Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? - page 20.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 08:44:25 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on December 19, 2015, 08:29:18 PM

I have to say this: I consider myself an average Joe Blow type of guy, and I don't even know how I got into bitcoin. It was just something I read about on the internet and thought was cool. Bitcoin has value, and bitcoin is the cryptocurrency people are going to use if they get into this. Both of the coins you have this poll for I've heard of but know absolutely nothing about. And I don't care to know anything about them. Altcoins are destined to be ultimately abandoned. There's no practical use for most of them, and Dash and Monero don't (in my opinion) have a future. They are tools of speculation and will never be adopted by people like me.

Weird that i have friends who get mad that they have to buy BTC to get Monero--of course these friends have little interest in cryptocurrencies in general, but see the value of online privacy. Still unsure why anyone wants to put their business on a public blockchain, but to each his own.

Yes, and my guess is that we have quite different sets of friends and that yours are far more computer-savvy than mine. Like I said, common folk have yet to adopt bitcoin, much less any of the other altcoins. I happen to like DOGE, and I've said this on other threads. There's no rationale for this, I just like it--but there's nowhere to spend it! It just makes a good tipping instrument, and there are some strange things for sale using it over on Reddit, but that's about it. The uses for DOGE and the other coins are pretty limited. Gambling, dark markets, and speculation.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on December 19, 2015, 08:29:18 PM

I have to say this: I consider myself an average Joe Blow type of guy, and I don't even know how I got into bitcoin. It was just something I read about on the internet and thought was cool. Bitcoin has value, and bitcoin is the cryptocurrency people are going to use if they get into this. Both of the coins you have this poll for I've heard of but know absolutely nothing about. And I don't care to know anything about them. Altcoins are destined to be ultimately abandoned. There's no practical use for most of them, and Dash and Monero don't (in my opinion) have a future. They are tools of speculation and will never be adopted by people like me.

You're right about altcoins that have the same generic code as Bitcoin, but you have to consider that these coins inherent a totally different code, which is cryptonote. Coins that just adopt the same concept of bitcoins are destined to fail, but since the coins we are talking about are genetically different in every way possible with ring signatures and what not, makes it a contender to actually market to more privacy oriented people who want to really remain anonymous during their transactions. I feel that there is always a need amongst bitcoiners to remain completely anonymous. I mean hell, that's how Bitcoin became famous anyways... Through the use of dark web sites like Silk Road.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on December 19, 2015, 08:29:18 PM

I have to say this: I consider myself an average Joe Blow type of guy, and I don't even know how I got into bitcoin. It was just something I read about on the internet and thought was cool. Bitcoin has value, and bitcoin is the cryptocurrency people are going to use if they get into this. Both of the coins you have this poll for I've heard of but know absolutely nothing about. And I don't care to know anything about them. Altcoins are destined to be ultimately abandoned. There's no practical use for most of them, and Dash and Monero don't (in my opinion) have a future. They are tools of speculation and will never be adopted by people like me.

Weird that i have friends who get mad that they have to buy BTC to get Monero--of course these friends have little interest in cryptocurrencies in general, but see the value of online privacy. Still unsure why anyone wants to put their business on a public blockchain, but to each his own.

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I have to say this: I consider myself an average Joe Blow type of guy, and I don't even know how I got into bitcoin. It was just something I read about on the internet and thought was cool. Bitcoin has value, and bitcoin is the cryptocurrency people are going to use if they get into this. Both of the coins you have this poll for I've heard of but know absolutely nothing about. And I don't care to know anything about them. Altcoins are destined to be ultimately abandoned. There's no practical use for most of them, and Dash and Monero don't (in my opinion) have a future. They are tools of speculation and will never be adopted by people like me.

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Quote from: deliveryman on December 19, 2015, 12:32:23 PM

Shadowcash -> both

tech wise that is.

Damn, that threw a spanner in the works. I was on the cusp, THE CUSP, of deciding which one is better monero or dash when this deliveryman guy throws in a bombshell: 'Shadowcash'. Now i know monero and dash are quite hard to decide between, but shadowcash? Is shadowcash better than monero AND dash? Can anyone from either the monero community, the dash community or the shadowcash community please enlighten me?

