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legendary
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July 27, 2016, 07:18:17 AM
They didnt used the c-14 method.

To find out the age of earth they determined the amount of PB which was created due the radio active decay of Uranium in meteorites that felt down on earth.

Meteorites that didnt change since 4.5 billion years except for the radio active decay of the chemical elements.

The meteorites were meteors before they changed. Then they changed and became meteorites as they fell to earth. Nobody knows what they were while they were still meteors. Why not? Because nobody was up there to analyze them enough to know. It's all ASSUMPTION. If there is any real meteor science, there is extremely little of it.

The thing to do would be to go out there in a space plane, grab a meteor, analyze it as best possible, attach super-heat-resistant monitors to it, and dump it onto the earth at speeds and vectors that it would have had if it had hit earth on its own. Then we might have some scientific knowledge about meteors... at least one of them.

And that is just the beginning.

The popular scientific age of the earth is all assumptions.

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legendary
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July 27, 2016, 07:06:26 AM
They didnt used the c-14 method.

To find out the age of earth they determined the amount of PB which was created due the radio active decay of Uranium in meteorites that felt down on earth.

Meteorites that didnt change since 4.5 billion years except for the radio active decay of the chemical elements.
legendary
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July 27, 2016, 06:03:13 AM
Every scientific thing that suggests the age of the earth beyond about 5,000 years ago, is based on the assumption that the geological and other activity of the earth has always been going on as it does today, and that all the changes are gradual ones.

The idea of a great flood covering the earth - like the Great Flood of Noah's day - is recorded in the traditions, the writings, and the ancient drawings (rock carvings) of peoples and nations around the world. The writings of the earth and the Flood in the Bible, suggest a way that the C-14 (used in carbon dating) may not have been in existence on earth before the Great Flood.

If there were no pre-Flood C-14 on earth, carbon dating is completely and gigantically false. There are flaws like this in all the dating methods of the universe, including the cosmic ones. Scientists simply ASSUME things that they have no knowledge about. See this video for a clear understanding of what I am saying here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TerTgDEgUE... and this website that has the explanation of the video written down - https://steemit.com/science/@morpheustitania/the-science-delusion-banned-ted-talk.

Science ASSUMES a whole lot of things that they don't know. Then the universities, the media, and even some of the scientists tell you that it is truth WHEN THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW. When you believe it, you become part of their religion.

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July 27, 2016, 01:55:34 AM
The Earth is around 4.54 billion years old, as per Space.com website. I think, this is only a scientific guess. As science progress, there are several other factors to consider. Rock formations changes from time to time. I do not think humans can still calculate the age of the Earth. It will be endless. Nobody will ever know the real answer to this question.
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July 20, 2016, 08:50:39 AM
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think nobody can answer this question correctly. Scientists use Radiometric dating and they believe they are pretty accurate in their calculations, but what if the speed of the radioactive decay was different say 5 thousand years ago than it is now?
I too think that scientist really predict the age of the earth. everything can not be explained. We may never truly know the age of the earth.

I think you were going to say "scientist can't really predict the age of the earth" and by predict you meant determine. Yes, they can't. They say the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years, but this assertion is based on radiometric age dating which might be not accurate.
It is not accurate but it is close to that and they determine in using carbon-dating which is proven useful and reliable for scientific basis. This dating also can draw a line on our pre-historic pattern and even that happen long years ago.
legendary
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July 20, 2016, 08:07:30 AM
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
Appeal to ignorance and putting therefore it is god. Remove your head out of your ass to avoid thinking this poorly. If you think science confuse you then don't use the things that scientist made and discovered, go back in stone age life.

Nobody has to talk about God to see that the scientists who calculate the age of the earth constantly use limiting words as disclaimers so that they can protect themselves from libel. This is the way they tell us, themselves, that they don't know that what they are telling us is factual.

Cool
Scientist may not tell the absolute truth but they can tell part of it and it means to us.  I believe in scientist because unlike religion claiming certaing things, they claim a certain fact by observing and gathering data. It means it was scrutinized before presented as fact.

For example. Scientists can tell the truth of the half-life of C-14. Because of this, if the C-14 creation rate in the atmosphere was always the same as it is now, scientists could accurately date things.

The point is, scientists don't know if the C-14 creation rate was always the same. In fact, they don't know if there was any C-14 created in the atmosphere at all beyond about 5,000 years ago. So, we don't need all the examples of carbon dating inaccuracies that abound right now. We can see that nobody knows the truth using scientific means.

