Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 34. (Read 6797 times)

So if you find a way to help other people and it involves a video you're not allowed to post it? How about this guy Jacob from Vegas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUR5LBO3ttM

153k views, he truly helps people in this video by explaining how they can get upgrades for free! Is that a bad thing? So he promotes his channel along the way. So what - people get value on the same time.

Now regarding your claim not providing a "real advice" to gaming addicts, how about you read outside of Bitcointalk from real addicts?

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/crypto-casinos-and-self-exclusion.98853/

Quotes from CasinoMeister:

"This is the one main drawback for Cryptos - many dont run KYC and so even if a person runs SE - (some do offer this ) its a token gesture as a person can re-sign up instantly with different email / IP. The only real way for a problem gambler to combat this would be by cutting off the source - e.g getting your bank to block crypto"

"I still think that crypto casinos have a social and moral obligation to offer help or support where needed, as we all do, but only one or two I know of seem to offer some kind of responsible gambling advice or program."

"As much as I love the idea of crypto and decentralisation, the space attracts criminals, scammers and the sort of people who don't care about how they affect other people."

"Yes, this is a huge minus, totally agree."

This is just one thread among many, you're welcome to look at Reddit, PsychicForums and basically do your own reasearch before you accuse people for not providing a real advice. Maybe you're the one who's contributing nothing to this thread, so save your opinion to yourself.

Most of the gambling platforms have got the self exclusion feature. This can be used of our own or we can reach the support team who does it for us. Later whenever we want to make a return we can request the support team and they'll allow us to gamble. This is really good feature when you want a break from gambling.

There's no such thing specially having those self exclusion would really be that relevant or something that would really be effective against into those gambling addicts on which you would really be playing and finding yourself do come back and forth on playing gambling as long you do have a get a hold of your funds. If you've been locked or blocked then you could really just that simply find another place on which you could really be able to play on on which it would really be just that so normal that you wont really be something that cant be stopped as long you do have the funds.
Self control would be crucial and something that it is really needed but we know that not all would really be having that kind of control and discipline towards themselves
and this is why they would really be ending up on a disaster.

It's a very interesting idea, and you can do a similar thing with USDT on some blockchains and layer2 networks by using a smart contract loking your funds. You can even doing it with Bitcoin by sending your funds to another address and using the LockTime feature from the BTC protocol available on most wallets. You can also put your funds into a 2-of-2 multisig wallet and give the other private key to someone you trust, like your partner, a relative or a good friend and tell them to only give you back the key after one given date unless an emergency happens.

I guess this is how it looks when you really "self-exclude yourself" from gambling... just move all your money away from yourself, into some locked service, or anyway far from yourself.  But what makes self-exclusion really efficient is that you have your money with you, but you decide to not spend it on gambling... that is a powerful mind. It's never easy to stop with something that is deep inside us, but there are ways to beat the force that drives us to do some "wrong" things.

In the end, I believe that self-exclusion works far better than some casino exclusions... if we are not ready to give up some things, nothing else can help!

A lot of time,  most of the challenges faced by a few gamblers who may have experienced some form of addictive forces due to uncontrollable gambling habits and much more also how they choose to handle the gambling activities and the amount they are willing to stake at whatever point in time,  many of them have failed to apply that formula to apply caution, self-control is a highly needed and at some point the only way out is to apply that caution when we have that self-control can determine what we expect from our actions and how best we follow them,  setting a path to follow and limits to how much you stake at some point is something that requires individual determinations.

But if we can still go further to implement a wallet that gives us some form of control which we can set how much we spend in a week and exceeding that amount will be unavailable,  that also will help us with an extra layer of control over how much we bet with.

The problem with other people is the maintenance of their self-control.  Many gambler are one-day responsible gambler and the next day can't control themselves.  Locking fund simply maintain their gambling exclusion for them.

Although there is a risk for a third party lacking our funds, but it make sure that the fund can't be used for gambling for a certain period of time, and that keeps us from gambling during the time when the fund is locked.

It is easy to say self-control but many of us here often times lose it specially when we are triggered by the game.

The last method is the only one that will work, trying to control ourselves by using an external source is never going to fully work, it may work for a time, but if the desire to gamble becomes too intense then at some point that person will stop staking or locking their coins and they will gamble with them, so it is way better to gain the inner strength needed to control ourselves, since anyone that truly wants to achieve this goal should be able to do so without too much of a problem.

It's not about gamblers not liking this idea, it's about people who know well not liking the whole idea. When you are doing a lock staking in centralized platforms, you lose all the privacy and control over your assets. Also just because you keep someone away from doing something doesn't mean that he won't do it again when he get the chance. He will sit down eagerly for the day to come when those coins will be unlocked and he will be able to gamble again. Isn't that more risky?

