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legendary
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April 29, 2014, 09:27:49 AM
#47
OP: You are right.  Feeling bad about yourself, shame in front of your friends is important to feelings of self-worth.  But don't beat yourself up; plenty of experienced investors missed the bubble's top.  Those of us who understand the protocol and believe in the economic change it implies can rely on that during the downtrends -- that is "I'm investing to support this great idea, not just to make $".  If that is not you then learn to hedge your bets.  For example you could buy back with a small amount that you REALLY CAN afford to lose, maybe 10% to 25%.  But tell your friends you sold, never mention this little bit to them.  Forget about these coins.  If BTC goes to 0, oh well.  If it goes through the roof, you'll be able to book a nice vacation or buy yourself something special, and tell your friends, "I guess I didn't sell ALL my coins... Wink", without going into any specifics.

The alternative is the possibility you've sold near the bottom and how will you feel with no coins if BTC hits 5000 in 2015?  Bitcoin has fundamental advantages over gold and fiat currency that make those kind of valuations possible if not necessarily probable.

hero member
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April 29, 2014, 09:21:15 AM
#46
It seems every time I find something that looks promising, I'm just a sucker waiting to give someone else a payout.  I have been following advice a gentleman offered to "hodl" my bitcoin, from $984 all the way down to now $436.  I've just been fooling myself, telling myself "Don't worry hon, it will go back up! It always has!"  I've been spending my time reading the forums and hoping.  My friends called me crazy when I told them it's a sure thing.  The shame is just as bad as the lost money.  So I quit.  You guys win.  Coins sold.  Sad


I honestly feel the pain of this mistake already.  Whatever compelled you to buy at $984 hasn't changed.  It's just a bear market at the moment, in a bear market the market over reacts to bad news and under reacts to good news  You've basically managed to ride out a huge section of bear market and endured as much pain as you can, bravo, but don't let it all be for nothing.  Unless you have any reasons why you now think bitcoin will no longer succeed I'd seriously consider buying back in and taking the smallish losses on the chin and keep holding.  It doens't sound like you've made this decision based on any reasons about bitcoin, but rather it's an emotional decision that's compromised your judgement.  Happens to the best of us.  Has happened to me before actually in bitcoin once and on a couple of altcoins (though overall my trading is v positive). Seriously the pain of seeing it go up again after you were so sure about it for so long will be so much worse than whatever you're feeling now.  I actually think we could be nearing the end of the bear market anyway.
legendary
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April 29, 2014, 09:18:47 AM
#45
Money was lost the moment you sold. Not when price was going down. I hope you'll be happy with your decision. It's all that matters.

You can see the price in 2 years going to 1500 and still be happy, if you know you're not that risky persons. But the sad part would be if you'd be even more sad than now.

Or you can see it at 1500 and be miserable AND with a loss.
hero member
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April 29, 2014, 08:46:23 AM
#44
This man extolled me to buy $520 BTC around 1 week ago, cos 'Bitcoin really was about to take off'.

..its goes on ..veronica u mentioned being a loser ..well i agree  Cool

This same man states:

Honestly I have had an awesome crypto day

I took a 5% haircut on getting back into a ltc pump that i nearly missed with my play money ...i love trying to day trade crypto its like a wildcat on meth....so many lessons so fast Cheesy

Yet he has still not learned one of the most fundamental lessons. Never take a trade in no-mans land. We are right at this very minute, slap bang in the middle of a downward trading range. Bitcoin could go either way based on the whims of anyone with not even particularly deep pockets and Yip Yip is splashing about in these crypto-puddles thinking he is learning lessons whilst the only lesson he needs to learn here, is being totally ignored.
hero member
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April 29, 2014, 08:33:57 AM
#43
Honestly I have had an awesome crypto day

I took a 5% haircut on getting back into a ltc pump that i nearly missed with my play money ...i love trying to day trade crypto its like a wildcat on meth....so many lessons so fast Cheesy

