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legendary
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September 11, 2016, 07:54:31 AM
Based on radiometric dating of meteorites, the age of the Earth is more than 4.54 billion years. Planet where people depend to live already very old, broken, more solid. The question is, how long before the Earth can survive the apocalypse - that time is entirely your own prerogative of God - happened?

Radiometric dating of meteorites doesn't have anything to do with it. Why? Because we don't know what meteors were like before they entered the atmosphere of earth. We don't know for a fact how they changed in their plunge through the atmosphere. It's all guesswork... like guessing how much C-14 was in the atmosphere before 5,000 years ago.

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sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 11, 2016, 07:52:54 AM
It is approximately 7 billion years old. Because when the time god make the universe big bang theory will happen it is like an explosion of one particles that is the sun and create 9 sphere which is also known now a planet. And during that the most beautiful planet in te universe is earth. Earth consist water and land, have gravity and only one satellite.
legendary
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September 11, 2016, 07:48:58 AM
Well, if you listen God in the Old testament, all universe and our planet was created in 6 days!
If you ask Jews, earth is about 6 000 years old.
If you ask scientists, earth is about 4 billion years old.
So, what is truth?
In my opinion we should more believe in science than religion.
I'm also believer but I don't think that we should accept and believe everything in the Bible literally.
If God said he created everything in 6 days, it can means 6 periods or ages, what is in accordance with science.
After all, in other place in the bible it's said that in the eyes of god one day is like thousand years and thousand years is like one day.


If God says that He is talking figuratively, then understand it as figurative language.

If God doesn't say that He is talking figuratively, then believe what He says. If you don't, you are making Him out to be a liar. That is something like the first sin was about. Eve believed the devil rather than God.

If you don't believe all of the Bible, why would you believe any of it? You can't just pick and choose what parts of it to believe. Why not? The whole Bible is a unit at the same time it is many separate writings. It is a unit that tells about Jesus and the salvation He provides.

When God says that one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like a day, which one is it? God isn't talking literally about days and years in this place (in Peter). Rather, He is showing that He is showing us that we can not fathom how God understands things, and that He is different in the way that He understands things than we are, and that He views all things way more thoroughly than we do, and that He is way beyond us.

Science is guesswork. Most of us have not lived much longer than 4,500 years. So, we don't know what happened back then for sure. Even the scientists will tell you by the language that they use in their papers that they do not know for sure. The Bible is what God told His prophets to write. Will we call God a liar like Eve essentially did?

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legendary
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September 11, 2016, 06:40:35 AM
Based on radiometric dating of meteorites, the age of the Earth is more than 4.54 billion years. Planet where people depend to live already very old, broken, more solid. The question is, how long before the Earth can survive the apocalypse - that time is entirely your own prerogative of God - happened?
legendary
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Merit: 1824
September 11, 2016, 05:17:55 AM
Well, if you listen God in the Old testament, all universe and our planet was created in 6 days!
If you ask Jews, earth is about 6 000 years old.
If you ask scientists, earth is about 4 billion years old.
So, what is truth?
In my opinion we should more believe in science than religion.
I'm also believer but I don't think that we should accept and believe everything in the Bible literally.
If God said he created everything in 6 days, it can means 6 periods or ages, what is in accordance with science.
After all, in other place in the bible it's said that in the eyes of god one day is like thousand years and thousand years is like one day.

 
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 10:24:52 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

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Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

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I guess that explains why so many bugs went extinct. They were stomped on by T-Rexes on the ark. Natural selection at work.

The ark was of a size and shape that the dinosaurs could have been kept caged, and the insects, as well, in different cages.

Cool

What about parasites? (I don't mean churches, I mean the microscopic organisms that need a host to survive)

Who was hosting them?

You can do your own research into parasites and who hosts them.    Cool
The problem with repeating religious dogma that bends into the scientifc domains is that you are immediately in areas you don't know anything about.

There are many, many ways to get a first approximation of the age of the earth, the age of the moon, and the universe.


This is exactly the thing that I have been talking about for a long time. Science theory that is believed as fact, since it is not known to be fact, is religious dogma that is bending into scientific domains.

"There are many, many ways to get a first approximation of the age of the earth," but so what? None of the ways are based in fact, because there are too many possible happenings in the past that could throw the approximations way off. In other words, these approximations are theory. Believing them to be fact is a faith thing. It is full-blown religion even though it isn't considered to be such by the believers, the science followers.

When scientists examine the whole aspect of the Bible record - including the nation of Ancient Israel, the life-sense contained in the Bible, the prophesies that have been fulfilled and those that are being played out, the fact of the Dead Sea Scrolls accuracy comparison to present day Bible, that the record of the Bible is factual in the areas where it is known (the walls of Jericho), and many other things - they find that there is way more solidity in the Bible than there is in their so-called scientific investigations in other ways.

Couple this with the fact that science proves God exists, as well as nature shows that God exists, and modern science turns out to be the wild religion.

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legendary
Activity: 2926
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September 10, 2016, 09:48:25 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

Cool

I guess that explains why so many bugs went extinct. They were stomped on by T-Rexes on the ark. Natural selection at work.

The ark was of a size and shape that the dinosaurs could have been kept caged, and the insects, as well, in different cages.

Cool

What about parasites? (I don't mean churches, I mean the microscopic organisms that need a host to survive)

Who was hosting them?

You can do your own research into parasites and who hosts them.    Cool
The problem with repeating religious dogma that bends into the scientifc domains is that you are immediately in areas you don't know anything about.

There are many, many ways to get a first approximation of the age of the earth, the age of the moon, and the universe.

legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 04:13:12 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

Cool

I guess that explains why so many bugs went extinct. They were stomped on by T-Rexes on the ark. Natural selection at work.

