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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
That cannot happen solely by luck as I believe it is close to be impossible for anyone to be that lucky, what most likely happened is that they found a weakness on some of those lotteries and the way they produced the random numbers was not random enough and it had patterns, so that person and his team discovered those patterns and they bet on every single one of them and they made money this way, not an easy way to make money but it is possible if you have the data and the knowledge to dig into it.
You are correct. the guy who won on lottery 14 times found a weakness that lead him to winning that much in lottery but not because the winning numbers aren't "random enough", I posted how he did it on this thread but as far as I know lottery organization nowadays has made a rule which makes the guy's system obselete.
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Mate, there's a ground breaking and probably can be included in the Guinness by winning consecutively, a lot of times in the national lottery in our country. The PCSO(agency of the lottery) doesn't name the winner and just puts the alias 'lone bettor' and look at how many times that it had won. This isn't about math or statistics but majority of our countrymen believes that this is all pure corruption from our government.
(https://manilastandard.net/news/314425551/pcso-to-investigate-extremely-lucky-bettor.html#google_vignette)
(https://www.rappler.com/business/cases-alleged-lotto-bettors-winning-multiple-times-explained-senate-hearing-march-2024/)
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But I don't see the ease in achieving all of that now as the approach to people's assets is complicated and almost impenetrable. People are now paying more attention to security and possible exploitations.
Because it was not really possible in gambling. Because there are no mathematical calculations that are made to get such close accurate winning numbers. In fact, in my country, many people are doing this but I haven't heard they win.

We need luck in winning the lottery unless someone from the inside manipulates the results. There are rumors that some high-ranking workers in the lottery pay someone to buy tickets and win but there is no strong evidence to convince people this is true. But we can feel this is true because just imagine that there are a lot of people buying lottery tickets for several years but winning nothing. Then how come a single person wins 14 times?
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
That cannot happen solely by luck as I believe it is close to be impossible for anyone to be that lucky, what most likely happened is that they found a weakness on some of those lotteries and the way they produced the random numbers was not random enough and it had patterns, so that person and his team discovered those patterns and they bet on every single one of them and they made money this way, not an easy way to make money but it is possible if you have the data and the knowledge to dig into it.
Possibly, every system or application has its weakness or vulnerability, and if the article is true that it won more than once, then I don't think it is by luck. That person may be doing something, but of course they can't question him unless they provide proof that he is cheating, but if he manages to do this, what more other people will do? But this news or article is not always appearing, meaning even now there's still no individual winning in the lottery more than once. Imagine winning in the lottery is like punching the moon—nearly impossible. What more winning consecutively? So either they are doing something magic or what we couldn't know unless we could have their statement, but I doubt they will reveal their secret. Anyway,  if the article becomes more viral, I'm sure there will be an investigation regarding that, but from the looks of it, authority doesn't care.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
That cannot happen solely by luck as I believe it is close to be impossible for anyone to be that lucky, what most likely happened is that they found a weakness on some of those lotteries and the way they produced the random numbers was not random enough and it had patterns, so that person and his team discovered those patterns and they bet on every single one of them and they made money this way, not an easy way to make money but it is possible if you have the data and the knowledge to dig into it.
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I have read something like this and maybe statistically, that's really possible when that mathematician has got the idea on how algorithm and numbers really work for that kind of betting he's won it.

But this rarely happens and if someone wins like for so many times in the lottery, they can justify and reason out that they've been counting it countless times with the algorithm using math because they're mathematicians which is kind of a tricky reasoning.

And it's up to the people who listens to that person if they'll believe or not.

I actually can't help but believe in calculations like that for lottery winnings. but if he wins 14 times in a row, yes that is an ability. and perhaps the victory will continue.
but if the situation continues like that, then the bankruptcy of the lottery provider will soon come when there are people who will always win the tickets.
This rarely happens and is beyond belief for all of us. but it's not impossible to do. I still have disbelief, but I seem to be forced to believe.
It really is rare but like what Vegas does to those great gamblers that bags millions everyday from them, they might just ban these winners and won't allow them to bet again.

That's the best resort for them so that they can give chance to the others. But what these mathematicians can do is just have someone to bet for them, certainly like not blood related but a person whom they can trust with the split if ever they win again.
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I have read something like this and maybe statistically, that's really possible when that mathematician has got the idea on how algorithm and numbers really work for that kind of betting he's won it.

But this rarely happens and if someone wins like for so many times in the lottery, they can justify and reason out that they've been counting it countless times with the algorithm using math because they're mathematicians which is kind of a tricky reasoning.

And it's up to the people who listens to that person if they'll believe or not.