I had some guys invest a cool 200k into crypto and these guys where mainstream

i have read the current bacth of coindesk articles and with

GOX 2.0 coming back to be our western standard as any more news about the chinese i will barf

..its goes on ..veronica u mentioned being a loser ..well i agree  Cool

legendary
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Welt Am Draht
April 29, 2014, 08:04:23 AM
#42
This story has been played out countless times. Someone declared returns were dying and sold their several thousand coins a few weeks ago and it went up 20% between his replies.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/if-someone-buys-bitcoin-today-theyll-be-lucky-to-see-a-300-roi-496365

If I was the OP I'd dabble with an amount that didn't make me sweat or count my future riches. It might end up being a pleasant surprise a few years down the line, years being the key word.  

newbie
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April 29, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
#41
It seems every time I find something that looks promising, I'm just a sucker waiting to give someone else a payout.  I have been following advice a gentleman offered to "hodl" my bitcoin, from $984 all the way down to now $436.  Imor've just been fooling myself, telling myself "Don't worry hon, it will go back up! It always has!"  I've been spending my time reading the forums and hoping.  My friends called me crazy when I told them it's a sure thing.  The shame is just as bad as the lost money.  So I quit.  You guys win.  Coins sold.  Sad


Don't give up, Veronica! You will win the next round. Feel better soon!
legendary
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April 29, 2014, 07:10:36 AM
#40
well it will go back up but i don't see it  ever going anywhere over $1000 ever again.

ahaha ok thanks for the laugh. no really, you are funny. you are about as short-sighted as OP Smiley have you ever planned and executed anything with a timeframe longer than 15 seconds?

Why sir, that is outrageous I .... ooh shiny!!!
full member
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April 29, 2014, 07:07:38 AM
#39
Sounds like the start of capitulation
hero member
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April 29, 2014, 07:05:19 AM
#38
It seems every time I find something that looks promising, I'm just a sucker waiting to give someone else a payout.  I have been following advice a gentleman offered to "hodl" my bitcoin, from $984 all the way down to now $436.  I've just been fooling myself, telling myself "Don't worry hon, it will go back up! It always has!"  I've been spending my time reading the forums and hoping.  My friends called me crazy when I told them it's a sure thing.  The shame is just as bad as the lost money.  So I quit.  You guys win.  Coins sold.  Sad

You are clearly feeling gut wrenchingly sick.

Back when Bitcoin was up at $1000 and I was actually making money trading it, I always felt as though I was doing something very wrong (morally wrong), and this is exactly what it was. If a clown like me could be making money in Bitcoin, it is only because a whole of other people are losing. Bitcoin is a nasty pernicious and highly manipulated market full of dumb money. No offence but dumb money means you, most certainly your 'hodling' gentleman friend, and when it comes down to it, me as well (most twitchy and reactionary shit trader ever).

As regrettable a position as you find yourself in having taken a 50% + haircut on a trade, you have probably done the right thing, albeit probably only just. The intermediate bottom is not in yet, but I think that the next floor Bitcoin finds will be it. I reckon if you have your capital lined up in buy-in tranches from mid $200s up to $300, then you have a good chance of taking a bite at the next bottom, and a good chance of recovering much of your lost funds. If things go very wrong however, and the bottom turns out to be much lower than this (which it might) and their is no momentous rebound to speak off, but months of apathetic trading (think of masses of jaded Bitcoin investors feeling just like how you feel), you should at least get the chance to take your money back, if not take a small profit. Knowing when to leave the market however, is going to require that you stop listening to Bitcoin Nutters and start tuning in to traders or tech analysis guys who are a bit more on the money. There are quite a few of them around......just not too many that come on this forum.......'arepo' (on this forum) seems to be quite good....but going by the thread started by his subscribers, possibly dead, or in prison.

