Topic: Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash? - page 21. (Read 35954 times)

Its a difficult topic for sure, but maybe this will help :



edit : damn, i forgot about the Dash Android app, Dash iPhone app, Dash Electrum release and the Dash SPV wallet thats in development right now .....  

these 2 are dumpcoins festival.
You should be careful xD

Sorry not to be rude but I don't know who are you? o.o did you create a crytpo coin before? what's the name of it?

I really looked at Dash.org and looked at https://forum.getmonero.org/...I lurked like probably many did here. I am a Newbie to you it's fine really does not bother me at all.

I also found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68nC5BQfuuE...I think Monero programmers and community should be instead of saying why is Dashcoin bad be like here is why Monero is better? also they need to stop taking profit from a gambling site and work harder for more releases and more updates which like I have been told in Monero speculation thread hasn't been for a year or so. There are like 3 or 4 "not sure" dashcoin developers yet they did so much o.O if that instamined made them work so hard why the 7 or 8 Monero developers did not work harder if they do a side business from a gambling site they own and they even win there with big amounts such as 21,000 or so? and this is without the crippled miner with & the donation I just don't get it.

There two coins both have many supporters. We will see which one is better in 10 years time.

All due respect, but are you brain damaged? TPTB_need_war has responded to you specifically, yet you continue posting the same thing on each page.

The only good technology in Dash was inherited from Bitoin, period. There is zero good technology developed by their failure of a dev Evan Duffield. it's all just hype and fluff to justify his enormous scam instamine and the daily masternode payments that go along with that (to the tune of $500 USD / day based on Evan's own admission - which he's probably underreporting)

Hope that's clear enough.

Im still not sure. Ive heard all the arguments in favour of monero, it seems very promising, and ive heard all the arguments in favour of dash, the technology seems very good.  But i still cant make my mind up. It seems that there is almost no one that can really decide which one is better monero or dash.  If only there was someone from either the dash community or the monero community who could please finally explain to me which one is better. Monero or dash.

Quote from upthread:


Perhaps the Dash folks should bet the Monero folks they can't attack the coin. And put up enough of a bet to make it worthwhile.

The Finney attack that I described can probably pulled off without needing to purchase a lot of masternodes. I am not sure which the attack will cause: a double-spend or a fork, because would require studying the code for Dash to discern the exact protocol enforced in that case.

I don't think anyone has the incentive to buy up 50% of the masternodes to do the other attacks (actually the attacks could be achieved somewhat infrequently with a much smaller % of the masternodes, e.g. with 10% of the masternodes every 666th UTXO could be jammed and every 10,000th UTXO could be spent as many times as desired). No one could gain enough from shorting on Dash to recoup their costs. The point is if Dash did become liquid and valuable, then the incentive might be there. The larger point is that if Dash were really adopted by millions of users, it wouldn't get very far. Maybe one could argue it would be fixed very quickly if adoption did start growing that fast. You are free to speculate on that possibility.

Remember these market caps for crypto coins are likely mirage. Insiders buying coins from themselves to pump up the price and the volume.

The next person who claims that Dash has superior tech than Cryptonote is going to make my head explode. Lolz.

The people (person?) who write(s) Dash's white papers can't even do high school level math.

I'm not saying that one of these coins will be the final coin for anonimity... But if I had to choose one for now I would definitely choose monero... Will there be something better on the market in the future, very probably yes, but right now, not that I know of... At least nog yet with practical usability as in technology that works (within limitations, yes)... If there is something better that works already, please tell me!

best regards

But instantX is broken and it can not be fixed. I don't understand why people keep claiming this as a feature, which is actually a flaw that can bring Dash to its knees.

But if you meant what I wrote, then it would have actually been a very insightful rebuttal. And thus I wrote, "mea culpa".

Free markets should be freedom-to-choose without some authority overlording on everyone's point-of-view. I hope Smoothie learns this. Pedantic regurgitation of some ancient history about some alleged unethical outcome of a contract should end up in a court-of-law it is worthwhile to pursue. What relevance is that that it justifies burying this thread in a long-winded attack against one person's past dealings on this forum in this thread about Dash vs. Monero. As if that one person is a significant factor in the Dash vs. Monero issue. Cripes we will argue about arguing, then argue about arguing about arguing. We will bury ourselves so deep in meta-hate that we will never work on actually reaching the millions of users out there in the real world.

That is why these hate threads are really not fruitful.

Let each go speculate in what they want.

If you all want to create debate threads where anything goes, then some of us have suggested to please title them as such and please try to not make the entire subforum filled with redundant hate/debate threads.

Look, the way I see it monero has supreme anonimity and privacy features built in on the protocol level, it's just how cryptonote works (although not as perfectly as TPTB would want it to be...). Dash doesn't have these features, so they're trying to build them on top of it via masternodes who essentially do the mixing of the coins to anonimize... This brings certain problems...

so technology-wise monero seems te be better... and then you could also take into account that Dash had a significant premine (almost 10% of the coinsupply), had several rebrandings, the masternode-system is a form of centralisation and creates a dash-aristocracy, is not peer reviewed, X11 had lots of critics etc...
Dash does seem to be better at marketing itself...

if still not convinced I suggest you take a few days to do research for yourself...

best regards,

So is your point that gambling with a smallish speculation that my alleged flaw can be fixed or isn't enough of an issue to stop others from gambling is sufficient reason to invest in a flawed coin?

Actually that is economically rational behavior. Go forth. Mea culpa.

A design that can be trivially double-spent and forked to oblivion is not enough clarity for you  

Are people this intentionally stoopid or am I missing something? He says he read all the arguments, so I assume he is not lying. Perhaps he didn't bother to read all my details arguments that I linked to, or since he can't understand them he ignores them?

How can they ignore such claims from experts? Could someone please enlighten me  

Do you even comprehend what a fork does to a coin, and especially what 10,000 forks does to a coin with 10,000 mining nodes? Hint: each mining node becomes its own lonesome fork and everyone can spend their coins 10,000 times. And no one has any clue of what the value of anything is. Total chaos and devastation.

Don't you think it would best if you put your entire life savings into that Forkathon coin now.

Im still not convinced either way which is better monero or dash.  Ive weighed up all the arguments in this thread and Im still on the fence.  Can anyone, ANYONE please finally explain why monero is better than dash or dash is better than monero???!!

What good does it do for us experts to explain as I did upthread that Dash's InstantX subjects the coin to double-spending and forking, and yet n00bs like this one below will completely ignore my (and monsterer's) expertise and continue to spread lies like the following.


Newbie please explain to me how you can completely ignore my expertise and then repeat a lie as you did? Are you a sockpuppet account that is intentionally lying?

Do you think I don't know what I am writing about? Do you have any clue how much expertise there  is between myself, monsterer and smooth?

We try to help you all understand, but you ignore us and repeat lies.  

Seems like it best to just you fools lose your money. Go ahead. I don't care what you do.

I am not aligned with XMR nor DRK. I never owned either one, and probably never will.

That describes the owner of every premined coin.....

OK let me rephrase that that since you want to debate semantics. I admit that was poorly worded and therefore made the statement wrong. No major PoS coins have been successfully attacked. NVC is a scam coin that no one cares about, it getting attacked due to a low amount of stakeholders staking is similar to all of the PoW coins that have been attacked because of a low amount of miners mining them. It does not mean anything as to the security of PoS coins, plus there are many variants that are more or less secure. I posit that the most secure PoS implementation is yet to come, even still none of the major PoS coins have been successfully attacked.