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Quote from: Docnaster on May 19, 2023, 04:15:09 PM

AI might not be compatible very much in gambling right now because of emotions and other related feelings.
But it is a technology that has come to dominate, in as much as you can think it with AI, you can also achieve it. If such implementation is allowed now, there will be many flaws in the horse race because the AI will not be able to capture everything.
But I bet you in the nearest future, everything is going to be AI ways. So we should always think how to go Ai way even in our betting processes.

Actually it is true that gambling is not the best place for AI because gambling still depends on luck even though AI only helps predict or whatever it is still not right for me.
There is a more deserving place for AI as it is used to answer customer service.
I myself am still a little doubtful about anything that is given by AI even though AI has been developed more powerfully for gambling but I can't really believe it.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on May 18, 2023, 05:35:19 AM

Quote from: mak013 on May 16, 2023, 11:05:46 PM

Of course we can`t predict 100% even if we have all information. If it would be so, we needn`t all these competitions - we can just predict the result and don`t waste time. But i think that we can call the AI the next step of the statistics. Using the statistics we can make an analyze of some event. The AI can make the same just faster. And without human factor.

Using AI is not a bad idea, but we must know that it is not in every aspect of gambling that this technology should be applicable for us, there are scenarios that we will need the human thinking a d reasonings to effect a decision, everything is not to be keft in the hands of this technology without us taking proper and necessary actions before we may not be able ro anymore, though i believe in the many advantages the AI technology brought in so far, thing which should have taken time could be achieved in more lesser time.

Everybody can choose when to use AI. Today everybody can get access to chatgpt or some other AI. The problem is to get data that the AI has to analyze. But if you have this information, you can analyze it by yourself. It will take more time but during analyze you can find some additional information that AI willn`t use due to filters, it can become an advantage.

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Quote from: Docnaster on May 19, 2023, 04:15:09 PM

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Quote from: paxmao on May 18, 2023, 05:45:15 PM

You guys in general are correct in noting that if every gambler's prediction were correct, they would all be rich. Gambling is inherently uncertain, and while statistical analysis and AI can provide insights and predictions based on historical data, they cannot guarantee accurate predictions every time. The only exception is those games in which calculating plays an important role.

Yes, as much as AI is really scary, but it's not for gambling though as it is based on prediction and there are factors that the AI can't get into it's system to decide who are going to win in a certain match.

So it's good to see AI right now, but it has it's limitation as I have said. And it will take away what we enjoy in let's say sports betting. Because we put our bets on the club or teams that we support and then we watch the game itself. So if our betting is base on AI then it will take away the most important aspect of sports and that is us, the fans.

AI might not be compatible very much in gambling right now because of emotions and other related feelings.
But it is a technology that has come to dominate, in as much as you can think it with AI, you can also achieve it. If such implementation is allowed now, there will be many flaws in the horse race because the AI will not be able to capture everything.
But I bet you in the nearest future, everything is going to be AI ways. So we should always think how to go Ai way even in our betting processes.

When you bet on a real soccer or basketball game, I doubt that AI will have an edge over human beings. The one thing that AI can do is to calculate faster and more precise than human beings, but there is only so much to be calculated during a game. Assuming that someone watches the game and sees that a particular player is bound to see a red card when another foul happens, will AI incorporate that the same way a human being would do?

There are too many variables during a game that can't be calculated, but human beings develop a certain feeling for game situations with increasing experience.

Regarding the teams we put our bets on, I don't know. If a team that I like is inferior, why would I have to bet on that team? I can still bet on the opponent if it makes sense in that situation even if I don't like the other team. AI is focused on numbers, but I doubt that it will soon be able to incorporate specific game dynamics that a normal human being can observe.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on May 18, 2023, 07:00:05 PM

Quote from: paxmao on May 18, 2023, 05:45:15 PM

You guys in general are correct in noting that if every gambler's prediction were correct, they would all be rich. Gambling is inherently uncertain, and while statistical analysis and AI can provide insights and predictions based on historical data, they cannot guarantee accurate predictions every time. The only exception is those games in which calculating plays an important role.

Yes, as much as AI is really scary, but it's not for gambling though as it is based on prediction and there are factors that the AI can't get into it's system to decide who are going to win in a certain match.

