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newbie
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Yeah I know about you but there is a possibility that the last couple of months you were talking about is really not something that's going to change or even improve over time.   
It is what makes people realize that a bear market is inevitable because its not just a price fluctuation   
to make it a bear market but because the price does not always increase up and it is not like it happens all the time. 
You would have been like that in Bitcoin in 2017, but not now!   
What you should do with yourself, is to be aware of what the market is all about and not to be afraid. 
 
I believe that at some point every bear market is just a temporary bubble.   
 
Just like you have not seen the value drop so often, you are talking about the market crashing, not the prices going down.
full member
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market,
you have witnessed 2 bear market? meaning you already witnessed 2 Bull market right?

but why still asks something like this?


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Agree that bad news is also in a bull market, but it is not as much and not as big as in a bear market. Do you see any collapse during the bull season? I'm pretty sure we never saw that happen but when the bull season ended, things got worse, not only the bans but also the collapse of the projects happened in a row during bear season. So I think the crypto market is a manipulative market and not based on supply and demand like other markets.
lol , Bad news is being spread in Bull market because there are so much happening about manipulation and they wanted
to bring the price down so they will re purchase .
hero member
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This applies when you take Bitcoin as a short Investment plan and want to quit the market after making a profit. I am not saying that I don't consider it an investment. But, I'd instead consider it savings where I care less about the market price. Because I believe Bitcoin will gain massive ROI in the long run. If Bitcoin gives me a good return in the future, I will be happy to take it. But I won't be sad If Bitcoin doesn't give me a good profit Because, as I said before, I'd instead consider it a savings wallet.
There are two plans that you can implement in investing in bitcoin, the short term as a way to get the closest profit both in small and large amounts, while the long term pattern can be considered as saving the value of the currency invested in bitcoin. As we know that bitcoin is very suitable for long-term investment and these two ways should be done together with an adjusted capital percentage, but if we don't understand how to read market conditions then long-term is a better choice because we don't need to monitor conditions market any time.

Therefore it depends on how one can take advantage of these two plans and most importantly how comfortable it is in investing, but if both can be controlled properly it will be much better, so that in the short term and long term both benefit. If you believe Bitcoin will get a large ROI in the long term then the choice is much better for you to do.

This applies when you want to hold it for a long time. Bitcoin will continue to replace its ATH in the long run. No matter what your buying price is. You must be patient and hold tight until you see another ATH or a higher price than your buying price. I lost a lot in Bitcoin in the last couple of years, making mistakes that a newbie does. But I learned a lot since then.
It's better to have made a mistake than to try in the absence of knowledge and experience that will lead us to a better prepared stage to control risk. Almost many people have made mistakes when investing, and I and many others are no exception, so based on this experience we understand more about how to make the right investments. Buy and hold bitcoin because we will see the process, patience and discipline will bring us to the maturity stage in investing and bitcoin is very suitable for long-term investment as an asset that is able to maintain investment value.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Short answer: yes, absolutely yes.

Don't forget that there are very few bitcoins in this world and everybody wants them, and how do they want them? At the lowest price of course! It just can't be a coincidence that during bear markets there are bad news after bad news, many of those clearly made up. I've been in this world since 2016, every few months the market would go down because "China is banning bitcoin", they probably banned it 400 times if you listen to the news, and yet people every single time would fall for it and sell their bitcoins. If you believe in bitcoin just don't pay attention to all the FUD, sometimes it's true, the majority of times is not.
Probably, that’s how the market works. If we can’t stay and take advantage of every bad news that will make the bitcoin price drops, then how are we supposed to accumulate bitcoin in the first place? Actually, bad news are not only happening during bearish market, it’s also visible when the market is bullish, but people don’t actually care about it as they are more concern on how to sell at profits when every coin in the market is increasing its value and price. And bullish market creates the best selling point, so negative news will never be entertained anyway.

Agree that bad news is also in a bull market, but it is not as much and not as big as in a bear market. Do you see any collapse during the bull season? I'm pretty sure we never saw that happen but when the bull season ended, things got worse, not only the bans but also the collapse of the projects happened in a row during bear season. So I think the crypto market is a manipulative market and not based on supply and demand like other markets.
hero member
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When the bitcoin price is lower than the purchase price, we just have to wait for the next price increase.
This applies when you take Bitcoin as a short Investment plan and want to quit the market after making a profit. I am not saying that I don't consider it an investment. But, I'd instead consider it savings where I care less about the market price. Because I believe Bitcoin will gain massive ROI in the long run. If Bitcoin gives me a good return in the future, I will be happy to take it. But I won't be sad If Bitcoin doesn't give me a good profit Because, as I said before, I'd instead consider it a savings wallet.