In fact, this forum is one of the very worst places to for your mind to be if you are trading Bitcoin. Even if you are wise enough to disagree with and reject the Kool-Aid that is splashed around here in copious volumes, you may find yourself 'rejecting it too much' and taking lines of thinking or opinion on Bitcoin that you would have never taken if not for having come in contact with the Bitcoin Nutter. The Bitcoin Nutter is a dangerous animal and should never be approached.
full member
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April 29, 2014, 06:23:37 AM
#37
I know exactly how Veronica feels; it seems everything I touch ends in disaster, but unlike her, I'm holding on to the bitter end. I too have maybe invested more than is sensible but not enough to prevent me paying day to day bills. I would never go that far. I think it would feel much worse to see the price at $10k or maybe a lot more & know you'd missed out on a fortune than to lose your original investment. The downside is limited but the upside is not. Nothing else that I know of seems to have the potential that bitcoin does.
legendary
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April 29, 2014, 06:00:29 AM
#36
It seems every time I find something that looks promising, I'm just a sucker waiting to give someone else a payout.  I have been following advice a gentleman offered to "hodl" my bitcoin, from $984 all the way down to now $436.  I've just been fooling myself, telling myself "Don't worry hon, it will go back up! It always has!"  I've been spending my time reading the forums and hoping.  My friends called me crazy when I told them it's a sure thing.  The shame is just as bad as the lost money.  So I quit.  You guys win.  Coins sold.  Sad

You should not have sold. Buy them back immediately. If it's still at this level at the end of 2015 then consider it.

At least wait till the Winklevoss Bitcoin ETF has floated on the stock exchange (probably around the end of the year / early next year). Here's a couple of hard facts for you:

[1] - cryptocurrency technology can not be un-unvented. It's here to stay and will only grow. eMail took 10 years to really proliferate into widespread use. You are far too impatient.

[2] - Bitcoin is not being replaced. Despite a flotilla of "Alts" storming onto the scene over the last few months, not one single one has even made a dent in Bitcoin's supremacy. Even Litecoin retains its status. The hashpower of the Bitcoin network is now immense, it's only consolidating.

legendary
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Borsche
April 29, 2014, 04:29:26 AM
#35
well it will go back up but i don't see it  ever going anywhere over $1000 ever again.

ahaha ok thanks for the laugh. no really, you are funny. you are about as short-sighted as OP Smiley have you ever planned and executed anything with a timeframe longer than 15 seconds?
member
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April 29, 2014, 04:22:23 AM
#34
-50%, well in such short time as few months, anything can happen. You may check Bitcoin price history graphs, even worse dips happened in such short time before
newbie
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April 29, 2014, 04:09:09 AM
#33
op, dude, ffs obvious nsa is obvious. get your shit together
legendary
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April 29, 2014, 04:02:42 AM
#32
I remember a guy who bought a big bunch of Litecoins at 6$, he bought around 10k of them with money he could not afford to lose.

When litecoin hit the bottom, at that time it was 2$. He was full of despair and wanted to take his loss.
I have no idea if that guy sold or not, he was advised not to sell.

Three weeks later, November arrived Smiley

Truth is, you need at least two bubbles to stop caring about the price.

Pretty much this
Seen two to three bubbles already myself actually think this is a long one more or less but after a few of these you don't worry as much about it
Although a high entry price relative to actual can make people feel that despair even if they made a logical choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU
So the logic here is because that because a rally occured at a certain point of emotion in the past, it going to occur at the same point again in the future? Is it like groundhogs day and we just keep repeating the same thing over and over?

Well I am responding with videos so I guess I'll put it back here
We got that price going back from the old rate
Just check the chart at the beginning and think about it this is one year ago do you really think its just emotion or if their is something else there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pID03RrmKow

I don't understand. I see a quick zip through a chart and then a music video. Was there supposed be some TA somewhere?

Did you check the price at the start of that video and the amount of days that passed by
It changes a lot in a few months
Were talking about the 1-30 dollar range last year
Price history not even TA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq57BjBVq7o (Although I might just be having a bit of fun with Zhou Tonged Tongue)

So basically were standing here having a conversation about why Bitcoins are too cheap at 500 dollars compared to 900 dollars one year from the date when it was only at 90 dollars and asking why it is doomed to fail now Smiley
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg360ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

Just find the defense position a bit funny here
YTD is still 550% lol.

