Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 26. (Read 6797 times)

When it comes to issues with addictions, it better for the individual involved to seek for help and doing that will show that he is already made up his mind to break out of that addictions, and for that it may be most appropriate to avoid interfering with the ways the tend to handles their gambling investment and wether or not they want to stop gambling.

And just as you have said, if you force them to seek for help, they may start avoiding you and by so doing it may lead them into more problems in the future, so it's better for you to always mind your business and not interfere in they business unles they ask for help from you at some point in time.

indeed, mind our own business! but if they ask for help, why not assist them. we are just humans who always mistakes in our lives. and we have our lifetime to correct whatever we feel is wrong with our life.
but do remember, don't shove to others about your piece of advice. let them voluntarily ask help. because if you will force them to, the more they will avoid your presence.


self-exclusion is useful to people who are determined to change their lifestyle. but this one won't hold if the user himself broke his promise to change. it is the user not the site who is at fault on this.

for a new site having that kind of acceptance, better be cautious as they are doing this just to attract more players. and once someone hit big, they will change their approach.

Actually we can make out some advises yet showing some concern isnt really that bad but just like you've said that it would really be just that not all would really be having that kind of addiction
 on which having dealing with gambling doesnt automatically means that someone is addicted to it. There are still those people who would really be that having good control towards themselves and would be able to control their finances when it comes to money and this is why it would be always best that you shouldnt really be giving advises if you dont know someone unless if he's a close friend or family
member then it would be normal on having that involvement but in speaking with other people then just let them be on the things that they do gonna do, its their money and its none of our fcking business on stopping them. 

Exactly , not because we are concern meaning we can just jump like that into other addicted gamblers because people will need respect of their boundaries , and if you really wanted to help them out then find your ways inside them slowly and not just a random person that shows being good but in His own life doing nothing but addiction .
remember that you cannot tell people not to gamble when you are also an addicted gambler.

What you just explained is the power of addiction, the addicts never listen until it either ruins them or they just get delivered one way or another. Gambling is a very easy to infest activity, which calls for our careful engagement, and doing it sensibly and with a reasonable amount of money that we can afford to lose will go a long way in keeping us in check. You can imagine people who people started gambling with the mentality that they make huge money pretty fast from it especially when they read similar stories online even if it is fake. That mindset often keeps them in a bad psychology towards it and they might be forced to ruin money into it or get addicted thinking they can still get rich in it and also when they are persistent with it.

But some people would want to get back their lost money even if it is becoming unfeasible to be rich in it, but instead they will get to lose more. You see, gambling addicts come through different reasons and the reason matters to how the infestation level would be on individual gamblers. If the reason is so deeply rooted in it, there might be no willpower for the addict to say no anymore, neither would it work if you advise such a person unless they find external help from professionals or just got lucky enough to secure a better job that pays them well and/or take their time and attention away from gambling.

Family support means to support the addicted member by taking care of them and following what professionals say to how to take care of them. so they can recover from that addiction.
but if family members will try methods like you said, turning of the electricity. that can cause intense anger to the player because what if he was martingaling? he will think I lost half of the money because of electricity.
I think this should be asked to professionals which is free on many online platforms and gamble aware forums.

In my opinion, simple advice like “Stop playing, you’ll soon go crazy with your games!”  completely useless.  The player is simply in a state of excitement and euphoria from the game and will completely ignore such comments. 
But, for example, turning off the electricity throughout the house while such a gambling player is playing on a PC, deliberately done by one of his family members, will cause anger and even temporary madness of such a player if he realizes that this was done intentionally.  This is also a bad option for helping to overcome gambling addiction in the initial stages.  So the family members are wondering what else can be done to help such a gambler overcome his addiction. 

Perhaps you know interesting original ways?
But then write them here in the topic.  Perhaps they will be useful to someone.

That's a really weird way to go about someone who is gambling and has addiction problem. No doubt that advice is like a total waste of time but I still prefer other method than allowing the person to  gamble away and get stuck because in the process like you said he might do some dangerous and unthinkable things just to achieve his addiction urge and you allowing him to do so is really not the best way to go about it.

It is very difficult to advise someone who is addicted to playing gambling, because many of their friends or family will ignore them so they don't continue playing gambling, even though they use various methods, that person still continues to do it, the only one The way to do this is to wait for the person to experience financial difficulties in order to give a deterrent effect, but there will be something crazy that he will do in the future, even though it will be a big problem for himself, it is better to let him get into a big problem than to waste his words trying to advise him.

