How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? - page 19.

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Quote from: rxw on July 20, 2012, 02:05:28 PM

Mike I was wondering if you had any thoughts on my latest revision?

It is a start but not very competitive as compared to the currently nominated candidates and still spends a lot of ink on turning white paper red (and grey) without much dazzle to show for it. I think like others are saying, it's a start, but would need much more work to be a serious contender.

Even Psy's note contains a lot of yellow in its background, but once converted to vector, if the yellow background were to be dropped out, the substance of the work is still there. On yours, if the red gradient were dropped out, very little is left.

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Mike I was wondering if you had any thoughts on my latest revision?

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Quote from: casascius on July 20, 2012, 01:54:19 PM

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Quote from: casascius on July 20, 2012, 01:38:55 PM

Adobe software has a downloadable 7 day free trial mode FWIW

There is a Photoshop CS5 for Linux? Huh

Not to my knowledge, just Mac and Windows, but if it's to host a throwaway trial, there should have no problem with a throwaway copy of Windows 7 in a VM? (it runs for 30 days without a serial number as well). The only pain being the time it takes to install it, but installing from ISO files on a hard drive tends to go pretty fast in my experience.

Installing a VM is not the problem. Running a win7 VM with enough RAM for Photoshop and deal with high res files on a Dual-Core 2.4Ghz with 4GB RAM would be the main problem.
Better wait till sunday, when she gets back. Wink

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 01:51:13 PM

Quote from: casascius on July 20, 2012, 01:38:55 PM

Adobe software has a downloadable 7 day free trial mode FWIW

There is a Photoshop CS5 for Linux? Huh

Not to my knowledge, just Mac and Windows, but if it's to host a throwaway trial, there should have no problem with a throwaway copy of Windows 7 in a VM? (it runs for 30 days without a serial number as well). The only pain being the time it takes to install it, but installing from ISO files on a hard drive tends to go pretty fast in my experience.

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 01:51:13 PM

Quote from: casascius on July 20, 2012, 01:38:55 PM

Adobe software has a downloadable 7 day free trial mode FWIW

There is a Photoshop CS5 for Linux? Huh

No there isn't. AFAIK Inkscape and GIMP are your best choices.

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Quote from: casascius on July 20, 2012, 01:38:55 PM

Adobe software has a downloadable 7 day free trial mode FWIW

There is a Photoshop CS5 for Linux? Huh

Even when I used windows I never installed Trial versions when I didn't intended to buy the software. Too may crap installed. Now make it an Adobe product and the crap is endless. I didn't even used Adobe Reader because it had the nasty habit of running the auto-updater even when I disabled it Wink

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 01:24:02 PM

She exported it as an EPS... No luck. It was pixelated when she opened the EPS on Illustrator. Also, opening the PSD on Illustrator flattened all the layers into one, not sure why.

I already have most of the layers converted to SVG. Only a matter of converting the rest of them and compose the design again on Inkscape or Illustrator, but my hands are tied right now as she went out for the weekend and I don't have Photoshop, or else I would continue working on vectorizing the remaining elements.
Not even going to try and open the PSD on GIMP as I'm sure there will be something missing in there, as usual.

Sounds like you have it under control. Let me know if you need help with Illustrator stuff. I am not an artist but I know how to use the tools

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She exported it as an EPS... No luck. It was pixelated when she opened the EPS on Illustrator. Also, opening the PSD on Illustrator flattened all the layers into one, not sure why.

I already have most of the layers converted to SVG. Only a matter of converting the rest of them and compose the design again on Inkscape or Illustrator, but my hands are tied right now as she went out for the weekend and I don't have Photoshop, or else I would continue working on vectorizing the remaining elements.
Not even going to try and open the PSD on GIMP as I'm sure there will be something missing in there, as usual.

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 01:04:07 PM

Quote from: unclemantis on July 20, 2012, 12:45:01 PM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 10:44:17 AM

The PSD file is available to download @ http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/07/20/bitcoin-note-design-psd-file/

That is the designer personal blog. The post was written by me because she's not very good with english, hence why I was also the one posting the work here and transmitting her the messages.

Show her your love by leaving a comment there and maybe a tip on her Bitcoin address. I'm sure she'll appreciate it.

Mike, anything you need retouched on the design, just ask. I explained her the conditions imposed for the reward and she fully accepts them Wink

Have fun printing some money! Grin

EDIT: Almost forgot. The green note PSD will be posted also, after the weekend.