Basically same story with the Litecoinguy

I remember a guy who bought a big bunch of Litecoins at 6$, he bought around 10k of them with money he could not afford to lose.

When litecoin hit the bottom, at that time it was 2$. He was full of despair and wanted to take his loss.
I have no idea if that guy sold or not, he was advised not to sell.

Three weeks later, November arrived so three months is nothing.

hero member
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April 29, 2014, 03:54:32 AM
#31
I remember a guy who bought a big bunch of Litecoins at 6$, he bought around 10k of them with money he could not afford to lose.

When litecoin hit the bottom, at that time it was 2$. He was full of despair and wanted to take his loss.
I have no idea if that guy sold or not, he was advised not to sell.

Three weeks later, November arrived Smiley

Truth is, you need at least two bubbles to stop caring about the price.

Pretty much this
Seen two to three bubbles already myself actually think this is a long one more or less but after a few of these you don't worry as much about it
Although a high entry price relative to actual can make people feel that despair even if they made a logical choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU
So the logic here is because that because a rally occured at a certain point of emotion in the past, it going to occur at the same point again in the future? Is it like groundhogs day and we just keep repeating the same thing over and over?

Well I am responding with videos so I guess I'll put it back here
We got that price going back from the old rate
Just check the chart at the beginning and think about it this is one year ago do you really think its just emotion or if their is something else there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pID03RrmKow

I don't understand. I see a quick zip through a chart and then a music video. Was there supposed be some TA somewhere?
legendary
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April 29, 2014, 03:52:15 AM
#30
I remember a guy who bought a big bunch of Litecoins at 6$, he bought around 10k of them with money he could not afford to lose.

When litecoin hit the bottom, at that time it was 2$. He was full of despair and wanted to take his loss.
I have no idea if that guy sold or not, he was advised not to sell.

Three weeks later, November arrived Smiley

Truth is, you need at least two bubbles to stop caring about the price.

Pretty much this
Seen two to three bubbles already myself actually think this is a long one more or less but after a few of these you don't worry as much about it
Although a high entry price relative to actual can make people feel that despair even if they made a logical choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU
So the logic here is because that because a rally occured at a certain point of emotion in the past, it going to occur at the same point again in the future? Is it like groundhogs day and we just keep repeating the same thing over and over?

Well I am responding with videos so I guess I'll put it back here
We got that price going back from the old rate
Just check the chart at the beginning and think about it this is one year ago do you really think its just emotion or if their is something else there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pID03RrmKow
hero member
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April 29, 2014, 03:49:47 AM
#29
I remember a guy who bought a big bunch of Litecoins at 6$, he bought around 10k of them with money he could not afford to lose.

When litecoin hit the bottom, at that time it was 2$. He was full of despair and wanted to take his loss.
I have no idea if that guy sold or not, he was advised not to sell.

Three weeks later, November arrived Smiley

Truth is, you need at least two bubbles to stop caring about the price.

Pretty much this
Seen two to three bubbles already myself actually think this is a long one more or less but after a few of these you don't worry as much about it
Although a high entry price relative to actual can make people feel that despair even if they made a logical choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU
So the logic here is because that because a rally occured at a certain point of emotion in the past, it going to occur at the same point again in the future? Is it like groundhogs day and we just keep repeating the same thing over and over?
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1115
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
April 29, 2014, 03:44:06 AM
#28
I remember a guy who bought a big bunch of Litecoins at 6$, he bought around 10k of them with money he could not afford to lose.

When litecoin hit the bottom, at that time it was 2$. He was full of despair and wanted to take his loss.
I have no idea if that guy sold or not, he was advised not to sell.

Three weeks later, November arrived Smiley

Truth is, you need at least two bubbles to stop caring about the price.

Pretty much this
Seen two to three bubbles already myself actually think this is a long one more or less but after a few of these you don't worry as much about it
Although a high entry price relative to actual can make people feel that despair even if they made a logical choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU
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