works for one, be it trading or hodling,not one of them comes out well every single time, and in my opinion there is no need picking one above the other
It's down to what every individual can handle in terms of skills,capital,time frame etc
Some dudes have earned a lot from hodling you know,they sure wouldn't subscribe to your info,others have seen their investments go to scratch,thats what trading is all about,i cant pick a winning formula if you ask me
It's down to what every individual can handle in terms of skills,capital,time frame etc
Some dudes have earned a lot from hodling you know,they sure wouldn't subscribe to your info,others have seen their investments go to scratch,thats what trading is all about,i cant pick a winning formula if you ask me
Trust me, I’m an economist.
Ehhh....I don't believe you on that one unless you prove it.Some holders look stupid now, depending when they bought in. The ones from 2010 will look pretty damn smart; those who bought in at $20k will look like suckers. And if bitcoin were to spike to $10,000 tomorrow, that would change the perspective quite a bit.
Having said that, buy-and-hold with crypto has never sat well with me like it does with other investments, like stocks that pay good dividends and when said dividends can be reinvested. The whole crypto market is more like a casino than it is a stock exchange, and there does seem to be a hell of a lot of emotion involved with crypto traders--they hold on well past the point of ever hoping to make a profit in markets like this.
But you never know. If we start seeing some upward momentum, hodling might in retrospect turn out to be the smart thing to do. Could happen, you know.
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