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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


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If we do speak about mathematical concerns specially on lotteries then it is really indeed relevant considering on the odds and chances that we do know for a certain individual on making those hits.
The hard thing only here is that there's no way that you could be able to hit up those combinations so easily on which it is really that close to impossible if we do speak about odds or chances.
Just like the rest been saying that im not that a fan on clicking up some random links too online, so i would really be just simply basing up on what others been talking about.

Did see up some links talking on the same headline.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-win-lottery-romanian-mathematician-hacked-system-stefan-mandel-a8527556.html

Seems like that this man would be banned forever in participating lotteries. lol.
If ever this one is true then i dont see for those current existing lotteries to be in panic.  Cool
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

HAHA! Winning the lottery 14 times? Sorry that is just pure crap and BS at the same time. I doubt that he really won the lottery as he tried to rationalize by saying that he used "simple math" for it. If it were that simple per se, then everyone would be winning twice-thrice by now. The fact that lightning does not strike the same person twice heavily implies that winning the lottery is almost a once-in-a-lifetime venture due to the significant low odds of winning, yet this guy won 14 times?

I agree with everyone here that this guy is just pure BS. If he knew such "simple math," then why couldn't he win at least everyday or like 15 times? Again, this is definitely rigged and there is perhaps someone controlling the system from the inside.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

The skills also the important one in the gambling,because the gambling had the two way of gate.One is the sports betting,which is based on your sports knowledge,sometimes it also favour the person on their luck.But the casino game in the gambling site was purely based on the analytical skills of the gamblers.If you are good at numbers and mathematical probability,you will get more chance to win the money from the casino game in the gambling site.So this 14 times win never seems fishy for me.

Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.

Not all the gamblers had more IQ because the society with all level of IQ level.The gambling site provide the casino game for the more IQ people like dice,slot games.The average or less IQ people can use the sports betting in the gambling site.So we need to use the gambling site based on our IQ level and we should share this idea to the gamblers in your circle to avoid of loss in gambling site.
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Honestly, I couldn't believe it --nothing happens in real life and I believe that there are no mathematical calculations that support it other than luck. In order to increase your winning chance in the lottery, you will also buy more tickets but if we think it is because of the said calculation, that is somewhat unbelievable.

In fact, so many people got into the lottery and even spent thousands every day but still got unlucky. Some people will say that their manipulation lottery especially when managed by the government.
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I don't trust and I don't believe in the lottery, for example in my country, lottery winners don't show their face when they collect the money they won, but ironically when the same lottery company offers a new car to the winner of a contest held by the company, they show the face of the person who won the new car and they are cars that cost a lot of money, even having the same value of money that they give to lottery winners, so if the reason for not showing the face of the winner of the lottery in my country, is for the safety of the winners, then it doesn't make any sense. because the same lottery company shows the faces of the winners of other prizes. I started to be very suspicious of my country's lottery

and the many competitions that are held in my country, because I never see any winner walking down the street and posting the prize they won on their social networks, which makes everything very strange. I have seen in the news about lottery winners in other countries, it seems to me that they are real winners, because TV programs usually interview the winners and talk about their lives as it was before they won the lottery and after winning the lottery, they also talk with the relatives and friends of the person who won the lottery, but I have never seen them talk to someone who had won the lottery twice, so much so that I even thought it was impossible.

Now I'm seeing a story about someone who says they won the lottery 14 times, if I already think it's impossible to win the lottery 2 times, imagine someone telling me about winning 14 times, I'll immediately say that it's absurd, something impossible. Without a doubt, it must be a concerted thing to make many people buy lottery tickets thinking that they can win constantly, these lottery companies are very intelligent and are experts at lying
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I feel like I believe and don't believe. How is it possible for someone to win this kind of gambling up to fourteen times, just by using simple mathematical calculations? This is truly something beyond my previous expectations. So that makes me a little doubtful about the truth of what you convey.

Remembering that mathematics says that gambling will only result in losses. and what's more, this is the type of gambling that is the most difficult to win and the most complicated to be able to produce truly precise number analysis. This is the type of gambling with the lowest win rate.
And in the last few years I have been a lottery gambler, as long as I placed bets on this type of gambling I was only able to achieve one win and that wasn't much, just a small win. Until finally I gave up and stopped buying lottery tickets.
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for anyone curious about how he did it, according to this article, this was his system.

anyway, from what I have read, lottery organizations have made changes to their rules so what Mandel did in the past would not work on today's lotteries.

I think I've seen this in the movie.

This is very similar, try to check the thriller of the movie. Jerry & Marge Go Large – Official Trailer Starring Bryan Cranston & Annette Bening (They said, they are professional lottery players) Grin
I saw this movie, it was a nice movie to watch. the people who ran winfall lottery really messed up.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Lottery is complete luck.  There are odds involved but you can skew the odds in your favor since lotteries are random every single time.  Past trends does not mean it will continue.  Any trend is a mere coincidence and should not be used as a forecast model.  Now if the lottery is rigged or not completely random that's another thing but I don't think that's what we are talking about here.
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If only by mathematical calculations someone can win the lottery 14 times in a row, that means that the average person who is smart in mathematics can do that, but in reality until now I have rarely heard of people who are smart in mathematics winning the lottery. So I think he's smart in math and it has nothing to do with his win, he's just trying to find an alibi for his win by saying that "I'm good at math", when what actually happened was that he found a loophole in a lottery game and took advantage of it along with his syndicate.
Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I don't love clicking links, but I think the guy is full of shit. There is no way to be that lucky unless it's rigged IMO.