Downloading now. 30MB and still going! Little big to be 100 percent vector.

EDIT: 45.3MB zipped 165 MB for the Photoshop file alone. There are other asset files included but WOW!

EDIT: WOW! Ran out of memory and caused chrome to crash. NOT COOL!

EDIT: I think I will wait for the SVG file. I will be sure to tip her once I have my wallet open

It was made on a lousy laptop with 4GB RAM and having at least Firefox and instant messengers open. Not sure how it crashed your PC. lol
People should take into account it's a 300 dpi 5000px wide image.

PSY do you need help converting it to an EPS file? I can't help with the SVG but I can at least help make the transision from PSD Raster to SVG smoother.

let me know.

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Quote from: unclemantis on July 20, 2012, 12:45:01 PM

Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 10:44:17 AM

The PSD file is available to download @ http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/07/20/bitcoin-note-design-psd-file/

That is the designer personal blog. The post was written by me because she's not very good with english, hence why I was also the one posting the work here and transmitting her the messages.

Show her your love by leaving a comment there and maybe a tip on her Bitcoin address. I'm sure she'll appreciate it.

Mike, anything you need retouched on the design, just ask. I explained her the conditions imposed for the reward and she fully accepts them Wink

Have fun printing some money! Grin

EDIT: Almost forgot. The green note PSD will be posted also, after the weekend.

Downloading now. 30MB and still going! Little big to be 100 percent vector.

EDIT: 45.3MB zipped 165 MB for the Photoshop file alone. There are other asset files included but WOW!

EDIT: WOW! Ran out of memory and caused chrome to crash. NOT COOL!

EDIT: I think I will wait for the SVG file. I will be sure to tip her once I have my wallet open

It was made on a lousy laptop with 4GB RAM and having at least Firefox and instant messengers open besides Photoshop CS5. Not sure how it crashed your PC. lol I would test it in mine, which has the same specs as hers, but I use Ubuntu, so, no Photoshop for me Tongue

People should take into account it's a 300 dpi 5000px wide image.

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Quote from: teflone on July 20, 2012, 11:46:02 AM

I just think a bitcoin note should stand for itself.. no people.. I think it would detract from people taking it seriously, I specially dont like the turing one because the picture is of a young boy it looks like..

Also the people are too prominent in the design.. these should be their own identity, not just reproducing what people expect see on a typical FIAT note... This is not fiat...

I think it should be designed with math in mind, numbers, shapes... ect..

I asked 8 people at work, who is Alan Turing.. only one knew.. sad but true.. (I work in IT/Banking)

A bitcoin note may not be fiat, but my understanding of this project was that the notes might be used and accepted like fiat. The simplest way to make this transition in peoples' minds is to have the notes be familiar, not alien-looking.

How much does George Washington have to with how the modern American economy works? And... who's on the one dollar bill?

If you claimed to be a computer scientist and said you didn't know who Alan Turing was, you would probably be cock-slapped in the face. Besides, I guarantee you I didn't know who Alexander Hamilton was when I got my first $10 bill. People will learn.

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on July 20, 2012, 10:44:17 AM

The PSD file is available to download @ http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/07/20/bitcoin-note-design-psd-file/

That is the designer personal blog. The post was written by me because she's not very good with english, hence why I was also the one posting the work here and transmitting her the messages.

Show her your love by leaving a comment there and maybe a tip on her Bitcoin address. I'm sure she'll appreciate it.

Mike, anything you need retouched on the design, just ask. I explained her the conditions imposed for the reward and she fully accepts them Wink

Have fun printing some money! Grin

EDIT: Almost forgot. The green note PSD will be posted also, after the weekend.

Downloading now. 30MB and still going! Little big to be 100 percent vector.

EDIT: 45.3MB zipped 165 MB for the Photoshop file alone. There are other asset files included but WOW!

EDIT: WOW! Ran out of memory and caused chrome to crash. NOT COOL!

EDIT: I think I will wait for the SVG file. I will be sure to tip her once I have my wallet open

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Quote from: teflone on July 20, 2012, 11:46:02 AM

I just think a bitcoin note should stand for itself.. no people.. I think it would detract from people taking it seriously, I specially dont like the turing one because the picture is of a young boy it looks like..