So it's good to see AI right now, but it has it's limitation as I have said. And it will take away what we enjoy in let's say sports betting. Because we put our bets on the club or teams that we support and then we watch the game itself. So if our betting is base on AI then it will take away the most important aspect of sports and that is us, the fans.

AI might not be compatible very much in gambling right now because of emotions and other related feelings.
But it is a technology that has come to dominate, in as much as you can think it with AI, you can also achieve it. If such implementation is allowed now, there will be many flaws in the horse race because the AI will not be able to capture everything.
But I bet you in the nearest future, everything is going to be AI ways. So we should always think how to go Ai way even in our betting processes.

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Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

that would be great when we could all do sports betting like horse racing but in the metaverse. but what concerns me is the network problem that each region has is different, how can development make it look fair when users from third-world countries fight developed countries that have a good level of internet speed?

for that, imo requires a long enough study to be able to make the concept of gambling in the metaverse fair and orderly, so that the comfort of each user in various countries runs in balance.

I don't think internet connections have anything to do with that since players won't be running the horses but they will probably just be raising them and making them level up or something and make sure they are fit and good enough for the races and then others will bet on the horses that will be participating in those races.

The bettors will have to choose from the horses participating in particular races based on their own experience and the past performances of the horses since bettors would know if they are experienced in the game which provides them an advantage.

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AI horses, you mean this?

Kiddings aside, I feel like if you're going to bet on AI horses instead of real ones, might as well not wait and waste your time and just bet/play RNG race games like the one I posted above. It's way easier that way and you won't have to worry bout the ethics and all that, cause apparently it still a pretty sensitive topic as of the moment. Plus if it's AI, there's probably ways to hack and make it so that a certain player gains an unfair advantage over you or others, which is not a good thing genrally. So yeah, save yourself the trouble and either bet on real horses or just stick with RNG-type ones.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 18, 2023, 05:45:15 PM

You guys in general are correct in noting that if every gambler's prediction were correct, they would all be rich. Gambling is inherently uncertain, and while statistical analysis and AI can provide insights and predictions based on historical data, they cannot guarantee accurate predictions every time. The only exception is those games in which calculating plays an important role.

Yes, as much as AI is really scary, but it's not for gambling though as it is based on prediction and there are factors that the AI can't get into it's system to decide who are going to win in a certain match.

So it's good to see AI right now, but it has it's limitation as I have said. And it will take away what we enjoy in let's say sports betting. Because we put our bets on the club or teams that we support and then we watch the game itself. So if our betting is base on AI then it will take away the most important aspect of sports and that is us, the fans.

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You guys in general are correct in noting that if every gambler's prediction were correct, they would all be rich. Gambling is inherently uncertain, and while statistical analysis and AI can provide insights and predictions based on historical data, they cannot guarantee accurate predictions every time. The only exception is those games in which calculating plays an important role.

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Quote from: mak013 on May 16, 2023, 11:05:46 PM

Of course we can`t predict 100% even if we have all information. If it would be so, we needn`t all these competitions - we can just predict the result and don`t waste time. But i think that we can call the AI the next step of the statistics. Using the statistics we can make an analyze of some event. The AI can make the same just faster. And without human factor.

Using AI is not a bad idea, but we must know that it is not in every aspect of gambling that this technology should be applicable for us, there are scenarios that we will need the human thinking a d reasonings to effect a decision, everything is not to be keft in the hands of this technology without us taking proper and necessary actions before we may not be able ro anymore, though i believe in the many advantages the AI technology brought in so far, thing which should have taken time could be achieved in more lesser time.

With the way this AI technology hype is going, is like these artificial intelligence can actually solve all human problems which is probably a Big No and come to think of it, these AI were actually human creation with human intellect put in them so I see them as way to disguise your problems in having an easy way out and it would definitely wouldn't be so effective when it comes to the gambling industry because if the gambling companies find out the advantage of AI usage to their system I think they would probably just tighten their system so as to let the house always come out victorious in terms of the win/lose percentage rate because they are actually running a business.

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Quote from: mak013 on May 16, 2023, 11:05:46 PM

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Quote from: mak013 on May 15, 2023, 05:45:34 AM

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If it were true that every gambler's prediction would be correct, then all gamblers would be rich, so that's not what really happens. Because most players want to win in a casino, they sometimes think that AI is the key to what they want.

But as you said that AI does not have the ability to predict the things that happen in gambling because AI is only stuck in the data program that is inputted to it, so what is really written in AI is the only thing that will be given. nothing too much and nothing too little.