The ark was of a size and shape that the dinosaurs could have been kept caged, and the insects, as well, in different cages.

Cool

What about parasites? (I don't mean churches, I mean the microscopic organisms that need a host to survive)

Who was hosting them?

You can do your own research into parasites and who hosts them.    Cool
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
September 10, 2016, 04:07:09 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

Cool

I guess that explains why so many bugs went extinct. They were stomped on by T-Rexes on the ark. Natural selection at work.

The ark was of a size and shape that the dinosaurs could have been kept caged, and the insects, as well, in different cages.

Cool

What about parasites? (I don't mean churches, I mean the microscopic organisms that need a host to survive)

Who was hosting them?
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 04:01:35 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

Cool

I guess that explains why so many bugs went extinct. They were stomped on by T-Rexes on the ark. Natural selection at work.

The ark was of a size and shape that the dinosaurs could have been kept caged, and the insects, as well, in different cages.

Cool
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
September 10, 2016, 03:55:03 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

Cool

I guess that explains why so many bugs went extinct. They were stomped on by T-Rexes on the ark. Natural selection at work.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 03:52:09 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?

Now you are being just silly. By far the majority of animals and birds and fish are not mentioned in the Bible by kind. Like the rest, dinosaurs are mention in general reference to all the animals.

Probably the dinosaurs died out shortly after the Great Flood of Noah's day, not being able to find enough food to keep them going after they were let out of the ark.

Cool
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
September 10, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool

Which dinosaur did Jesus ride? Why aren't dinosaurs ever mentioned in the Bible?
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 03:31:21 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs were created along with everything else. All the fossils are generally miss-dated. Consider, there is such a thing as rot. Delicate ferns and mollusk and other fossils would have completely rotted away long before they could ever think about fossilizing, if the standard of 10,000 or more years for fossilization was accurate.

Fossilization in the ancient past was a process that we probably don't understand at all. But, we DO have several fossilized people and other things that we know are only a hundred years old or less.

In other words, fossilization that takes less than a hundred years is in evidence. So the whole theory about the age of "aged dinosaurs" needs to be re-hashed.

Cool
hero member
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September 10, 2016, 03:21:06 PM
I'd like to see how Young Earth Creationists try to explain the existence of aged dinosaur fossils. I mean, I do admit that everything I know could be wrong. But I don't rely on alternatives like absolute certainty from a book whose supporters literally claim humans coexisted with dinosaurs.
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 03:01:17 PM
Since the planet Earth doesn't have a birth certificate to record its formation, scientists have spent hundreds of years struggling to determine the age of the planet. By dating the rocks in the ever-changing crust, as well as neighbors such as the moon and visiting meteorites, scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.


This is the point. The ever-changing part.

When you find out how fast water can create a canyon if it running fast enough and strong enough, you will find that this form of standard geology is way off.

Trees lying across several hundred thousands of years of standard dated strata in the ground, shows how far off this can be.

Dating by moon and meteors doesn't really mean anything, because nobody knows what goes on in space geology.

I don't doubt that scientists do their best, but their best can be way off.

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But maybe you are just way off? ^^

Consider, even the scientists and geologists tell you that they aren't sure. The say things like "maybe" and "if" and "it looks like," and a few of them will actually come right out and say that they really don't know.

The Bible, on the other hand, says it all in a factual way. The Bible writers were eye witnesses, and witnesses of other eye witnesses. When you look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, you will find very few differences between what they say and what the Hebrew Bible says today. In other words, the Bible is a faithful witness, copied faithfully, down through the ages. It has power in it, and the people of Bible times recorded the power in the Bible, and the fact that there are so many powerful Christians today, shows that the power of God is in the Bible.

Essentially, the Bible beats all the other records hands down. Study it. I am not making this up.

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hero member
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September 10, 2016, 12:50:12 PM
I have no idea but I think you could answer that through yourself.  It is easy tk know since everything can be searched just type and then enter.  But they said according to bible it is around 6000 years. The scientists on the contrary said that itnis about billion years. 
sr. member
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September 10, 2016, 11:02:42 AM
The Earth is 4.543 billion years.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
September 10, 2016, 09:34:38 AM
Since the planet Earth doesn't have a birth certificate to record its formation, scientists have spent hundreds of years struggling to determine the age of the planet. By dating the rocks in the ever-changing crust, as well as neighbors such as the moon and visiting meteorites, scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.


This is the point. The ever-changing part.

When you find out how fast water can create a canyon if it running fast enough and strong enough, you will find that this form of standard geology is way off.

Trees lying across several hundred thousands of years of standard dated strata in the ground, shows how far off this can be.

Dating by moon and meteors doesn't really mean anything, because nobody knows what goes on in space geology.

I don't doubt that scientists do their best, but their best can be way off.

Cool

But maybe you are just way off? ^^
legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
September 10, 2016, 01:56:35 AM
Since the planet Earth doesn't have a birth certificate to record its formation, scientists have spent hundreds of years struggling to determine the age of the planet. By dating the rocks in the ever-changing crust, as well as neighbors such as the moon and visiting meteorites, scientists have calculated that Earth is 4.54 billion years old, with an error range of 50 million years.


This is the point. The ever-changing part.

When you find out how fast water can create a canyon if it running fast enough and strong enough, you will find that this form of standard geology is way off.

Trees lying across several hundred thousands of years of standard dated strata in the ground, shows how far off this can be.

Dating by moon and meteors doesn't really mean anything, because nobody knows what goes on in space geology.

I don't doubt that scientists do their best, but their best can be way off.

Cool
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