Cool

EDIT: If this was all, we could say that science simply made a mistake. But the fact that they don't tell you that they don't know, shows that they are deceptive, and shouldn't be believed without personal examination of EVERYTHING that they say.
It could be a foundation to base things, even though they might be wrong then what's wrong with that? As long as they are changeable it will never be a big deal. If they see something that is a mistake they can easily remove that data and look for another, scientist are doing trial and error until they get things that may suit things right.

I easily agree with this in many scientists. But not in others.


A scientist does some scientific studies, and tells someone what he found.

Then other scientists, the media, the governments and even book-writers take his information and say all kinds of "stuff" about it.

Then, average people read or hear about this information from:
1. The scientist who does the original studies;
2. Other scientists, the media, the governments and even book-writers;
3. And from their ignorant friends and neighbors.

We get different stories from all over the place. So we need to screw our heads on, and take a good look at the stories to see how they match logic and the whole of science.

The point isn't that scientists make mistakes at times, and other times they don't. The point isn't that science is changeable in some thing, and maybe not in other things.

The point is that anybody who claims he is telling the facts, when he knows that he might not be telling the facts, is an absolute liar. If we are truly attempting to be honest, we need to do due diligence on everything that we proclaim as fact before we proclaim it as fact. But if we find that we were mistaken in our claims, we need to confess our mistake.

Scientists are not stupid. They know that they don't know how old the universe and earth are. But it comes down to us as 13 to 15 billion years... like it is a fact. Who is the liar?

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sr. member
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July 20, 2016, 07:01:06 AM
Well there will be lot of answers, i can give you funniest one.

Christians will answer something more then 2000 years, my grandmother can explain you how something like that is possible. I can open skype conf if you are interested  Grin
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July 20, 2016, 04:21:14 AM
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think nobody can answer this question correctly. Scientists use Radiometric dating and they believe they are pretty accurate in their calculations, but what if the speed of the radioactive decay was different say 5 thousand years ago than it is now?
I too think that scientist really predict the age of the earth. everything can not be explained. We may never truly know the age of the earth.

I think you were going to say "scientist can't really predict the age of the earth" and by predict you meant determine. Yes, they can't. They say the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years, but this assertion is based on radiometric age dating which might be not accurate.

In his sentence is very confusing cause it contradicting to each other maybe he would like to say scientist can't really predict. as you said. No one could tell whats the exact age of Earth. 

That's interesting. I am really curious to know which degree you have and what your field of study is. A geologist I suppose?
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July 20, 2016, 03:58:00 AM
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think nobody can answer this question correctly. Scientists use Radiometric dating and they believe they are pretty accurate in their calculations, but what if the speed of the radioactive decay was different say 5 thousand years ago than it is now?
I too think that scientist really predict the age of the earth. everything can not be explained. We may never truly know the age of the earth.

I think you were going to say "scientist can't really predict the age of the earth" and by predict you meant determine. Yes, they can't. They say the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years, but this assertion is based on radiometric age dating which might be not accurate.

In his sentence is very confusing cause it contradicting to each other maybe he would like to say scientist can't really predict. as you said. No one could tell whats the exact age of Earth. 
legendary
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July 20, 2016, 03:25:41 AM
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think nobody can answer this question correctly. Scientists use Radiometric dating and they believe they are pretty accurate in their calculations, but what if the speed of the radioactive decay was different say 5 thousand years ago than it is now?
I too think that scientist really predict the age of the earth. everything can not be explained. We may never truly know the age of the earth.

I think you were going to say "scientist can't really predict the age of the earth" and by predict you meant determine. Yes, they can't. They say the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years, but this assertion is based on radiometric age dating which might be not accurate.
hero member
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July 20, 2016, 02:58:55 AM
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world.

Is that your opinion or is that based on facts? Different opinions still fall within the margin of error, so...no, they are not "confused".
hero member
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July 19, 2016, 12:53:14 PM
#99
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think nobody can answer this question correctly. Scientists use Radiometric dating and they believe they are pretty accurate in their calculations, but what if the speed of the radioactive decay was different say 5 thousand years ago than it is now?
I too think that scientist really predict the age of the earth. everything can not be explained. We may never truly know the age of the earth.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
July 19, 2016, 12:06:46 PM
#98
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
Appeal to ignorance and putting therefore it is god. Remove your head out of your ass to avoid thinking this poorly. If you think science confuse you then don't use the things that scientist made and discovered, go back in stone age life.

Nobody has to talk about God to see that the scientists who calculate the age of the earth constantly use limiting words as disclaimers so that they can protect themselves from libel. This is the way they tell us, themselves, that they don't know that what they are telling us is factual.