You are absolutely right,14 times without some sort of rigging is impossible,simply the probability and statistics will never give right to such person.You can be a genius at math and never be able to win the lottery for the simple fact that everything relies on luck.

It is impossible based on statistics and probability and every statistician will never agree with this guy until very strong proof evidence is provided that the guy truly won 14 times without rigging or cheating in that lottery.Nothing is impossible in the world as long as luck hits you but I strongly believe luck does not hit you 14 times in games of luck.
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It seems like you have answered it yourself and you said that lottery is based on luck.

what I know, even though I rarely or never buy lottery tickets, is that this type of gambling is actually based on pure luck, even though some people believe that mathematics or whatever can increase the chances of getting the jackpot. but I have never believed anyone who said that winning streaks in lottery betting types, even as in the article, winning 14 times is a very ridiculous thing.
let's look at the many gamblers who buy lottery tickets for several months or even years and never get the jackpot because it's about pure luck and from what I said it is proof that the 14 consecutive winning streak in the lottery is just a myth. unless maybe he is a former gambling employee and knows a loophole to get the jackpot.
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i was skeptical that it wasn't just simple calculations with mathematics, because to get 14x winnings in the lottery was quite difficult considering that the lottery was a game with a low probability of winning, unless he had godly luck maybe he could achieve that.

maybe he and his friends found a loophole in the lottery platform he was playing on and used it to their advantage, maybe that's what he did. because if he believes he can win with only mathematical calculations, why did he go bankrupt in the end and choose to exile himself, why not just go to another country and do the same thing. that doesn't make sense.
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I prefer to call it an exploit, it takes an imaginative mind to come out with a plan to launch a lottery firm to buy all the combinations, it takes a lot of money and a good logistic to do that if this was not stopped just imagine lotteries will lose its appeal to the masses and only corporations will win all the prizes it will become the battle of the corporations.
Good to know based on the article you provided that the authorities have banned this method, but we never if in other countries a group or organization is doing this, the lottery should be for the masses and not for groups to exploit.
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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

It was made possible because of an organized group headed by Mandel buying all the combinations, this scheme is not good and it will ruin the reputation of the lottery system It is good that it was stopped because if not only big corporations create an exploit so they will be the one vying for the top prizes, I understand this scheme is now banned, I'm surprised that its possible to buy all combinations but its need a lot of manpower and resources.
Some people are very cunning to come out with a scheme just to make money, I hope lottery organizers will make sure such a similar scheme will not exist, if they do it will ruin people's trust.
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Luck may be on the gambler's side sometimes, but if the gambler does not realize that they have got what they want and must immediately stop gambling, they will only lose more money. But if it has anything to do with mathematics, I don't know, especially since I need help understanding mathematics, which is too complicated.

But we don't know the truth about it. He may have been lucky so he could win 14 times or he used other methods we don't know about. We only know that lottery games are purely games of luck. So we can only depend on luck, which makes people come back to the lottery game to try to win the prize money.
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As we know gambling is basically luck based game and not an expert or professionalism because if it was that professionalism we have lots of people over here that has deep their heads into gamble for them to constantly win but no, instead it turns out to be regular lost. Just as yahoo62278 except it's all being rigged over 14 times. This impression keeps luring people into gambling with the mindset they would often win but at later ends turns out to be losing always.
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It was well planned he could not have pulled it off if he did not have investors willing to invest in his idea but because of his plan the lottery industry learned that it's possible to cheat the lottery so they banned this method to make it even to all bettors, this kind Mandel will not work anymore in the modern lottery because the surveillance system of the lotto machine can trace what outlets is buying bulks and lottery companies with the help of the government will not allow a company that was set up just to cheat the lottery.

A lottery is very popular in many countries and it thrives on trust if people do not trust the lottery system it will go bankrupt, the lottery should be clean from manipulation people are buying tickets because they trust that every ticket has an equal chance.
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Well, I have been gambling for some years now, and I have partake in different kinds of gambling, including slot, sports, and lotteries, both offline and online. With my years of experience in gambling, I cannot believe what the OP has described; it is very impossible to win lotteries 14 times with any sort of mathematical calculation. Either rigging was involved or some sort of mystical power was used, if at all possible. Another thing I am thinking of is that it might also be an error from the Lotto company. If he truly has a mathematical trick that he uses to win more often in lotteries, then it should be something he can be doing all the time, right? That will confirm he is telling the truth. Also, if he can actually use those tricks to win in slot games or any kind of game that I will choose for him to play, then that will confirm what he is saying.
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So it means he beats the lottery system? I am not really sure of this unless he is cheating. It is impossible to win 14x in the lottery unless that person is very lucky, which is again close to impossible. Also if you win the lottery you won't bet again, unless this kind of lottery is just a small win. I haven't read the article but I just based it on the title. If that person is only using formulas to win the lottery then for sure there are tons of bright minds who have even made a computer program to calculate it easily and win.
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People can win multiple times as we witnessed in their lives they won multiple times to become successful in any field they choose to be. This is not everybody could have of course. because only those few people are lucky enough because of their persistence and consistency in doing what they really love or what they want to become. In such a scenario, I think he just has been bet multiple times and ended up winning because of that or he just has the albino bat possibilities, and as we witnessed, this is a kind of fate he has from the start.
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