I actually can't help but believe in calculations like that for lottery winnings. but if he wins 14 times in a row, yes that is an ability. and perhaps the victory will continue.
but if the situation continues like that, then the bankruptcy of the lottery provider will soon come when there are people who will always win the tickets.
This rarely happens and is beyond belief for all of us. but it's not impossible to do. I still have disbelief, but I seem to be forced to believe.
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I have read something like this and maybe statistically, that's really possible when that mathematician has got the idea on how algorithm and numbers really work for that kind of betting he's won it.

But this rarely happens and if someone wins like for so many times in the lottery, they can justify and reason out that they've been counting it countless times with the algorithm using math because they're mathematicians which is kind of a tricky reasoning.

And it's up to the people who listens to that person if they'll believe or not.
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Just tonight, in this forum, I saw a thread where someone said he exploited a Bitcoin gambling protocol or something and won more than $1m in 2014, it leaves me with even more belief that the man might have actually and in real time worked to exploit the system that has prompted his back to back winning.


But I don't see the ease in achieving all of that now as the approach to people's assets is complicated and almost impenetrable. People are now paying more attention to security and possible exploitations.
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14x lotto jackpot winner yet did not stopped betting? the first 3-5x is more than enough for Him to feed his family up to  their 3rd -5th generation yet this person still betting?
better ask what site are they affiliate so they need to push people believing there is any possible way to gather such money 14x being a winner , we cannot even win a single .
As we know, gambling can be very tempting for someone who has won more than seven times in a row but doesn't immediately stop gambling. When he gets his third win and wants to continue gambling, his greed will emerge and even higher when he can get the next win. And if he doesn't stop gambling after his big win, he is very greedy because he wants another big win.

Getting a big win, like winning a jackpot prize, is very difficult, but he can get it. He must be able to appreciate his victory and not continue gambling. Otherwise, he will only experience a lot of losses and he may lose all the money from his jackpot prize.
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Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.


Conlcusively, if I understand you correctly, it is the rarity of mathematicians and statisticians that has made humanity believe that having a repititive wining of up to 14 times isn't possible?

If this is the case, even though he is a mathematician and not his type is found everywhere, that country isn't the country that has lottery running, other countries do too and there is no way another mathematician would not have gianed entry into the lottery system and has not recorded back to back winning. But it is just rare like you said, even to hear of another person having the same recurrent winning.



I think it is not only due to mathematical calculations, I remember that I had a professor at the University, when I saw the subject of Probability and Statistics , where he emphasized something very interesting, where he said that if he Saw that a person won the lottery, he He was asking me to buy the lottery again, because it was very likely that he would win the lottery again, and then he said that the person who wins the lottery once can continue winning it again, which was something trivial, in fact that I was very surprised at that moment, I can remember it at this Moment as if it were present there, and if it is something that could happen, there is no mathematical formula for that, maybe there is something called luck in those people, which you do is hard to believe For many, but in some way that happens, I don't know the explanation, because when he said it in class, no one gave it so much importance, maybe some didn't even believe him , but there have been cases where yes, that is true.

Also, not only because of what they Say here in the thread , I know a guy who always wins lories, and that wins cars, he wins many things, white goods , in fact he is not even Aware of what they are doing at that moment in the raffle, the Last time he won a last Molding road, of the year, apart from everything for a white line and he won other things , Apart from I think it was $5 apart, and when he was sleeping they called him and went to his house to tell him that it was the happy Winner of that, he couldn't believe it, then at the same time he came back to play and Won again, another truck, then I say this actually Happens , and I told him , Keep playing because the most likely thing is that you will still win , of course In fact, he Also won a 350 truck , something that Seemed very difficult to get right and he did it , his trick is that he always plays the same number in all lotteries, the pro is that when he wins, he makes it bigger, He Really has a lot of Strength, and something I Admire a lot.
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
14x lotto jackpot winner yet did not stopped betting? the first 3-5x is more than enough for Him to feed his family up to  their 3rd -5th generation yet this person still betting?
better ask what site are they affiliate so they need to push people believing there is any possible way to gather such money 14x being a winner , we cannot even win a single .
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Average person are I think only have an average IQ as well, but those who excel in math are gifted and rare since math is a hard subject. This is the reason why we rarely heard a news like this.

And I think that not all math wizards can do the same. Massive amount of luck still plays a big role here since the odds for huge jackpot lotteries are so high that one can ever imagine. If it's just an alibi he said there, I think that's better as that can prevent lots of people to hope too much and became poor doing the same thing. Or they will learn mathematics hard first Cheesy. But they can later on use this newly obtained knowledge when looking for a career.


Conlcusively, if I understand you correctly, it is the rarity of mathematicians and statisticians that has made humanity believe that having a repititive wining of up to 14 times isn't possible?