Cool
Scientist may not tell the absolute truth but they can tell part of it and it means to us.  I believe in scientist because unlike religion claiming certaing things, they claim a certain fact by observing and gathering data. It means it was scrutinized before presented as fact.

For example. Scientists can tell the truth of the half-life of C-14. Because of this, if the C-14 creation rate in the atmosphere was always the same as it is now, scientists could accurately date things.

The point is, scientists don't know if the C-14 creation rate was always the same. In fact, they don't know if there was any C-14 created in the atmosphere at all beyond about 5,000 years ago. So, we don't need all the examples of carbon dating inaccuracies that abound right now. We can see that nobody knows the truth using scientific means.

Cool

EDIT: If this was all, we could say that science simply made a mistake. But the fact that they don't tell you that they don't know, shows that they are deceptive, and shouldn't be believed without personal examination of EVERYTHING that they say.
It could be a foundation to base things, even though they might be wrong then what's wrong with that? As long as they are changeable it will never be a big deal. If they see something that is a mistake they can easily remove that data and look for another, scientist are doing trial and error until they get things that may suit things right.
legendary
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July 19, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
#97
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
Appeal to ignorance and putting therefore it is god. Remove your head out of your ass to avoid thinking this poorly. If you think science confuse you then don't use the things that scientist made and discovered, go back in stone age life.

Nobody has to talk about God to see that the scientists who calculate the age of the earth constantly use limiting words as disclaimers so that they can protect themselves from libel. This is the way they tell us, themselves, that they don't know that what they are telling us is factual.

Cool
Scientist may not tell the absolute truth but they can tell part of it and it means to us.  I believe in scientist because unlike religion claiming certaing things, they claim a certain fact by observing and gathering data. It means it was scrutinized before presented as fact.

For example. Scientists can tell the truth of the half-life of C-14. Because of this, if the C-14 creation rate in the atmosphere was always the same as it is now, scientists could accurately date things.

The point is, scientists don't know if the C-14 creation rate was always the same. In fact, they don't know if there was any C-14 created in the atmosphere at all beyond about 5,000 years ago. So, we don't need all the examples of carbon dating inaccuracies that abound right now. We can see that nobody knows the truth using scientific means.

Cool

EDIT: If this was all, we could say that science simply made a mistake. But the fact that they don't tell you that they don't know, shows that they are deceptive, and shouldn't be believed without personal examination of EVERYTHING that they say.
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July 19, 2016, 11:35:45 AM
#96
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
Appeal to ignorance and putting therefore it is god. Remove your head out of your ass to avoid thinking this poorly. If you think science confuse you then don't use the things that scientist made and discovered, go back in stone age life.

Nobody has to talk about God to see that the scientists who calculate the age of the earth constantly use limiting words as disclaimers so that they can protect themselves from libel. This is the way they tell us, themselves, that they don't know that what they are telling us is factual.

Cool
Scientist may not tell the absolute truth but they can tell part of it and it means to us.  I believe in scientist because unlike religion claiming certaing things, they claim a certain fact by observing and gathering data. It means it was scrutinized before presented as fact.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
July 19, 2016, 11:31:21 AM
#95
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
Appeal to ignorance and putting therefore it is god. Remove your head out of your ass to avoid thinking this poorly. If you think science confuse you then don't use the things that scientist made and discovered, go back in stone age life.

Nobody has to talk about God to see that the scientists who calculate the age of the earth constantly use limiting words as disclaimers so that they can protect themselves from libel. This is the way they tell us, themselves, that they don't know that what they are telling us is factual.

Cool
full member
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July 19, 2016, 11:26:33 AM
#94
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
Appeal to ignorance and putting therefore it is god. Remove your head out of your ass to avoid thinking this poorly. If you think science confuse you then don't use the things that scientist made and discovered, go back in stone age life.
sr. member
Activity: 252
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July 19, 2016, 11:15:50 AM
#93
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
still here is no conformation about this, the scientist are still confused about this. they are giving different ideas and figure about the age of the world. i think that is only Allah who know the real age of the earth and only he can know the ending date of the Earth.
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July 19, 2016, 05:09:30 AM
#92
Scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.
hero member
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July 19, 2016, 04:36:57 AM
#91
How old do you think Earth is? Why?

I think nobody can answer this question correctly. Scientists use Radiometric dating and they believe they are pretty accurate in their calculations, but what if the speed of the radioactive decay was different say 5 thousand years ago than it is now?

Do you think the laws of physics and mathematics has changed? Maybe 5000 years ago 2+2 was 5?
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