Of course we can`t predict 100% even if we have all information. If it would be so, we needn`t all these competitions - we can just predict the result and don`t waste time. But i think that we can call the AI the next step of the statistics. Using the statistics we can make an analyze of some event. The AI can make the same just faster. And without human factor.

I believe, Al can help those of us who need it. in particular, for those who need fast and accurate information. Al's current existence, cannot be separated from the pros and cons. So far, Al has often been the subject of discussion and debate in the community. but what is certain, this artificial intelligence technology has always been the subject of hot discussion, especially those that relate it to gambling and predictions.

We agree with what you guys said, that Al could be involved in the gambling. some members may have tried to experiment with making predictions, some others use it to find all the information needed. for sure, everything is done to make it easier for us even though in this case it is gambling. but what is certain, whatever it is, this intelligence technology is not that effective for us to be involved in gambling. let alone to predict, especially sports or football fights. because in sports/football, it's not just talking about funds and statistics. that is why, no predictions are completely accurate. either from Al's side, or predictions based on the results of our own analysis. every result, will be determined when the fight / match is held.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 17, 2023, 10:40:31 AM

Can you make bets on horses that are AI vs making bets on real horses? I see a new gambling project that focuses on horse racing only and I am surprised that those horses are not real live horses, I went deep doing research and it kinda looks like players will be the ones fine-tuning their horses 🐎 for better performance and go ahead to head with other players.

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

that would be great when we could all do sports betting like horse racing but in the metaverse. but what concerns me is the network problem that each region has is different, how can development make it look fair when users from third-world countries fight developed countries that have a good level of internet speed?

for that, imo requires a long enough study to be able to make the concept of gambling in the metaverse fair and orderly, so that the comfort of each user in various countries runs in balance.

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Quote from: Porfirii on May 05, 2023, 06:12:42 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on April 17, 2023, 10:40:31 AM

Do you think that gambling have a place with the metaverse in the future? I had a dream about being able to gamble online with people that aren't living close to me, we meet in the metaverse and it looks real, I know that sometimes when you think positively about something it is possible to dream about it.

I am well aware of all the hype around AI lately, but I don't personally find the AI + gambling combination attractive. Of course, the general public may like it, but this is certainly not for me.

About gambling and metaverse, as a semi-hardcore user of Second Life in the past I can tell you that it would be indeed a really good idea. Some plinko machines lying here and there were very successful back then in that metaverse, and the concept of a tavern where you can see football matches, for example, with people that aren't living close to you, and also bet, seems great to me.

These are the genius that technology and scope have, many focus on looking how AI can get a casino, but it does not focus that AI can and rise to other things that bring more advance, such as medicine, in surgical interversines , but that is already something different, the casinos are those who show things as they are, the owners of casinos are not Dumb, they go to Abuse the best of all the Assurances in terms of AI, to avoid hackeos and possible bad times for the Casinos and Casino players who have their money saved there,this is fundamental.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on May 17, 2023, 04:06:26 PM

Quote from: SirLancelot on May 17, 2023, 03:31:33 PM

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Thou with the available data given for use by the A.I model, I still doubt it's credibility to provide a 100% sport prediction, whether either virtual or live streaming event, because what A.I does is work on already existing data source, which in most causes could be outdated depending on the host provider.
But in regards to the A.I horse race which O.P made mentioned, predicting such will still be hard even thou it's A.I generated, because I'm sure that must have been programme in no direct sequence of code, making it impossible to predict it's next movement, just as we have in our current Soccer virtual games hosted by sportbookers.

You've made a very astute point in noting that AI frequently utilises preexisting data. Because of this, it may be unable to accurately anticipate certain occurrences, especially those with a high degree of uncertainty, such as sporting events. But here's a curveball to throw at you: AI can process and learn from massive volumes of data in a fraction of the time it would take a human.

The AI in a virtual soccer game or horse race doesn't necessarily know what it will do next; instead, it simulates several outcomes based on the algorithm it was given. In principle, these simulations should be utterly unpredictable and not adhere to any kind of pattern.

But here's the catch, and a fascinating matter for debate: how 'random' can an AI actually be, given that it functions based on pre-defined algorithms?