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There is no defeat in bitcoin investment, if they know the best way and know what to do when bitcoin experiences a severe correction.
This applies when you want to hold it for a long time. Bitcoin will continue to replace its ATH in the long run. No matter what your buying price is. You must be patient and hold tight until you see another ATH or a higher price than your buying price. I lost a lot in Bitcoin in the last couple of years, making mistakes that a newbie does. But I learned a lot since then.
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It's how the media wants to play the game. Of course, during bear markets, the media will sell all its news hard and make money off it. And during the bull runs, they would stay silent as possible because their news wouldn't be bought anyway. It's how they make money, and for sure they are paid to peddle those news hard when the situation aligns to whatever they're reporting. It's a common tactic they've been doing for years way before crypto is around.
Let’s just get used to it. As long as you won’t fall in any of their traps, then you won’t be taken advantage of. Just know that creating FUDs are their only way of sustaining their income, that’s why we have to deal only with facts and get rid of FUDs. And I also think that negative news will remain useless, unless we start believing on it. Even in bullish season there are still negative news that will arise, but as long as it won’t stop the market from being bullish, then we should never mind it too.
hero member
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
The market has only one bearish market condition, one bullish, and then a market correction. But it does not mean that negative news only fall on bearish season, all the market conditions have its fair share of positive and negative news. But most likely, since everything in bearish market are going down, particularly the crypto prices, then you consider it a negative news. No, you were wrong in there. It’s actually a perfect start for newbies to enter the market to maximize buying on these cheap coins and hold them for years until they decide to sell when bullish market sets in.

I agree. Bullish season surely have its own negative effect towards investors especially the ones who cannot really afford most of the coins in the market because in this particular season, prices are surging and there are even other coins that are having another ATH. So, that is quite expensive enough for us to buy during that time, even buying a fraction of it seems expensive enough. While for bear market, buying coins in this time are much advisable because it is cheap but the trouble is, you have to filter which coins that got more chances to explode when the bull comes back again.
sr. member
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This should be expected because it natural for people to be more interested in Bitcoin during it's up-trends and vanish during its down-trend, take for instance when a man becomes Rich we see many people around him either seeking for help or being with him for whatsoever personal motives they feel they can achieve at this time but when this same Rich man becomes poor you don't see much people around him even in rare case you even meet people that never benefit from him when he was rich, this is applicable to Bitcoin, when Bitcoin gains value which is the bullish market more investors is expected, while when it market value shrinks which is during bearish period it loses investment interest, but to me I see the bearish period as an advantage since Bitcoin has come to stay.
hero member
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

This is just the nature of the market for you during Bull and the Bear market run , Market sentiment and speculations here and there, people creating FUDs around, while others are taking advantage of those times. One thing we should do is just to understand the nature of the market and how the market cycle works, once you do that ,I don't think you would be toyed around with all the happenings during Bull and bear market period. Market is like a game only those that understood it will win the game. The bottom line is that, to succeed be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy.
sr. member
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There are some news media that always promote the negative aspects of Bitcoin. For some reason, if something bad happens in the Bitcoin market, they repeatedly highlight that negative event in front of everyone. One such news in our country was published by a news media where they headlined the news "Proletarians Invest in Bitcoin". 

That is, the media wants to convince everyone that those who invest in Bitcoin will be proletarians. Since it was in their headline, I went to read the news with great interest when they wrote in detail about a person who sold his house and invested in Bitcoin but lost all his wealth because he did not invest at the right time. Maybe it's because of that person's mistake but many people have achieved success never seen that news media shared someone's success story. This is the current state of the media, especially regarding Bitcoin.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...


There is no clear evidence or consensus to suggest that bad news is intentionally released during bear markets to manipulate the price of Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. While it's certainly possible that some individuals or organizations may seek to take advantage of market fluctuations to make a profit, it's difficult to determine the motives behind market movements or specific news events.

In many cases, market cycles and investor behavior can be driven by a wide range of factors, including economic conditions, geopolitical events, regulatory developments, and even social media sentiment. During bear markets, investors may be more cautious and risk-averse, which can amplify the impact of negative news or events. Conversely, during bull markets, investors may be more optimistic and willing to take on risk, which can lead to increased demand and upward price movements.
full member
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Good news doesn't come all the time, maybe it's just whales playing games. To see a big change in Bitcoin it takes years of market expansion. Of course during bear markets investors will sell hard and make money.It's not true that all the bad news about Bitcoin disappears. Because we see all the news when we look at history.2024 will surely show Bitcoin good things.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Short answer: yes, absolutely yes.