If you want to quit gambling it has to come from inside of you. Your willingness to quit the gambling will lead you to success. You cannot force yourself by doing something if you don't have the will to do it in the first place. And the idea you provided not only put our assets and risk also it might not help the way you explained it should.

I pink I prefer these option of self exclusion. For anyone who is not technical sticking you using the atomic wallet may be quite interesting and discouraging because of the amount of time the person needs to invest in knowing how to sell exclude. A month easier option is what you have talked about we choose learning self control. With self control you can tell yourself, I am off for this period of time and that is it.

I don't knowmmhch about this atomic wallet but I don't think is one of the best wallet to use and gamble looking at so many things to consider like the decentralized futures we can use to stake and other things too. I don't think atomic wallet is better than trust wellet and the use of mate mask which is a quite better wallets than the atomic wallet. If we have plans to stop gambling or reduce the way we are gambling, it is better we make use of others ways to reduce our gambling habit.

Agree with this mate we are all know that once a gambler don't have money  then he can minimize his gamble cause like what you said no money no problems. But in some country like here in mine there are a lot of addict who actually do bad things in order to play in thier addicted game. Which is some addict stealing other things it else they will rubbing some store in order to have enough money to gamble which pretty bad at all.

Yes, and this is why the OP post this, to give a tip to those who are addicted in gambling. I think this is a fresh and cool tip, so I just wanna thank the OP for sharing this. Now if you think you have no problems in gambling whatsoever, then feel free to not follow it but you might still be doing it if your goal is only to earn more coins in the form of staking. Stable coins are a good option because they are not fluctuating in value. Other cryptos can fluctuate but it also helps you to earn more on them sometimes.

So, they still have an advantage. Also the OP already mentioned that Atomic wallet and maybe other wallets are the same who are not supporting stable coins for staking. 21 days of staking is actually too short. Normally staking can run for a couple of months and the longest can run for a couple of years.

Exactly. These strategies do help to some extent, but won't solve their problems completely. The only way that their addiction issues can be minimised is through improving their self-control.

It's truly easier said than done, but it's worth improving for plenty of reasons(Not just gambling addiction).

OP clearly created the topic to promote his YouTube channel, and not to provide real advice to gaming addicts. If we consider the problem like other addictions - drug addiction, alcoholism, then nothing prevents the addicted player from “pawning” his crypto wallet (seed phrase) to any interested person/pawnshop. There is only one way out: no money - no problems.

Even if they learn staking and do it to keep them 21 days away from gambling  but how sure we are that they will not look for another funds to gambling and deposit ?  because there are some gamblers that wanted to keep their funds safer from gambling but cannot prevent themselves to gamble and keeps looking for chance and money to bet.

Another drawback of this method is that Atomic Wallet is not trustable in the first place as there have been recent problems with this wallet. So i would not recommend anyone to use Atomic Wallet for staking, Yes they can do staking on other wallets too.

Also if you think that a person has no control over his emotions to restrict himself from gambling, then i am afraid he cannot stay away from gambling even if he put his fund in locked staking. Of course, you cannot put all your money in staking, the one left with you without staking, you will still use that money to gamble.

I think this is more of a mind game, where if you are serious, you won't put more money into gambling, even if it is not staked or locked. One needs to be strong enough that he does not require external restrictions to prevent his money from gambling.

that is the bad part of it , yeah you have saved your self from gambling but you are also preventing your self to spend in other special thing or important matter.

so there is still a negative effect on this and if that said gambler can find money outside this staking meaning he can still gamble and that funds on staking will just be a Holding for a while.


well , that is gambling .. we will keep looking for money to gamble so better to learn to control your self than trusting staking because it is not even a 70% solution .

I guess it's that time for them to learn something new then, sure it's unnecessary if they have a decent self-control but the point is that at the very least they've got an option on how they should do things and you can't really say it's a great option and then the next thing you say that it's unnecessary, that's contradictory.

Exactly same point in mine mate , Addicted gamblers will keep looking for funds to gamble so no matter how they try locking their existing funds in staking/Unstaking yet they will generate another funds when they felt wanting to gamble and deposit to another gambling site , so what I wanted to include is that the best way to self exclude ourself from gambling is our own Willingness and dedication because no one can make us stop but our self and our own only.

We have also notice those gamblers that blames gambling sites because of their self exclusions but eventually can still create account and play again and that same manner applies here.

Once they make way to gain or find money , will always find way to gamble either Online or Physical , gamblers will gamble.
the best way is to accept to themselves that they wanted to stop and try finding help from family and friends and some professionals .