Also the people are too prominent in the design.. these should be their own identity, not just reproducing what people expect see on a typical FIAT note... This is not fiat...

I think it should be designed with math in mind, numbers, shapes... ect..

I asked 8 people at work, who is Alan Turing.. only one knew.. sad but true.. (I work in IT/Banking)

I agree with you about shapes and such, but IMO people not knowing who Turing is is a reason to put his face on the currency, not take it off.

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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB

I just think a bitcoin note should stand for itself.. no people.. I think it would detract from people taking it seriously, I specially dont like the turing one because the picture is of a young boy it looks like..

Also the people are too prominent in the design.. these should be their own identity, not just reproducing what people expect see on a typical FIAT note... This is not fiat...

I think it should be designed with math in mind, numbers, shapes... ect..

I asked 8 people at work, who is Alan Turing.. only one knew.. sad but true.. (I work in IT/Banking)

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Quote from: ildubbioso on July 20, 2012, 10:48:07 AM

In the Alan Turing one I cannot write the amount of BTC

Try this on for size!

Simple, like you'd find on a check. Little ink overhead. Tastefully placed :]

Updated PSD and full resolution posted to http://dropcanvas.com/jfp75

If you like my design, make sure to vote for it Wink

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In the Alan Turing one I cannot write the amount of BTC

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The PSD file is available to download @ http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/07/20/bitcoin-note-design-psd-file/

That is the designer personal blog. The post was written by me because she's not very good with english, hence why I was also the one posting the work here and transmitting her the messages.

Show her your love by leaving a comment there and maybe a tip on her Bitcoin address. I'm sure she'll appreciate it.

Mike, anything you need retouched on the design, just ask. I explained her the conditions imposed for the reward and she fully accepts them Wink

Have fun printing some money! Grin

EDIT: Almost forgot. The green note PSD will be posted also, after the weekend.

rxw

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Quote from: unclemantis on July 20, 2012, 09:23:47 AM

Quote from: rxw on July 20, 2012, 08:39:08 AM

Quote from: teflone on July 20, 2012, 12:26:06 AM

ugghhh..

The one with alan turing is horrible just because he's in it..

Avoid people..

And one up there has

Vires in numbers.. Is that correct ?

I think its supposed to be slightly diff...

2 of the 4 accepted already have people on them. Not only that, but one of those two has a quote by a person as well... why should people be excluded from our notes?

One of the points of my design was to make it seem like cash... hence the identical dimensions to a US dollar, and hence the large portrait of a person found on most currency (and Turing is a prime choice- he was important in the fields of computer science AND cryptography, both of which bitcoin is based in). Although bitcoin notes may not be carried around as often as regular cash (it's the currency of the INTERNET, after all), I still think it would be in our best interest to have them be similar to cash. I think it would be more likely to ease adoption.

Do you actually have a reasonable argument as to why there shouldn't be people on our notes? Or any other criticism than "it's terrible cause it has a person on it"?

Bitcoin is NOT a currency is it? It is an instrument of bartering. But then again beads and shells where considered currency at one point.

We do live in exciting times! Scary but exciting!

http://bitcoin.org/

The very first sentence at the top of the page:
"Bitcoin is an experimental new digital currency..."

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Quote from: rxw on July 20, 2012, 08:39:08 AM

Quote from: teflone on July 20, 2012, 12:26:06 AM

ugghhh..

The one with alan turing is horrible just because he's in it..

Avoid people..

And one up there has

Vires in numbers.. Is that correct ?

I think its supposed to be slightly diff...

2 of the 4 accepted already have people on them. Not only that, but one of those two has a quote by a person as well... why should people be excluded from our notes?

One of the points of my design was to make it seem like cash... hence the identical dimensions to a US dollar, and hence the large portrait of a person found on most currency (and Turing is a prime choice- he was important in the fields of computer science AND cryptography, both of which bitcoin is based in). Although bitcoin notes may not be carried around as often as regular cash (it's the currency of the INTERNET, after all), I still think it would be in our best interest to have them be similar to cash. I think it would be more likely to ease adoption.

Do you actually have a reasonable argument as to why there shouldn't be people on our notes? Or any other criticism than "it's terrible cause it has a person on it"?

Bitcoin is NOT a currency is it? It is an instrument of bartering. But then again beads and shells where considered currency at one point.

We do live in exciting times! Scary but exciting!

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