If you want to learn more about ShadowCash and how it compares to Monero and Dash this is a good place to start. https://doc.shadowproject.io/#shadow-and-others. There are some very strong similarities with Monero. The critical difference is that ShadowCash is proof of stake while Monero is proof of work. Personally I believe that derivatives markets will make proof of stake coins fundamentally insecure. This is because the coin network has no way of determining if the stakeholder has shorted the coin on the derivatives market. If the stakeholder has a net short position then it would be in the stakeholder's interest to vote her stake against the best interests of the coin. This fundamentally undermines the whole premise of proof of stake as a way to secure a coin network. Dash is by the way vulnerable to this kind of attack since there is no way for the Dash network to determine if the holder of a masternode "secured" by 1000 Dash does not have a 2000 Dash short position somewhere else for a net 1000 Dash short position. It is actually even more vulnerable than most proof of stake coins since there is a built in incentive to set up masternodes using Dash borrowed from those who have less than 1000 Dash.

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Quote from: stoat on December 19, 2015, 02:36:08 PM

Quote from: deliveryman on December 19, 2015, 12:32:23 PM

Shadowcash -> both

tech wise that is.

Damn, that threw a spanner in the works. I was on the cusp, THE CUSP, of deciding which one is better monero or dash when this deliveryman guy throws in a bombshell: 'Shadowcash'. Now i know monero and dash are quite hard to decide between, but shadowcash? Is shadowcash better than monero AND dash? Can anyone from either the monero community, the dash community or the shadowcash community please enlighten me?

i'm starting to like you .. i dont know why, but i do Roll Eyes

i guess we have to wait for deliveryman to deliver us more info, i just hope he doesn't get stuck in traffic or something.

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Quote from: deliveryman on December 19, 2015, 12:32:23 PM

Shadowcash -> both

tech wise that is.

Damn, that threw a spanner in the works. I was on the cusp, THE CUSP, of deciding which one is better monero or dash when this deliveryman guy throws in a bombshell: 'Shadowcash'. Now i know monero and dash are quite hard to decide between, but shadowcash? Is shadowcash better than monero AND dash? Can anyone from either the monero community, the dash community or the shadowcash community please enlighten me?

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Quote from: deliveryman on December 19, 2015, 12:32:23 PM

Shadowcash -> both

tech wise that is.

okay, i'm giving you a shot on some free publicity... what is Shadowcash exactly ? How far is it in development ?
How fast is it ? How decentralised is it ? Is it focussed on more then just anonymity ?

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Shadowcash -> both

tech wise that is.

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Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 12:20:49 PM

Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 12:14:35 PM

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 12:11:19 PM

Listening to fud about Dash Evolution and all Dash's achievements bringing Dash somehow to its knees
is like listening to the Maya's predicting the end of the world.. and we all know how that ended.

Sorry, Dash is not equivalent to the world ending, maybe for you and your portfolio (but nice effort to skirt the criticisms).

thanks, to be honest it wasn't that difficult to skip the criticisms when the person doing the criticisms obviously has not been
studying the code itself and just proved that to the whole forum watching

He responded to Evan's post and Evan has yet to post a response, so the claiming victory is deceitful or fails to comprehend how dominantly TPTB_need_war dispensed with Evan's clumsy explanation (Don't worry, I'll post it again on the next page in case your tit for tat non-statements bury it on this page).

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Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 12:14:35 PM

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 12:11:19 PM

Listening to fud about Dash Evolution and all Dash's achievements bringing Dash somehow to its knees
is like listening to the Maya's predicting the end of the world.. and we all know how that ended.

Sorry, Dash is not equivalent to the world ending, maybe for you and your portfolio (but nice effort to skirt the criticisms).

thanks, to be honest it wasn't that difficult to skip the criticisms when the person doing the criticisms obviously has not been
studying the code itself and just proved that to the whole forum watching

generalizethis

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Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 12:11:19 PM

Listening to fud about Dash Evolution and all Dash's achievements bringing Dash somehow to its knees
is like listening to the Maya's predicting the end of the world.. and we all know how that ended.

