Topic: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites - page 35. (Read 6573 times)

Read post #16 in this thread, it would answer your question.

What is to do with anonymous gambling website as per the subject line?

Impulsive gamblers cannot be stopped this way. They will always find the way to gamble. This method will only work if someone is willing to give up gambling. Otherwise it is better to see medical help for an impulsive Gambler.

There are many ways to stake your coins. Not sure why you have only mentioned about atomic wallet!

This is a very good option that allows to make a right choice for some user in certain cases. I however would recommend to use this as part of a set of tools to complement with your own personal introspection and understanding of these sites and what they mean to you. I think that it brings more benefits than actually trying to solve it by using just technological means.

I will also assume that am hearing something called anonymous gambling for the very first time, what comes my mind was the idea that or can gamble and also make use of the safety privacy gambling practice to connect his wallet to the gambling platform or make use of a decentralized crypto gambling platform, but anyway, this is going to be another means for learning each day about gambling and some of its anonymous sites.

Not every website.


Stake might offer it which is great, but many other sites don't.
For example - Fairlay - has a very high limit for bets, especially on US sports, and you can easily bet there $5,000 - $20,000 on a game there, even more.

Now let's talk hypothetically, take this all as some hypothetical case scenario, not necessarily a reality but still:

Take someone who doesn't want to spend that much on US sports, so he is banned from Stake because they self-excluded him but he cannot ban himself from Fairlay.

What does he do? Contact Fairlay? They won't help him. These guys have an instant link registration, 100% anonymous, 0 details about yourself, not even an email.

And this is just 1 example. Might be tons of other sites out there.

Okay, so if you save your money in your bank account you can't use it with a site like Fairlay, you might be able to use it with your own local website e.g. if you are UK based then Ladbrokes, William Hill etc. - these sites do offer proper protection and are proeprly regulated.

However,

Say you save your money in Crypto, you got $15,000 USDT and you don't want to be tempted to gamble it away - whether it's Fairlay, trading, Binance, day trading - there are lots of way to lose money these days, do you agree about that?

So there you have it - that's a solution that works, because your money is locked away from you.

It's not only for gamblers, but for traders, or anyone with small or big addiction - you arrest the addiction by taking what you're feeding it with away from it - that's how many gamblers made better lives for themselves - by arresting their addiction - this is just 1 example.

Does it help to improve self control? Oh yeah, for sure, you would only make better decisions moving forward by not acting swiftly and carelessly and thinking about the money locked away much more than simply handing it over as if it was a piece of paper worth nothing.

You are right. What if someone becuase he does not want to gamble with his money, he staked his coins and bear market begins. The person may significantly lose when the thinks he is going to gain.

You can not staked stable coins on noncustodial wallet.

I consider this supposed anonymity to be stressing for someone like me that is  of a good gambling behaviour and still have my elf control intact towards gambling. What if in a situation of a life threatening emergency arising that demands urgent need of money to get things done ASAP - in that case this medium doesn't meet it. Just be self discipline and you are cool with how and when  you wanna spend money. Maybe gamblers suffering from addictive tendency could make use of it and see how they benefits from it, save themself some unscrupulous gambling losses.

This is just too assuming that you can't control yourself and that you'd eventually lose your coins through gambling. Not everyone is addicted to it. Just try not to gamble, you don't even need to stake your coins.

But it does make sense if you wanna a guarantee to make money, staking stablecoins will be a good option. But 21 days seem too much. I would stay away from that.

Time lock does not mean anything, you can have access to your coins at anytime. Time lock is not on blockchain, which means the transaction was not broadcasted at all.

This is just the best for me. But when I staked my coins, I was unable to use it for anything, it is also a good idea.

Are you sure you want to trust a wallet that is not open source? I mean that is completely up to you but that goes against the transparency that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies stand for. At that point you might as well put your money on a CEX wallet and hope for the best. Ironically, I do not trust a wallet named "Trustwallet".

But it is true that Trustwallet gives a decentralized option, unlike the Atomic wallet, which is not what I would call decentralized.



I agree that you could simply lock your coins up so that you cannot get to them. That is a good method. But at some point, you are going to get them back. Will you be able to withhold yourself from gambling with them at that future point in time?

This is a great option for gamblers interested in self-exclusion op. Problem here is that most crypto gamblers don't really know much about staking which is why they might avoid this particular solution.

All these solutions are unnecessary if the gamblers themselves had decent self-control, but that is usually not the case thanks to greed, selfishness etc.

I do not think we can be totally anonymous on this but rather “pseudonymous” due to the transparency of the blockchain itself (unless you are using Monero of course as it is more private and anonymous).

I say that the gambling platform would be fully decentralized if the platform itself does not have custody of our coins and tokens such as it only needs you to connect your Web3 wallet like the Trust Wallet.

But there are KYC-less online casino platforms which doesn’t support connecting Web3 wallets but rather using traditional login types like email and has 2FA (Google Authenticator) feature, but I do not define them as fully decentralized as they have control of the minimum deposit and withdrawals of our funds there.  

I was actually expecting an entirely different thing when I was opening the link but I ended up with n entirely different story but I think the story is more of helping us build self control for gamblers and I think it isn’t ramparts in casinos because they also need more gamblers to play on their casinos and having such features is more like contradicting the profit process but I think this feature is more beneficial to gamblers and the casino

I think right now on every website.

You can setup self-exclude by timer. Example on (Stake) you can set-up by one month self exclude after one month your account will be unlocked again. If people can't handle with short-term hold.

I think they have a really big problem, need to take care their self.

Without kyc, deposits from any decentralized wallet to the casino site will remain completely confidential.  In this case, atomic wallet, trust wallet with electrum, Coinomi all these wallets will be effective. But in this case it must be sure that you have not done KYC verification on the casino site or you are using a decentralized casino site. Because if you do KYC at the casino site, no matter where you deposit from, your privacy will never be maintained because your documents will be on that casino site.

If you are really eager to exclude yourself from gambling then the first step you need to do is stop visiting the gambling section of this forum. Since you will stop seeing a lot of promotion so for sure it can lower down your interest to gamble. Also you can make yourself busy on other things like focusing on investment since for this for sure you will never think about gambling but rather you will just find new things that can possibly give you some profit like investing on new alts or trade with the crypto you want to follow.

Doing what you mention could possibly exclude yourself to gamble but for sure you can still receive another funds and if you can't do anything with it for sure you would still think about to gamble since you might get bored for not doing anything.

OP I do not see anything anonymous in your post as captured in your topic. This makes me to ask you this same question. Can you list the anonymous gambling sites so we could know them or you just used the word for the topic so as to get attention to your thread.

In the absence of using time lock as stated by you, one can exercise self restraint and discipline from gambling if one must stop gambling because locking of your assets does not guarantee that one can stop gambling besides one have money which they can easily use to buy crypto if the urge to gamble without control comes up. So this option of locking up your assets I think can not really stop one from gambling but rather self discipline and restraint if one truly wants to stop gambling.

I don't understand what's anonymous gambling sites have to do with your post.

The another alternative is using time lock, you can lock your coins how long you want.

Or the best solution is to learn about self control without need to use any tool that could give drawbacks of hack, urgent need, human mistake etc.

Instead of Atomic wallet, Trustwallet can be used. Trustwallet gives decentralized option while Atomic wallet has its own validator. Trustwallet has many validators and atomic wallet is part of them if they support the staked coin.

I prefer to use Keplr wallet which has been the best that I know. If the wallet support a coin that I want to stake, I prefer the wallet even than Trustwallet.

I can understand you, because gamblers would be discouraged to unstake their coins because the unstaking period can take up to a week or more.

You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.