Don't forget that there are very few bitcoins in this world and everybody wants them, and how do they want them? At the lowest price of course! It just can't be a coincidence that during bear markets there are bad news after bad news, many of those clearly made up. I've been in this world since 2016, every few months the market would go down because "China is banning bitcoin", they probably banned it 400 times if you listen to the news, and yet people every single time would fall for it and sell their bitcoins. If you believe in bitcoin just don't pay attention to all the FUD, sometimes it's true, the majority of times is not.
Probably, that’s how the market works. If we can’t stay and take advantage of every bad news that will make the bitcoin price drops, then how are we supposed to accumulate bitcoin in the first place? Actually, bad news are not only happening during bearish market, it’s also visible when the market is bullish, but people don’t actually care about it as they are more concern on how to sell at profits when every coin in the market is increasing its value and price. And bullish market creates the best selling point, so negative news will never be entertained anyway.
hero member
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This is where traders liquidate their money. Also, This is when traders make big money. It depends on your actions. If you are holding Bitcoin and the current market is lower than your buying price, Of course, you won't feel good. You can indeed buy more, so your average price gets slightly lower. That's how DCA works.
When the bitcoin price is lower than the purchase price, we just have to wait for the next price increase. In my opinion, whether an investment is safe or not is not seen from the percentage value of the daily, monthly or yearly price increase, but we understand the investment as a whole and at certain moments we know how to make a profit and that is its function. It is these price fluctuations that make people see opportunities in bitcoin investing and should avoid the risk of panic-induced losses, because if they act correctly, I guarantee they will never lose money on bitcoin investments and I think you know that.

The purchase options using DCA may differ depending on how far people can take the appropriate funding approach. Let's say $ 50 for one week and if it's done regularly, you can calculate how many bitcoins they can collect each year. Analytical intelligence and knowing how to see opportunities are parts that need to be learned and experience will bring people to these abilities.

But everyone doesn't do that, and everyone doesn't undersdoesn't understand the the market pattern. 10% or 15% changes in a single day which we have seen multiple times. Well, People like it when market moves up trend and their portfolio increase by 10-15%. But, it's hard for them to accept the lose. I won't say it's a lose until they sell it.
If from the start we often hear that investment cannot be forced without knowledge, then from there we already understand what we must do before investing. There is no defeat in bitcoin investment, if they know the best way and know what to do when bitcoin experiences a severe correction.
sr. member
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Short answer: yes, absolutely yes.

Don't forget that there are very few bitcoins in this world and everybody wants them, and how do they want them? At the lowest price of course! It just can't be a coincidence that during bear markets there are bad news after bad news, many of those clearly made up. I've been in this world since 2016, every few months the market would go down because "China is banning bitcoin", they probably banned it 400 times if you listen to the news, and yet people every single time would fall for it and sell their bitcoins. If you believe in bitcoin just don't pay attention to all the FUD, sometimes it's true, the majority of times is not.
There is only limited supplies of bitcoin in this world that is also why people are giving those things high appreciation and value. I just can't believe that they'd actually ban all the miners all over China, and they need to find a way to work on their mining since it is not recognized by the government.
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Is there a graph which shows BTC price with relation to news articles?
None but it's more of the reaction and action of the graph/chart that we've got for Bitcoin. It's like an understanding that when there's some bad news and the market moves negatively, that's how it goes and sums up that the movement is caused by the news that has been out recently.
This is just a conclusion that most of us sees that whenever a news it published and it has come from someone known in the community or even in the economy, traders, retail and institutional are reacting quickly because they capitalize to the news and the situation for them to take advantage of it.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Short answer: yes, absolutely yes.

Don't forget that there are very few bitcoins in this world and everybody wants them, and how do they want them? At the lowest price of course! It just can't be a coincidence that during bear markets there are bad news after bad news, many of those clearly made up. I've been in this world since 2016, every few months the market would go down because "China is banning bitcoin", they probably banned it 400 times if you listen to the news, and yet people every single time would fall for it and sell their bitcoins. If you believe in bitcoin just don't pay attention to all the FUD, sometimes it's true, the majority of times is not.
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What I can say is that the crypto space experiences bad news more frequently during bear markets than during bull markets because of how long bear markets last compared to bull markets (bear markets last for a long time while bull runs last for a short time).

What I'm trying to imply is that bad news will be seen more readily and have a greater impact on the crypto market during the bear season than it does during the bull run, when bitcoin is going through a halving season.

The positive news of the halving season will outweigh the bad news, preventing it from spreading too quickly and interfering with the bull season more than when in the bear market that nothing special is happening order than bear season
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
The market has only one bearish market condition, one bullish, and then a market correction. But it does not mean that negative news only fall on bearish season, all the market conditions have its fair share of positive and negative news. But most likely, since everything in bearish market are going down, particularly the crypto prices, then you consider it a negative news. No, you were wrong in there. It’s actually a perfect start for newbies to enter the market to maximize buying on these cheap coins and hold them for years until they decide to sell when bullish market sets in.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

Is there a graph which shows BTC price with relation to news articles?
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