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July 14, 2016, 06:57:20 AM
#50
just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfjrMcXPHM ( indonesian sub but english dub )
Earth was being created on 4,500,000,000 years ago and all unverse was being created 14,500,000,000 years ago, I was so amaze by this fact
Well I agree with you man since you have a source I also have my own source. According to an earth science book used by grade 11 here in the Philippines. Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. This estimate is based on the age of meteorites found on earth I mean in the meteorites is the oldest ones found here on earth.
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July 11, 2016, 10:24:56 PM
#49
just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfjrMcXPHM ( indonesian sub but english dub )
Earth was being created on 4,500,000,000 years ago and all unverse was being created 14,500,000,000 years ago, I was so amaze by this fact

That's about right.

It's not so hard to know the number of billions of years, one pretty easy way is to look at our Moon.  It is a perfect historical record of events, without any of the atmospheric processes, weathering, water action and so forth.

... and only about 10,000 years of moon dust depth.    Cool
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July 11, 2016, 07:49:51 PM
#48
just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfjrMcXPHM ( indonesian sub but english dub )
Earth was being created on 4,500,000,000 years ago and all unverse was being created 14,500,000,000 years ago, I was so amaze by this fact

That's about right.

It's not so hard to know the number of billions of years, one pretty easy way is to look at our Moon.  It is a perfect historical record of events, without any of the atmospheric processes, weathering, water action and so forth.
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July 11, 2016, 05:51:24 PM
#47
And knowing this information helps because??

Why is this even in the poltics section.. it should be in towards off-topic.

I suppose the age of Earth, like most scientific constants (not technically constant, I know, don't shoot me down) such as the speed of light, is subject to political manipulation.

Contest the groupthink!
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July 11, 2016, 05:39:52 PM
#46
And knowing this information helps because??

Why is this even in the poltics section.. it should be in towards off-topic.
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July 11, 2016, 04:21:48 PM
#45
Quite the opposite. BADecker likes science.

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BADlogic HATES science because it casts a nasty huge bad shadow of doubt over the bible. Doubt begrets more doubt which weakens faith. Weakened faith equals weakened dreams of heaven.
The religious elite have dangled that heaven carrot in front of him for a long long time.
It's his.
He wants it.
He's going to get it whatever it takes.
He's owed it.
No-one is taking that away from him, certainly not that pesky old science.

Which is why he's at war with science. One he will lose.


On the other hand BADlogic LOVES pseudoscience. Cannot get enough of it. Fantastic. Pseudoscience supports the bible. Doubt vanishes, faith is restored, heaven back on the radar.

Pseudoscience GOOD, science BAD.

legendary
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July 11, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
#44
It's exactly 2 years older than it was on this date two years ago.

Of course that is a ridiculous answer. There is no way to ever know EXACTLY how old the earth is.
                   
There are only educated guesses based on observations and assumptions.

Not only that, the farthest we can go back with any reasonable accuracy is about 4,500 years.

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July 11, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
#43
It's exactly 2 years older than it was on this date two years ago.

Of course that is a ridiculous answer. There is no way to ever know EXACTLY how old the earth is.
                   
There are only educated guesses based on observations and assumptions.
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July 11, 2016, 10:37:34 AM
#42
just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QfjrMcXPHM ( indonesian sub but english dub )
Earth was being created on 4,500,000,000 years ago and all unverse was being created 14,500,000,000 years ago, I was so amaze by this fact
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July 11, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
#41
It's most likely somewhere between 5,000 years and 5,000,000,000 years
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July 11, 2016, 10:05:46 AM
#40
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

Are you interesting in religious or scientific answer?
If you literally believe Bible, answer is about 6 000 years.
If you believe science, answer is about 7 billion years.
You can research about it much more on Internet, specially on Wikipedia.




I go with science, i don't believe in fairy tales.

If you went with science, you would believe God... because real science (not fairytale science) and the Bible complement and uphold each other.

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Why do people think,that the creation of Earth in Bible in true?
It is such a bullshit for me,that i just laugh if I hear about it.
Just believe science,there are proofs at leasts -,-
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July 11, 2016, 09:20:36 AM
#39
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

Are you interesting in religious or scientific answer?
If you literally believe Bible, answer is about 6 000 years.
If you believe science, answer is about 7 billion years.
You can research about it much more on Internet, specially on Wikipedia.




I go with science, i don't believe in fairy tales.

If you went with science, you would believe God... because real science (not fairytale science) and the Bible complement and uphold each other.

Cool
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 09:19:25 AM
#38
The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time.
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That look when you're not sure if someone is trolling or not...
Badecker is a long term troller on this Politics and society section. You should expect that all his claims came from non-progressing religion while he oppose science which is probably working and been prove to give a progress in our life.

Quite the opposite. BADecker likes science. This is why he is continually showing things like the fact that people believing science theory to be fact when it is not, is believing lies. BADecker is trying to uphold the good name of science while showing that liars are using fake science to attempt to control people for their own, political will.

You are probably one of those people who wants to believe the so-called science lies that scientists and politicians and the media promote.

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July 11, 2016, 06:06:10 AM
#37
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

Are you interesting in religious or scientific answer?
If you literally believe Bible, answer is about 6 000 years.
If you believe science, answer is about 7 billion years.
You can research about it much more on Internet, specially on Wikipedia.




