Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 31. (Read 6573 times)

As far as i know, if we ever come to a stage where even mixers have to start requesting kyc verification from their prospective customers, then their entire purpose is completely defeated, since the only reason why people use mixers is for privacy matters, and immediately mixers introduce kyc, then that purpose is totally defeated since there is a 100 percent chances that they will also be sharing the kyc details of their customers to or with the government as soon as they request for it.

And speaking about mixers surviving without kyc, i don't mean to sound pessimistic but I see this not ever happening as along as the government continue to tackle and go far them, and needless mention or say that, if we ever get to a stage where crypto users have to pass kyc verification before they use a mixers, of what sense does it make? It's better to just use a normal wallet and transfer your fund since it doesn't make any difference, based on my personal view.

Of course, gambling can't be as bad as it seems and more reason I caution those who are preaching fear that people should run away from gambling after their first bet people they might lose afterwards, which is bad. Let me start by saying that people who are gambling do not know gambling itself, they are just forcing themselves into playing it mostly because they believe there are opportunities to make money from it, but it will rather punish such people if this is the case. Gambling must be known, and a working and earning system must be devised from it for the gambler to make money. Just like your friends, they must have known their pattern of gambling and what works best for them. This explains why some people can do you harm if you tell them not to gamble again simply because it's their way of making money.

Also, about mine, I know my pattern of gambling that makes money for me and it surprises my friends when they see my betting slips and don't believe it's possible. But that is the reality. These guys might even know how to gamble more than me, but I am working with some kind of expertise and smartness more than them which makes me unique about mine. But still, to gamble is never by force and it will never be suitable for everybody, which is why you do not have to push it too hard if it is not working for you. This is why we can't be entirely justified in our advice for others here since no matter how some people try, they can't win consistently in gambling. Such people can either turn their reason for gambling to a fun-filled avenue and gamble with little money while it entertains them. Or find the means to excuse themselves from it if it's becoming an obvious issue for them.

Which mixer requires KYC? As far as I can tell, mixers are still trying their best to survive without asking for KYC from their customers, going as far as using Monero and so on. Probably won't last that long, unless they don't plan on dealing with US customers with IP filters or something similar.

Just keep in mind that higher staking rewards likely mean higher risk, especially if you're not really locking your funds on the blockchain. For example, staking your BTC on exchange basically means allowing the exchange to use your money for whatever they wanted to, and there's no guarantee it will return to your hands with no problem.

KYC will be required to all casino sooner or later , like what happened in Mixing company , Casino site is also a place where Laundering is happening and the government will always against that so in time casino will be the next target.

but since OP is talking about using the funds as staking then there are lot of wallet /exchange that offers even more or bigger staking percentage.
so OP just need to find what is better and what is suitable for her.

Unfortunately it's not easy to define which amount of funds you can afford to lose, because it's a very subjective thing. Losing $2000 in 2 weeks it's not the same thing as losing them in 2 hours. And even if it's not critical for your budget, you will feel bad to have lost such amount for nothing. And then you can start to feel like it's a big loss of money you could use for something else and you can't accept it.

That's true; most casinos now actually require kyc, and from what I can see, other gamblers are gradually accepting to just submit kyc instead of having problems withdrawing their funds from their frequent gambling.

Now if we are going to use non-custodial wallets, there are only three that can be said to be good for me: metamask, trustwallet, and keplr, depending on what each individual wants from what I mentioned.

Can we stay on the topic please ? because this topic is for Self excluding and not about your
sentiments about gambling opportunity and advantages , so lets work on how we can help other gamblers to be safe
in their activities at least in short time that they will not spend a single amount , that would be a big time for them
to have a thinking to what must be the next step and may consider resting longer from gambling when they are
free from betting?

thats two best thing also to lock the funds and completely have no chance to withdraw for a certain time.

So what are you saying is that locking your funds to stake to avoid using it in gambling sites. I personally think that was a good idea, a similar idea is having a ledger and stake your coins inside the ledger (As they have a feature like that) in that way, it would be hard for you to deposit or use your wallet because:

1. You need to physically plug your Ledger and manually open it (which is very hassle)
2. You also need to manually approve transactions within the ledger

The only thing I am not sure is that whether there's something like locked stake features like in Atomic wallet or not. The benefits you can get from this method is that you'll not lose your money to gambling but earning more instead with staking (Not unless the crypto crashes).

How they say that ideas are telepathic!

While you're busy brainstorming on a particular thought in another part of the world, same time, another person who assesses that same frequency of thought is assessing the same idea also, the variation is just standpoints based on experience which is characterised by usage.

Similar idea dropped in my head but its on the Eth chain. Using smart contract lock feature regularly used on lp pool to lock your funds for a period of time.