When it comes to staking, it wont be that much effective considering that unstaking option is really that available so its pointless.If there would really be some lock ups then you can really make yourself that prohibit for you to play but as long you do know that you do still have other money source then you would really be just basically be trying out to play again and again as long your gambling urge and interest would be there
then stopping cant be possible.It would really be just that depending on how you do treat gambling whether it is really just that for the sake of fun and entertainment or you are already that making things
to be some source of income. Once you do get yourself that addicted then getting out of it would really be that so hard, this is why you should really be that careful in the first place on this case.

It is very rare that people listen to others when it comes to this as they will feel judged, and they will think that you are overstepping their boundaries by doing something like this, so even if you were correct on your observations about their gambling habits, you can bet they will continue to gamble as usual, and even if at some point they realize they had a problem you can be sure they will not remember that you tried to help them before things got out of control.

Many people would disagree with that, this is simply not true.


You're right, might be a good thing they've changed it but until recently they've literally done as described here, allowing anyone to register with an instant link, 0 details to be provided, could easily gamble 5 digits with no questions asked. Let's see how the new site would operate. Hopefully it would be more "responsible" than what it is but no one knows yet.

If you're a gambler, then control and manage how you're gambling before it get worse to the extreme stage, also, if you're privileged to see someone gambling in the wrong direction, take it a responsibility to call them into order, some things were better done or dealt with in the early stage before they got worsened, having desires for gambling is not getting yourself harmed by gambling because if ignorance or lack of self control while gambling, the gambling platforms will not control you, it's your own responsibility to do so for yourself.

Yes, that's exactly what it is, there won't be any accusations because they are Pinnacle clones, Pinnacle supposedly doesn't limit winners but use "sharp bettors" to adjust lines and more (adjusting means instead of paying 1.95 they can pay 1.90 and still get the same action but save themselves 5%).

It shouldn't come to you as a surprise that sportsbooks or gambling sites play it dirty, look at what Drama Alert shared yesterday, it has gotten over 4 million views and it's only increasing... just a few hours ago it was 2 million views:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-stake-playing-fair-what-about-others-where-is-the-line-of-trust-here-5480777

You can't trust these establishments, this is why you need to have the control within you from your end, and don't rely on others! That's the purpose of this thread.

If you do try to understand the sentence about in between stable coins and other crypto then it wouldnt matter on which as long whats available then you would really be simply stake those amounts.
If you do see that stablecoins are the only available on which you can stake then you could really make out those conversions if you are really that serious on staking those funds just for the sake
on avoiding for you to play with gambling but if not then you wouldnt care as you could really be able to play again on the money that you do have. Some sites do offer exclusions on which there would neither be a duration or would be completely deleted or prohibiting you on playing but since creating new account would be so damn easy then this is why i can say that
self exclusions are really that useless or not really that effective at all.

There are gamblers who just thinks that they can commit into stop doing gambling but the next day, they will play again as they can't control themselves. There are days that gamblers are sure that they will stop doing gambling to the point that they withdraw their money from the casino. With this, gamblers can stake their money with no choice but to wait for their money even if they change their mind into playing again. The gamblers will have time to reflect if they are ready to commit into quitting gambling with this way.

Though there are downsides to this, if a gambler is desperate to gamble again, I'm sure that he will deposit with another money just to gamble again. Though I believe that this staking method is a good option that gambler that want to quit.

Fairlay registration function is close for a long time unless they open it recently or provide other way to access their site just like what you said. Can you provide where can I access that instant link feature?

I try to click one of their bets offered and it still needs to still create an account which is non functional now. Besides, There’s a terms on this casino stated “When registering, you’ll may have to provide certain identifying information”.

I’m pertaining to fairlay.com

really ? Fairlay allows everything you mentioned? but asking nothing for the player will
serve really fair? is there no accusation  in regards to blocking account or banning?because this is mostly
what happened when the casino is complete private .

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Going back to the topic why instead of self inclusion is Block that site so you will never
gonna play again? because self inclusions only makes you stay out for a while then may consider coming
back again in the future.

Pushing the button to start the staking is where the problem is at, remember that a heart that's filled with the excitement of gambling is already craving to gamble again, it would be different someone else is going to keep pushing that button, but the gambler will still have to make the decision.

I personally do not buy this idea because it depends on the gambler's mind, if he is serious on quitting gambling he or she will do this easily, but if he is the type that has weak mind he won't be able to lock away his money for long, even if he did it once, after the staking period is over he will surely use the fund to gamble.

Like you said, staking is a big problem if you are not using stable coin, because alternative coins are highly volatile, they can lose value so much that when you unstake your whole bag will be worthless, this is the only bad side of staking alts.

Fairlay.
They allow you to register with an "instant link", no email, no name, no phone, not even a password required.

Their limits are high.
And they are just 1 example.

There are many more, unfortunately.