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If we pay more attention and combine market analysis both technically, fundamentally and sentimentally. so it can indeed be said that there are times when we see the accumulation period, namely where bitcoin experiences sideways, so at that time small news will be made big. and old news is even brought back as if it were new news. and I think these fuds were deliberately spread to stop the rate of increase. because there are parties who really might do it on purpose because they are in accumulation mode. Because after these parties have finished accumulating, it is not surprising that positive news will begin to emerge. and controlling market sentiment so that it changes in a positive direction. We as market players must be sensitive about this. and I'm still studying this.
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When bad news arrive many people fear and start selling their coins, this results in more sell order then buy order and hence the price starts falling down and it seems like we are in the bear market. And when there is no bad news regarding cryptos, many people start buying the coins and hence set the demand of the coin high for which the price goes up due to the limited supply of the coins. In the op you have mentioned that the coins follow reverse pattern, but Bitcoins works the way in which I mentioned above.
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It's called market sentiment, when the trend is bearish then expect that the people will view the bitcoin in negative things that will cause panic, media manipulation, fear and many more but when the market transition in to bullish you will see that the sentiment will change significantly and people will view it in positive way and there are a lot of good news that will published in the internet. That kind of scenario is pretty normal and it always happen not only cryptocurrencies but also in stocks. The price retraced in the past days but it does mean that we are now in bearish?

For me it is a big no, if you will look at the bigger time frame like weekly and monthly, you can see that the chart already made a solid base that we can consider as major support. Whales are starting to move also and it causes the price to bounce in the key levels. If the price of the bitcoin breaks the $31k then it is confirmation that we will see a bullish season for this year. The bear market is now too long and for me the bitcoin has now a momentum to break the key levels so expect a positive things that will happen in the following weeks.
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I think there will be many explanations for the problem from the OP, but what I feel in the market is that we are very easily psychologically controlled even though we try to calculate everything carefully before starting, but when we go In fact, everything is easily reversed. The news is released as part of the crowd's emotional manipulation of the market and the few that get away with this are left alone with their portfolios in the market.

There are many ways to approach this market but I find that if we don't get enough results to satisfy ourselves, we will always be stuck in what is this
news game that will last, and give it a try. Ask where the news is coming from whether good or bad it is like a war between two factions, participants can either stay out of sight or be one of the parties where they are manipulated by the psychological game needy.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

If you have been here for a couple of years, Do you remember when Elon Musk Announced Tesla would accept Bitcoin as a payment method, and we saw a massive pump on the market? This is whales who are playing with us and the market. Elon Musk announced they would accept Bitcoin as payment method > Market Pumped > Elon Musk Cashed Out his profit > Elon Musk says Tesla will stop accepting bitcoin for car purchases, citing environmental concerns > Market dropped a little bit. He waited a couple of weeks. Probably Buy Back some Bitcoin again, and now > Elon Musk says Tesla will 'most likely' accept bitcoin again when it becomes more eco-friendly. then again > Tesla unlikely to accept Bitcoin again.

I don't know if Tesla accepts Bitcoin right now. But the PDF they prepared and uploaded to their website still exists on their website. Here it is https://www.tesla.com/assets/pdf/BTC_What_You_Need_To_Know_en_US.pdf. This PDF refers to two more web page of their website, which is this and this. I tried searching Keyword "Bitcoin" and found nothing on their website. So, It's unlikely they accept Bitcoin.

This is just a scenario I mentioned. Other whales are hiding and playing with the market.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
Not an OG, but even outside crypto, these kinds of news are always happening. What's the point of all of this? It's simple. It is to get clicks in their articles as well as gain reputation. Like others mentioned here, it's the usual journalism that you can even hear at your live news and this is why I am never ever going to be a journalist. You would hear plenty of times on how many times Bitcoin already died and see those news disappear but still get cemented in Bitcoin Obituaries.

User tranthidung linked a good site for what I am talking about.

Actually, all bad news is still there in the bull market but because people are hyped, the bad news sink and disappear is self. When I look at ATH a couple of years ago, I heard several bad news appears during the bull market, but all people didn't talk about it on Twitter or any Social media, then, no need for a long time that bad news is disappearing itself. This means, all the bad news is always there, and it's not making for any purpose except for FUD.
It is just a simple statement that it is a great news for those who held Bitcoin for so long while it is a bad news for those who are still looking to buy their sold coins back. Twitter is still somehow a good source of news if you read with.....moderation.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished?
Actually, all bad news is still there in the bull market but because people are hyped, the bad news sink and disappear is self. When I look at ATH a couple of years ago, I heard several bad news appears during the bull market, but all people didn't talk about it on Twitter or any Social media, then, no need for a long time that bad news is disappearing itself. This means, all the bad news is always there, and it's not making for any purpose except for FUD.

This the actual thing that happened during the bull run. Yes, those negative news are always there, it is the people's reaction on the certain price that makes the negative or positive news became the main content in the internet, thus make it look like one of them disappears when nobody is talking  about the other one. The same thing goes with what the content will be in this forum when Bitcoin is in bearish or bullish condition.
Some of these news were created to either spread FUD or hype. These doesn't work most of the time because not all investors are dependent on what's the content in the media, instead they are looking at an actual chart/price action.
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If for 2 cycles you have not dumped when the bull run is at its peak then you sure are hoping for a higher profit. You don't need negative news before dumping, you just need the charts.