If this is the case, even though he is a mathematician and not his type is found everywhere, that country isn't the country that has lottery running, other countries do too and there is no way another mathematician would not have gianed entry into the lottery system and has not recorded back to back winning. But it is just rare like you said, even to hear of another person having the same recurrent winning.

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Bloggers will post anything for traffic. I’m sure they did not verify the story before posting. The story sounds like it was written in a movie. It’s impracticable to win the lottery 14 times in a row. The system is designed by professionals in a way that house always have the advantage. Casinos cannot afford to have people rigging their machines. After your first five consecutive wins, the casino would suspect foul play and investigate. And if they don’t find any proof of foul play, you would still be under the radar and likely other casinos would have heard of you.

Some of the story will have the positive impact to the society,some will spread the negative impact to the society and the gambling community.If the gambler made the million dollars as their winning from the lotttery,if the story had the valid proof.Then many new people get into the gambling site for the big win.Because they try to register their name on the next jackpot of that gambling site.If the parent of the kid had loss school fee of money in the gambling site,this will teach the gambler to understand the real value of the money and it’s wrong to use the important money of your family expenses in the gambling site.Because gambling site had two sided coin as the result.
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for anyone curious about how he did it, according to this article, this was his system.

anyway, from what I have read, lottery organizations have made changes to their rules so what Mandel did in the past would not work on today's lotteries.
If ever there's some loophole like this on winning up the lottery, which means that in the past they might be able to bet on their own and would really be able to win up their own lotteries?
I dont know if its just me or what, because if there's such method do exist then it would really be that basically means that they might be using it up in the past and it turns out
that someone had been able to see such thing or discover then they would really be making those adjustments or fixes just to make them look that they are innocent about those probabilities?

Its true that winning up 14x on a lottery would really be raising up those kind of questions and would really be proving out that there's really indeed a huge problem into this system.
Using up mathematics on this one? Then he's really that indeed a genius.

it can happen if all the possible combination of numbers is a defined one, not infinity. so with certain numbers involved, you can already calculate all possible combinations. and if you have such number of computers to print all those tickets, that is if they allow you to print your own, and the money to fund all those tickets. the likelihood of getting such winnings are actually high.

just watch the movie Jerry and Marge Go Large, and you will clearly understand how they do it, and yes, it is all math. but that is, you only have limited numbers involved that you can pay for most of the tickets involved.
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for anyone curious about how he did it, according to this article, this was his system.

anyway, from what I have read, lottery organizations have made changes to their rules so what Mandel did in the past would not work on today's lotteries.
If ever there's some loophole like this on winning up the lottery, which means that in the past they might be able to bet on their own and would really be able to win up their own lotteries?
I dont know if its just me or what, because if there's such method do exist then it would really be that basically means that they might be using it up in the past and it turns out
that someone had been able to see such thing or discover then they would really be making those adjustments or fixes just to make them look that they are innocent about those probabilities?

Its true that winning up 14x on a lottery would really be raising up those kind of questions and would really be proving out that there's really indeed a huge problem into this system.
Using up mathematics on this one? Then he's really that indeed a genius.
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Is this information really valid? Because I don't feel confident enough in this information. Remembering that this is the most difficult gamble to win... and when talking about risk, the risk of losing is very big. And the possibility of winning it is just zero point a few percent. And I think that this kind of gambling game just relies on luck. And how is it possible that such a person can have that much luck. And if indeed he did a calculation using a simple formula in mathematics, I just wonder what kind of calculation he did and which formula he used. And doesn't mathematics say that gambling is a loss?

I personally have done this type of gambling and I have even bought lots of lottery tickets, with the hope that the more tickets I buy, the greater my chances of winning. But in fact that's not the case, I didn't win even once. Even though I have done an analysis which I think the results are quite good. And in the end I decided not to buy lottery tickets anymore.
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Bloggers will post anything for traffic. I’m sure they did not verify the story before posting. The story sounds like it was written in a movie. It’s impracticable to win the lottery 14 times in a row. The system is designed by professionals in a way that house always have the advantage. Casinos cannot afford to have people rigging their machines. After your first five consecutive wins, the casino would suspect foul play and investigate. And if they don’t find any proof of foul play, you would still be under the radar and likely other casinos would have heard of you.
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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
how possible is it to oppose a pre-programmed domain?..lottery would be the least on my list to suggest... Live games would even give more hopes than assurance... with these facts, I feel it's 100% about how lucky you can possibly be.

How do you think this is even possible?? You don't just believe anything you see on the net, do you? 14 times in a row or could it be 14 times in his entire life?? What sorcery would that be?

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