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Quote from: mak013 on May 16, 2023, 11:05:46 PM

Of course we can`t predict 100% even if we have all information. If it would be so, we needn`t all these competitions - we can just predict the result and don`t waste time. But i think that we can call the AI the next step of the statistics. Using the statistics we can make an analyze of some event. The AI can make the same just faster. And without human factor.

Using AI is not a bad idea, but we must know that it is not in every aspect of gambling that this technology should be applicable for us, there are scenarios that we will need the human thinking a d reasonings to effect a decision, everything is not to be keft in the hands of this technology without us taking proper and necessary actions before we may not be able ro anymore, though i believe in the many advantages the AI technology brought in so far, thing which should have taken time could be achieved in more lesser time.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on May 17, 2023, 04:06:26 PM

Quote from: SirLancelot on May 17, 2023, 03:31:33 PM

Quote from: South Park on May 16, 2023, 01:19:44 PM

I have no idea where you can get that data, however there are websites out there which sell information about the stock markets which can be used to backtest your strategy or to create a trading bot, so I imagine there should be websites as well which could sell that data for sport events, data which you can later use to feed to an AI, however this can be a complex process as most algorithms will need the data to be preprocessed before the AI can understand it and make a model out of it.

The websites that sell that data for sports events which you are saying can be used for an AI model as its feed data, do those websites provide you with an algorithm that will automatically keep updating the data? If not, then it's useless since the data will be outdated too soon and the AI model will not be able to provide accurate results again.

As far as I know from what I've read, GPT-4 has access to the internet and provides responses using the up-to-date data available on the internet but I can't say if that is actually the case or if it can be used for predictions since I didn't use it myself.

Thou with the available data given for use by the A.I model, I still doubt it's credibility to provide a 100% sport prediction, whether either virtual or live streaming event, because what A.I does is work on already existing data source, which in most causes could be outdated depending on the host provider.
But in regards to the A.I horse race which O.P made mentioned, predicting such will still be hard even thou it's A.I generated, because I'm sure that must have been programme in no direct sequence of code, making it impossible to predict it's next movement, just as we have in our current Soccer virtual games hosted by sportbookers.

You are right though, though there are some sports that the Ai could maybe easily predict correctly, but I personally do not think soccer is one of such sports games, even the real horse race can't be easily predicted correctly by Ai, reason being that this are very dynamic games, alot of factors can come into play in the field of play which can play a huge role in the outcome of the game, such factors are mostly what the Ai can't predict and this is where the failure would come from...
So really, Ai can't be completely depended on for correct predictions to various type of matches.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on May 17, 2023, 03:31:33 PM

Quote from: South Park on May 16, 2023, 01:19:44 PM

I have no idea where you can get that data, however there are websites out there which sell information about the stock markets which can be used to backtest your strategy or to create a trading bot, so I imagine there should be websites as well which could sell that data for sport events, data which you can later use to feed to an AI, however this can be a complex process as most algorithms will need the data to be preprocessed before the AI can understand it and make a model out of it.

The websites that sell that data for sports events which you are saying can be used for an AI model as its feed data, do those websites provide you with an algorithm that will automatically keep updating the data? If not, then it's useless since the data will be outdated too soon and the AI model will not be able to provide accurate results again.

As far as I know from what I've read, GPT-4 has access to the internet and provides responses using the up-to-date data available on the internet but I can't say if that is actually the case or if it can be used for predictions since I didn't use it myself.

Thou with the available data given for use by the A.I model, I still doubt it's credibility to provide a 100% sport prediction, whether either virtual or live streaming event, because what A.I does is work on already existing data source, which in most causes could be outdated depending on the host provider.
But in regards to the A.I horse race which O.P made mentioned, predicting such will still be hard even thou it's A.I generated, because I'm sure that must have been programme in no direct sequence of code, making it impossible to predict it's next movement, just as we have in our current Soccer virtual games hosted by sportbookers.

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Quote from: South Park on May 16, 2023, 01:19:44 PM

Quote from: xSkylarx on May 12, 2023, 09:04:40 PM

Until May 23? that's impossible or it is April 23? which is also outdated. I am also a self learned programmer too which now I've got an idea how you deal it . For sure it was agent GPT your friend are using but the problem is how do I get the data. Also regarding the data it is really best to get a realtime data if you are using ChatGPT AI because they dont have access on internet they are constantly feed with information so such predictions is difficult if there are problems occurred on that day

I have no idea where you can get that data, however there are websites out there which sell information about the stock markets which can be used to backtest your strategy or to create a trading bot, so I imagine there should be websites as well which could sell that data for sport events, data which you can later use to feed to an AI, however this can be a complex process as most algorithms will need the data to be preprocessed before the AI can understand it and make a model out of it.