But it's true though that it feels like the price is manipulated all the time thru the news and Gary Gensler and it's up to them, whoever they are, when the bull run starts, and when it ends regardless of the halving.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished?
Actually, all bad news is still there in the bull market but because people are hyped, the bad news sink and disappear is self. When I look at ATH a couple of years ago, I heard several bad news appears during the bull market, but all people didn't talk about it on Twitter or any Social media, then, no need for a long time that bad news is disappearing itself. This means, all the bad news is always there, and it's not making for any purpose except for FUD.
Bad news and good news are always there all the time. The problem is that the news will strongly impact every moment. So when the market is bearish and bad news is released, even though the bad news doesn't really have a big impact, it has a big impact and makes people panic. Vice versa.

People need to calm themselves down when bad news is released and not take it seriously while figuring out what's happening. Maybe the bad news is just to make people more scared and worried but if people can handle their emotions, the bad news won't have much impact on the market.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished?
Actually, all bad news is still there in the bull market but because people are hyped, the bad news sink and disappear is self. When I look at ATH a couple of years ago, I heard several bad news appears during the bull market, but all people didn't talk about it on Twitter or any Social media, then, no need for a long time that bad news is disappearing itself. This means, all the bad news is always there, and it's not making for any purpose except for FUD.

This is true, bad news always exists and spreads even during the bull season, but people seem less preoccupied and focused on making profits, so bad news goes almost unnoticed. But what OP said is not entirely wrong, in a bear market, there is more bad news than in a bull market. We will never see a big crash in a bull market, but they will always appear one after another in a bear market. So that's why I've always thought crypto is still a manipulated market rather than a market based on supply and demand.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
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Take note also that in the cryptocurrency market, there are a lot of entities or news outlets or personalities that are spreading fake news or in short FUD to try to manipulate the market.
There are a lot of cases here, just like misleading news, fake news, FUD news, etc.
I think you already spot it like how the FUD exists there.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished?
Actually, all bad news is still there in the bull market but because people are hyped, the bad news sink and disappear is self. When I look at ATH a couple of years ago, I heard several bad news appears during the bull market, but all people didn't talk about it on Twitter or any Social media, then, no need for a long time that bad news is disappearing itself. This means, all the bad news is always there, and it's not making for any purpose except for FUD.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...


Good/bad news happen during both bull and bear markets. Most of the news that are viewed as bad or good actually don't have much impact at all. Also a lot of the news are caused by the market rather than being the force behind the market. For example, during the last bull cycle there was a lot of news about institutional adoption - institutions were trying to profit from the bull market and in turn fueled it.
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It's a shame that when the market is bearish you can't take advantage of it.

Bad news and good news always coexist in crypto and it will happen at the right moment.
When a bearish market occurs FUD pressure will be stronger because FUD exposure is getting higher and some good news that appears cannot compensate for it and finally the good news sinks.

It also applies vice versa, when Bullish arrives a lot of good news appears and more and more, so FUD has no place to appear.

But why do all the events seem to be very precise with the news? Of course, this is also the intervention of the Whales who have control over the media and this is the manipulation that the Whales always do. Follow them and don't fight them, because they have control over the news that appears.
They can control FUD and FOMO and we as traders or small investors can only follow them, not fight them.
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This is not new at all because when the Covid-19 pandemic was about to start, they already made a claim that it will be a great escape for bitcoin's creators and they claim bitcoin at that time will lose its value but look what happened, it didn't go well for them and bitcoins still kicking and its price still decent and we have this momentum that it will gonna rise its price soon because of its current movement in the crypto market. That's why you really need to ignore everyone when it comes to your money-making method because they are all just speculating and to fully listen to them will only get you manipulated.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...
When bad news came out people started to sell their bitcoins and that is why the price is going down. Its called panic attack, lots of new people join the market when the price is going up so it helps the price to go up more and more but when they heard any bad news they got panicked and sell their coin which causes the price to go down.

Also there are many facts that cause the price moving down-trend and up-trend.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Bad news also come during the bull market in the same way good news comes during the bear market.  It is that when bad news comes during a bear market, it was emphasized and traders react easily because of them being in bearish sentiment, that is the reason why we feel bad news in a bearish market while when a piece of bad news comes in a bull market, it was ignored and overcome by the good news.

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

Obviously some wealthy individuals will try to manipulate the market, it is also a saying that knowing how to ride a whale action can give an advantage to us minnows. So I believe the best action is to be updated and be ready to read the market trend.  Take advantage of Bitcoin discounts during the bear market and DCA if possible. Trade with mind not with emotion, I believe that is the best thing to do.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
While it is obvious there is some manipulation at play here, at the same time it is not as if we do not do a good job at this on our own, many years ago I used to watch some shows related to the stock market and things were always the same, when the market was bullish then the commentators always give bullish signals and anyone which dared to give a word of caution was considered a permabear, and as you may guess when the market was going through a bad period the opposite happened, and it does not surprise me to see the same kind of behavior on the market of cryptocurrencies.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

I have somewhat different observations: bearish news during bull market make BTC go down, bullish news during bear market have no effect on the price. Why it's so? Manipulation cannot be ruled out completely. Bitcoin has so many foes, I wouldn't be surprised all/some of them would love to see Bitcoin fail.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose?

Some bad news that also makes market to crash are false, or a means of tricking the market and taking advantage but not all. Just like the dip from $30k to $27k, that happened during the period when the government sold 9,861 bitcoins out of the 50,000 bitcoins that were discovered under the Georgia crypto scammer. I think that news contributed to the fall of Bitcoin price.

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Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

If you think they are playing you, then you have to learn not to get played, but I believe you have already learned how to get used to the system since you said you experienced the crash twice.

If the bad news comes in and the hands that cannot hold their portfolio sell out of panic, then there are still people who will buy the dip, so instead of selling, also join to take advantage of the dip.
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