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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

The game of lottery is a game of luck... thinking that mathematical strategies will work is a big mistake, these games are controlled by the bookmakers, it's very impossible to win mathematically
Just play the game and hope for the best

maybe it works to other people but it's really impossible to win using a mathematical strategy, maybe it's just coincidence that they won using the computation that they use but for me, lottery is really all about luck and by playing this, It seems that it only takes belief and manifestation that you will win or  luck really favors on you because it is difficult to prove that you can win it through mathematic calculations because no one has yet proven that they won using that strategy.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

The game of lottery is a game of luck... thinking that mathematical strategies will work is a big mistake, these games are controlled by the bookmakers, it's very impossible to win mathematically
Just play the game and hope for the best
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I don't really get the whole concept of this and I definitely think it's rigged, I mean how realistic is this ? It's not even possible to get a winning 4x in a row and not to talk of 14x. I believe the reason for most people not taking part in buying lottery ticket is because they already feel they are wasting their money and time because the possibility and probability of them actually getting the lucky number or ticket in one in a million and am also in same thought with this.
Or maybe the person involved is a paid actor of the site to make them look winable and
paying their players because there is nothing in the world who will believe that it is possible to
win that many times in lottery ,
and if this truly happen? that person will surely under surveillance now and in the eye
of the government and gambling world for how did he do that.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I have thought of this idea a long time ago, I always have a strong belief that there is a strong mathematical calculations on Lotto and code games that no body have ever discovered. perhaps the manufacturers or the programmers of this kind of game are genius. And they may be changing their method on regular basis if they notice that more people are wining. I have been wondering that is there no mathematician than can beat these system of game that have been lingering for long? I just discovered that even if they discovered you are a genius and has been winning fair enough, is either they hire you or change the system with another formular. If the man in question won 14 times due to mathematical calculations and imputation I strongly believe it's not a lie or a guest because somebody can not guest something wright for 14 consecutive times. That means he is actually using the right method after a long time of deep sturdy. So if anything should change it will be the system that will change it if he wing a huge amount regularly.
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There is a movie that I enjoyed watching, which is about that subject: Jerry and Marge Go Large. Basically there was a hole in the system that allowed if you bought a lot of numbers your investment to be EV+. Although nowadays those bugs have been corrected. Anyone who thinks they are going to get rich playing the lottery better think twice.
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Yeah, something else must have happened. It's called using a big capital. Grin And according to the article he had the help of something else and I will just quote it here.
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With the help of a group of investors and a syndicate called the International Lotto Fund, Mandel targeted 14 lotteries around the world.

They didn't even tell how much money they spent printing all those tickets and I bet it's also a lot of money. The combination possibilities go to millions so a $1 bet for each ticket will need a ton of money, that's why he needed investors. Now, not everyone could do this. Even if you use Math but you can only afford 1000 tickets then you are a loser here. Will millionaires do this kind of thing? No, I don't think so. It's not worth the investment. That's why even the guy in the article quit after he got the jackpot because it's not a job that someone can be proud of and the risk factor is way higher than simply gambling in casino games. The capital needed is high, it's not a thing for average gamblers and the lotto system might've changed because of this event.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Apparently this really happened and he did not steal or defraud the system. Stefan Mandel, was not only a very lucky guy, but also a great master of intelligence.

Just to clarify what the OP didn't make clear... this is nothing new, as this all actually happened in the year 1990.

Mandel only needed to use mathematics to discover that certain prizes exceeded three times the total value of all possible combinations, in other words... to win in the game, he didn't need to depend only on luck, but on a lot of money to bet on all these combinations .

The most difficult thing was finding "investors" who were willing to trust Mandel to buy the bets for the more than 7 million combinations.
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Well, mathematics comes into play when you buy a significant amount of tickets, but the risk also increase significantly. Let's say you bought 80% of the availlable tickets for the draw, then you have a much higher chance to win the Lottery, than the person that has bought one or two tickets.

The thing is, how much did you spend to buy all those tickets and how much will you lose if you do not win with all those tickets. Lottery winning odds are crazy... so it is almost impossible to win 14 times in a row, even if you buy 80% of those tickets.
Purchasing 80% of the lottery ticket is what I believe could occur, and we would agree that it is possible to win as a result, instead of lying to us and telling us that it is mathematically possible to win the lottery up to 14 times in a row without the authorities figuring out why a specific person has won the lottery 14 times.

However, not everyone wants to tell individuals the truth about why they continuously won a certain game of trier without coating their words to sound extremely good to those who are listening.
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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
He didn't show any proof, so everything he has is his word in his favour... What intrigues me is that CIA and FBI investigated him, but he was cleared, what makes me conclude he wasn't acting in collusion with the people who ran the lottery draw. I think it will always be a mistery in the case of this mathematician, although here in my country I also know some individuals who won on the lottery a dozen of times, but that was because they had schemes with the lottery owners (corrupt people). There was even an iconic "lucky" winner who won 12 times on the lottery in 14 days who became a deputy at the legislative federal house. He said: "It was pure luck. I swear to God. I'm a very faithful guy".