The websites that sell that data for sports events which you are saying can be used for an AI model as its feed data, do those websites provide you with an algorithm that will automatically keep updating the data? If not, then it's useless since the data will be outdated too soon and the AI model will not be able to provide accurate results again.

As far as I know from what I've read, GPT-4 has access to the internet and provides responses using the up-to-date data available on the internet but I can't say if that is actually the case or if it can be used for predictions since I didn't use it myself.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on May 15, 2023, 05:08:25 PM

Quote from: mak013 on May 15, 2023, 05:45:34 AM

I think that it is something about it. The bookies have this information and it is possible to get it i think. Until the AI can`t give stable predictions it would be easy enough to get such information. But if the gamblers begin to win regularly and it would be easy to get access to such predictions - the bookies will stop to share such information and we`ll need to get someone or some service to get it.

If it were true that every gambler's prediction would be correct, then all gamblers would be rich, so that's not what really happens. Because most players want to win in a casino, they sometimes think that AI is the key to what they want.

But as you said that AI does not have the ability to predict the things that happen in gambling because AI is only stuck in the data program that is inputted to it, so what is really written in AI is the only thing that will be given. nothing too much and nothing too little.

Of course we can`t predict 100% even if we have all information. If it would be so, we needn`t all these competitions - we can just predict the result and don`t waste time. But i think that we can call the AI the next step of the statistics. Using the statistics we can make an analyze of some event. The AI can make the same just faster. And without human factor.

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Quote from: danadc on May 16, 2023, 01:29:34 PM

Quote from: South Park on May 16, 2023, 01:19:44 PM

Quote from: xSkylarx on May 12, 2023, 09:04:40 PM

Until May 23? that's impossible or it is April 23? which is also outdated. I am also a self learned programmer too which now I've got an idea how you deal it . For sure it was agent GPT your friend are using but the problem is how do I get the data. Also regarding the data it is really best to get a realtime data if you are using ChatGPT AI because they dont have access on internet they are constantly feed with information so such predictions is difficult if there are problems occurred on that day

I have no idea where you can get that data, however there are websites out there which sell information about the stock markets which can be used to backtest your strategy or to create a trading bot, so I imagine there should be websites as well which could sell that data for sport events, data which you can later use to feed to an AI, however this can be a complex process as most algorithms will need the data to be preprocessed before the AI can understand it and make a model out of it.

I have always thought about the way they extract data to put it in speculative markets and with the use of AI tools, since everything related to AI is so fashionable now for anything, you have to see that with gambling and especially with sports betting predictions must be made, but at the level of an AI programmer I don't know how efficient it is that they can run a good test to see how accurate it is, I doubt that it can be quite accurate because this is hardly It is dndao and those who have a lot of money are the ones who will have access to this kind of information.

We all know how addictive gambling is when chasing losses, and such patterns are expected to be mitigated and never encouraged. Many AI systems are incorporated into today's gambling sites as ways for the system to detect any patterns or addictive gambling. Players at risk of falling into risky gambling patterns usually lack access to data and steal information. AI comes and gives a new push to online gambling sites to make gambling more enjoyable AI has helped robots perform procedures that the best could not master.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 15, 2023, 05:19:46 PM

This looks like another type of gambling to me because this is the first time I am hearing about this. AI or no AI gamblers are still going to enjoy themselves so we need to make sure that we have fund while we are gambling so that we are not going gamble in a way that would make us lose because we want to start another new kind of bets.

I want you to know that artificial intelligence kind of gambling is there gambling that is deal with programming so I don't believe on it accuracy because sometimes it fails but many people does not understand it that way and then when you check in the forum you see that from hundred percentage out of it it may be 20% why is using artificial intelligence for gambling

That's because AI hasn't been able to develop and still needs improvement in its programming code. After all, we still prefer to bet on what we like and not rely on anything unless it is about getting information to help us in our analysis. So if you want to see the performance of AI that can be used for gambling, it looks like you still have to wait for a few more years or until there is a notification from each developer about the AI project they are working on. And hope that the next notification will provide good news about the development of AI.

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