I go with science, i don't believe in fairy tales.
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July 11, 2016, 05:56:56 AM
#36
The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time.
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That look when you're not sure if someone is trolling or not...
Badecker is a long term troller on this Politics and society section. You should expect that all his claims came from non-progressing religion while he oppose science which is probably working and been prove to give a progress in our life.
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 05:25:55 AM
#35
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years or only 6000 years old as the Bible teaches

i think Scientists answer are more relevant

Amazes me how the dubious bible god of Christian mythology got things so very wrong.

Trouble is it casts doubt on other parts of the book. Strong doubt.
You would of thought someone would of edited out all the bible errors by now and created the New New Testament, though probably why that never happened is instead of a weighty tome, we'd be left with a feeble pamphlet. And that's being optimistic.
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July 11, 2016, 05:04:38 AM
#34
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years or only 6000 years old as the Bible teaches

i think Scientists answer are more relevant
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 03:49:48 AM
#33
I dunno how old is Earth now and im not interested that much. What is more interesting for me is how long will Earth last?. I believe others is more interested in this rather than knowng how old earth is.

The sun will exhaust it's fuel supply eventually, swell and vaporise planet earth. We've got a few billion years left yet.
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July 11, 2016, 03:42:28 AM
#32
I dunno how old is Earth now and im not interested that much. What is more interesting for me is how long will Earth last?. I believe others is more interested in this rather than knowng how old earth is.
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July 10, 2016, 06:06:55 PM
#31
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

Consensus among scientists from different fields of studies says that the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years.
But it's not that I "think", you cannot "guess" the age of the world. You need evidence. it's the result of measures done by hundreds of scientists, with hundreds of experiments. And they are all consistent with each other (minus the margin of error stated before).

The scientific model is based on the idea that certain things in the universe have been going on throughout all time, similarly as they are going on today. Take carbon dating, for example.

Carbon dating is based on the idea that the C-14 content on earth, in the atmosphere, has been relatively the same for at least hundreds of thousands of years. But nobody knows that this is the fact. If the amount of C-14 forming, has been increasing very slowly over the years - so slowly that nobody could see or measure the increase -  there is the potential that there was little to no C-14 back beyond 5,000 years ago. This would mean that carbon dating numbers are extremely far off... by as much as millions or billions of years. And this kind of mistaken thinking is the same kind that permeates virtually all of the scientific thinking on the dating subject.

The furthest science can go back with any accuracy at all is about 4,500 years. And even this is shaky. It is based on dating pottery and buildings from the distant past. Comparing the writings of ancient peoples and nations from beyond 3,000 years ago shows discrepancies in the writings that indicate that we don't know how to read dead languages correctly, or else the people of those days wrote historical fiction like we write science fiction today.

On the other hand, Moses lived and wrote 3,500 to 3,600 years ago. He had been a prince of Egypt, with access to whatever writings this great nation had back then. We can trust his writings because of the stubbornness of ancient Israel. This stubbornness is born out in the writings of the scribes of Israel. Bible books from the Dead Sea scrolls of over 2,000 years ago, are essentially the same as they are in our modern Bibles.

This means that we can place faith in the things that Moses wrote for us in the first 5 books of the Bible, way more than we can place faith in the writings of today's scientists. In fact, today's scientists tell us right in their writings that they are actually guessing as to the age of things.

The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time.

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You are saying like carbon is the only dating technique. There are many kinds of dating techniques available.  Like Potasium argon dating that can be use to date up to billions of years.

Depends. If potassium argon provides strong evidence parts of the bible are complete nonsense it must then be completely disregarded, no questions asked. On the other hand if potassium argon backed up the bible it would regarded as a gift from god and 100% correct.

The young earthling lot are a strange bunch.



All of these kinds of dating concepts have the same flaw. You have to know what things were like in the past to date them. And the only way you can know is to go back in time, or to find some ancient scientifically advanced race that kept scientific records like we do.

The farthest we can go back with any kind of certainty at all is about 4,500 years. Why. Because that is when the Great Flood covered the earth. Things were different before that time. At best, we simply don't know.

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As mentioned earlier, heat dissipation is the biggest thorn in your side anyway so arguing the accuracy of dating methods doesn't help your cause.

I don't know too much about the great flood. Wasn't that myth debunked years ago?



When you don't know the amount of heat in the first place, heat dissipation doesn't have any meaning. When you are unaware of the various kinds of heat sinks that may have existed in the past, there is no way to tell about heat dissipation. However, one thing is certain. Entropy.

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The evidence that the earth has been bombarded with meteors in the past is simply too great to pretend they didn't happen. Mathematicians can quite accurately calculate the heat output from a given size and speed of meteor smashing into earth.
A few of the bigger ones would of literally boiled off the earths oceans.

That unthinkable amount of heat would take hundreds of thousands of years to dissipate.


Nobody is saying that meteors don't happen. But you are not taking into account the electric cosmos, the water that used to protect the earth, and the fact that most of the water of the upper atmosphere of the past boiled off the heat.

There are lots of things to be considered. Science often looks at them point by point rather than considering the whole.

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