That is why you should make sure the house you are playing has provably fair feature enabled, so this kind of "lucky" gambler won't steal the winning from an honest gambler who deserves winning the prize.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I don't really get the whole concept of this and I definitely think it's rigged, I mean how realistic is this ? It's not even possible to get a winning 4x in a row and not to talk of 14x. I believe the reason for most people not taking part in buying lottery ticket is because they already feel they are wasting their money and time because the possibility and probability of them actually getting the lucky number or ticket in one in a million and am also in same thought with this.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I honestly think there's a lot of help he got from the inside, his consistent wins and attributing them to simple maths is possible, but in his case, they're mere fallacies. He had acquired vital information from the draw team. He couldn't have pulled through a whooping 14 times on a clean slate. I believe his sheets are dirty, same with those convicting him. They got fair shares from his winnings and turned blind eyes to the obvious, which is bringing both him and his inside aid to book for their manipulations and exploitations of the lotto organization.
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This is the funniest thing I have heard, how can someone even win the lottery once with mathematical calculation. This can only happen if the lottery isn't a fair game.
In a case of fair lottery numbers are spined and then five or more numbers are selected at random.
The lottery is a game of luck and no mathematical permutations can help you win the lottery don't be deceived. Those who win lottery are are amongst the luckiest people on earth.
Mate, they certainly are the luckiest. Look at what's happening in our national lottery and there have been a lot of winners for consecutive times although this isn't about someone who's good in mathematics but there were series of winners and they keep on coming, our country is breaking the record about hitting the lottery is much easier and has more chance than being struck by a lightning. But you know what, there's corruption here indeed and just this day, there are two winners that will split the $158k. It looks low but this is after when our senate started to investigate continuous winning in the lottery like from $10M and a lot of series of millions being won.
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The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.
Using mathematical calculations for lottery, does this easily works or it becomes burden for most of us? In most cases, I don't follow the lottery because it doesn't suit my race rather I'm open to losses. The increase chances of winning in the system, quite good running for everyone who thinks we're opportune to have good records. There's more luck on the way when it comes lottery games. It becomes very important for most of us who happens to be having nice time in the space. I know it's not easy as this works but it brings the point needed.
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This is the funniest thing I have heard, how can someone even win the lottery once with mathematical calculation. This can only happen if the lottery isn't a fair game.
In a case of fair lottery numbers are spined and then five or more numbers are selected at random.
The lottery is a game of luck and no mathematical permutations can help you win the lottery don't be deceived. Those who win lottery are are amongst the luckiest people on earth.
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The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.

yes it's true that there is an advantage if you get the right calculations and steps to win a lottery but we have no certainty that this will lead you to consistent winnings because I still believe that gambling, specifically in the lottery is more on luck only, no one has been able to prove that there are exact computations on how to win it, and if there is, he will definitely not share it with other people.

Actually whatever type of game you play if it is still related to gambling or something that is a betting activity then still in the end the result at the end of the session is always about uncertainty, or what it means is that you will never know about what will happen at the end of the session between winning or losing even if for example as you say here that you have managed to get the right calculation, and I would say that you can't actually say that your calculations are correct because the outcome at the end of the session is still unanswered which means that it is still very possible for you to end the session with a loss and means that something that you think is correct is nothing more than just your initial feelings.

In the end, according to what you believe, yes it is true, however and any type of gambling in the end will still refer to luck that will ensure whether we will actually be able to win or not, no matter how skilled you are in analyzing or calculating, the overall possibility of losing will always be a sure thing.
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The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.
I'm quite in doubt, I'd more believe that it's just luck or coincidence. Winning multiple times would indeed create an impression that something is analyzed but if that's the case, given that there is a pattern, why is there no consistency? If he could plan winning 14 times then why don't he make it daily or weekly. Let's say he is needing time to use a certain calculation but I'd only believe it he would be consistent of it given that it is believed he is doing something to win. One of my hesitation of fully believing on this is the fact that there are many mathematicians who are not even winning once, why's that so? Is he really that of a genius to be the only one to do so? And of course, consistency with the outcome. He should be winning in most instances he is betting if such thing really works 'coz if even once or twice the sequence breaks, then that should be a reset of a pattern right?  Also with the idea of how many number combination there is, it is hard or even impossible to accurately predict the right one.

Don't get me wrong, if this is true then I'm happy for him. I am just finding it hard to believe it easily since we all know how small the chance is to win, especially with lottery which is solely dependent with luck. I'm just being realistic of how gambling works.
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The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.

yes it's true that there is an advantage if you get the right calculations and steps to win a lottery but we have no certainty that this will lead you to consistent winnings because I still believe that gambling, specifically in the lottery is more on luck only, no one has been able to prove that there are exact computations on how to win it, and if there is, he will definitely not share it with other people.
I actually heard a few rumors in the past about calculating the numbers to win the lottery, mathematical calculations as well as information gathering for research allow us to achieve results, I'm not sure if it's a movie or a news but because of this reason, lottery companies seem to be changing their methods every day. And with the updating of random numbers that do not follow a certain mathematical formula, the odds of winning the lottery become rare and once is more than enough to get rich, not necessary fourteen times as the title suggests
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The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.

yes it's true that there is an advantage if you get the right calculations and steps to win a lottery but we have no certainty that this will lead you to consistent winnings because I still believe that gambling, specifically in the lottery is more on luck only, no one has been able to prove that there are exact computations on how to win it, and if there is, he will definitely not share it with other people.
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The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.
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I have read something like this and maybe statistically, that's really possible when that mathematician has got the idea on how algorithm and numbers really work for that kind of betting he's won it.

But this rarely happens and if someone wins like for so many times in the lottery, they can justify and reason out that they've been counting it countless times with the algorithm using math because they're mathematicians which is kind of a tricky reasoning.

And it's up to the people who listens to that person if they'll believe or not.
Sometimes I feel that maybe it was all his luck and a coincidence that he managed to win the lottery back to back so many times, and even if he did all those calculations and everything, the results could still go against his calculations but they never did because somehow, he was lucky as well besides being a genius in mathematics.

If we talk about such calculations and algorithms, I'm pretty sure that it is not possible anymore because the technology is getting more advanced over time, and casinos and lottery management keep increasing the security so that people don't get to use any sort of exploits and manage to win against the house abnormally.
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