Sorry, Dash is not equivalent to the world ending, maybe for you and your portfolio (but nice effort to skirt the criticisms).

qwizzie

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Listening to fud about Dash Evolution and all Dash's achievements bringing Dash somehow to its knees
is like listening to the Maya's predicting the end of the world.. and we all know how that ended Roll Eyes

generalizethis

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Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 11:45:13 AM

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 11:34:11 AM

Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 11:31:19 AM

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 11:25:04 AM

Quote from: stoat on December 19, 2015, 09:06:40 AM

Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good. But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash. If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :

edit : damn, i forgot about the Dash Android app, Dash iPhone app, Dash Electrum release and the Dash SPV wallet thats in development right now .....

Wow, you guys really don't get it. TPTB_need_war just outlined how your instant transactions and full node network are the flaw that will bring dash to its knees and you don't even wait for a new page to flash a checklist touting them as innovations. This is mindless advertising (IE propaganda)--just keep repeating the lie until some suckers our duped into believing it.

problem is that we heard that one too many times .. hell, i even bought knee protecters just in case and still we are standing... standing strong if i may add.

And you have some proof of TPTB_needs_war's expert opinions aren't correct outside of the argument that you haven't needed knee pads yet? I'd like you to take his critcisms point by point (or better yet Evan--AFAIK he still has yet to answer how he's going to solve the X11 flaw). Smoke hopium on your own time and on your own dime.

Yep, this is pretty much proof to me that TPTB doesn't really understand what the dev team has in mind with Dash Evolution and appearently has not been reading up on Dash locking transactions system : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13291423
So no need for knee protectors now.... if there ever was.

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I think that humanity can find the money for both platform, the fundamental differences they have, but innovation for both cases! and cost them $100, but not less than!

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Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 11:34:11 AM

Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 11:31:19 AM

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 11:25:04 AM

Quote from: stoat on December 19, 2015, 09:06:40 AM

Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good. But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash. If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :

edit : damn, i forgot about the Dash Android app, Dash iPhone app, Dash Electrum release and the Dash SPV wallet thats in development right now .....

Wow, you guys really don't get it. TPTB_need_war just outlined how your instant transactions and full node network are the flaw that will bring dash to its knees and you don't even wait for a new page to flash a checklist touting them as innovations. This is mindless advertising (IE propaganda)--just keep repeating the lie until some suckers our duped into believing it.

problem is that we heard that one too many times .. hell, i even bought knee protecters just in case and still we are standing... standing strong if i may add.

And you have some proof of TPTB_needs_war's expert opinions aren't correct outside of the argument that you haven't needed knee pads yet? I'd like you to take his critcisms point by point (or better yet Evan--AFAIK he still has yet to answer how he's going to solve the X11 flaw). Smoke hopium on your own time and on your own dime.

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Quote from: generalizethis on December 19, 2015, 11:31:19 AM

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 11:25:04 AM

Quote from: stoat on December 19, 2015, 09:06:40 AM

Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good. But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash. If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :

edit : damn, i forgot about the Dash Android app, Dash iPhone app, Dash Electrum release and the Dash SPV wallet thats in development right now .....

Wow, you guys really don't get it. TPTB_need_war just outlined how your instant transactions and full node network are the flaw that will bring dash to its knees and you don't even wait for a new page to flash a checklist touting them as innovations. This is mindless advertising (IE propaganda)--just keep repeating the lie until some suckers our duped into believing it.

problem is that we heard that one too many times .. hell, i even bought knee protectors just in case and still we are standing... standing strong if i may add.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: qwizzie on December 19, 2015, 11:25:04 AM

Quote from: stoat on December 19, 2015, 09:06:40 AM

Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good. But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash. If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :

Wow, you guys really don't get it. TPTB_need_war just outlined how your instant transactions and full node network are the flaw that will bring dash to its knees and you don't even wait for a new page to flash a checklist touting them as innovations. This is mindless advertising (IE propaganda)--just keep repeating the lie until some suckers our duped into believing it.

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