Currently, I don't see the existence of a dedicated lock application for crypto in particular wallets

Of course, there are people who will addicted, but possibly to anything to be honest: videogames, sitcoms, gambling, tobacco, other stuff... but that does not mean that it cannot be controlled by following some steps but it is the will of the people that matters and people rarely take the first step which is accepting that they are not fully in control of some stuff.

If you will avail such service, you really have to consider the reputation of the decentralized platform.
Because those staking days, they got a hold of your tokens/funds, so you can't do anything if something goes wrong in their site.
Some licensed casinos though are offering such feature, but if you are very determined with this move, you can already implement it on yourself.

But these decentralized gambling platform does not have a license to operate making our funds somehow more risk of losing, or the gambling platform running away with our funds or not allowing anyone to withdraw.

Enjoying privacy by playing on an unregistered platform or decentralized platform that is not "operating legally" may give us more trouble.  So better be careful when choosing to play in unregistered decentralized gambling platform.  Who knows when they will turn rogue and run with our money?

Anyway, whether the casino is known or anonymous, self exclusion can be done by anyone by simply quitting gambling and avoiding them for a certain period of time.  There is no need to lock our fund, it is more on self-discipline and control.

There are decentralized gambling platforms as well that does not require for KYC, i think they can be the best to be used in achieving something about privacy or being anonymous in using a gambling platform, just that most gamblers were too used to the KYC casinos, i don't think if casinos wallet in general terms were all not anonymous wallets that we can use for our privacy or we should go far away from them.

Someone who wants to do this for Bitcoin is probably better off learning how to use the timelock function. I just saw this thread talking about an easy way to timelock which is somewhat dated (2020/last verified around 2021) though seems to be a working method. It also seems safer than trusting Trust Wallet (Binance) or Atomic Wallet (not the cleanest reputation) with your coins by staking with them.

When it comes on making use of those staking as your way of self excluding yourself then it would be your choice but we know that not all staking set up or terms would really be that the same on which
there are ones who do have that anytime unlock period on which it would really be just that normal that there would be deductions. For those people or gamblers who had been wary for these different
staking terms and conditions then they wont really be that choosing into those who do have some lock up, unless if you are really that tending or having plans of this one in the first place then
its up to someones choice on which it isnt really that a bad option or kind of choice on having that self lock up of funds on trying to combat addiction.

Somewhat it would really be still that pointless if we do speak on trying out to solve out that addiction.Why? There would really be a specific time that you would
really be finding yourself that trying to look for another options on which you could really be able to play anytime that you do want.This is why
it would be pointless as long you do have that kind of intent on mind.

Every Decentralized Wallet dApp provides option to browse from there you can connect the wallet to any web3 site and transact there with full privacy you can use Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet, Metamusk and any other Decentralized Wallet. So far gambling platforms are mostly run on centralized platforms. so you will rarely see web3 casino sites in the market. Because of this no matter which wallet you use you must create one now on their casino site and perform KYC as required. So in this case no wallet can make you anonymous

That's true, because they won't see anyone face to face and it's easier to talk to a stranger and admit that you're experiencing gambling problems than to someone you know personally.

You just can't trust someone you know personally to handle your problems or just by telling it to them so that you have someone on your back to assist you.

I think that we change based on the environment that we are in. We're not just comfortable to talk about it in real life and easier to talk it with some random forum members about the problem.

Though, I don't know if this has happened to you. But I have got the impression people on the internet are more ready to admit they are addicted to gambling or they have some sort of issue/problem than those I see face to face in real life buying tickets to play animal roulette or other games.
Even here in the forum I have see people to openly admit they have a problem with gambling and they are trying to work on it. It makes me wonder if those same people one see around on the internet would also admit their problems to others outside of the internet.
I guess it has something to do with the pseudo-anonymous feeling many of them have to admit their problems to strangers, in comparison to swallow their pride and say the same thing to their friends and family members. How knows? People can behave in strange ways when comes to struggling to addictions, there is no doubt about it...

Stopping gambling? Not everyone knows the characteristics of gambling but I'm quite aware of those gamblers that place wagers on games, winning becomes so easy as long as you have a steady paying income, they just understands it's easy to grabbed significant opportunities and work on measures to tap out profits and reduce our losses. A profession is important for all being, it must be paying and earning from top grade to medium grades. Gambling is not bad as it seems, we have couple of gamblers that are top-notch in their profession, gambling is just extra job for us to start earning and producing change.

Yeah, it's just a temporary solution but maybe with the period that's set on the staking could give him sometime to reflect that he should just leave and forget about gambling.

A strategy that can help someone but might not do to the most.

I agree, they're unlikely to admit that they're problem gamblers and that's the hardest part when they can't accept that they're now part of the problem and needs some solution to it.