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The cryptocurrency market can be influenced by a variety of factors, including news and sentiment. In a bear market, negative news or events can contribute to a decrease in price, while in a bull market, positive news or events can contribute to an increase in price. It's important to stay informed and make decisions based on your own research and analysis, rather than being swayed by hype or fear. As with any investment, it's important to manage risk and invest wisely in any market, whether bullish or bearish.
well in general what you say is true and I think most people also understand this. Maybe some beginners don't understand the importance of analyzing market sentiment and market fundamentals. even though everything is like a price driving machine. because in fact humans are very easy to manipulate with news that affects the psychology of humans themselves. that's why the power of news in price movements in the market is really very strong. and what the OP wants to ask is about why bad news always appears more in a bearish market and vice versa about a bull market.

but I personally currently have the assumption that a bearish market also occurs because there is a lot of negative news. so that the more negative or fud news, that's when the market will be faster to enter into a bearish market.
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The cryptocurrency market can be influenced by a variety of factors, including news and sentiment. In a bear market, negative news or events can contribute to a decrease in price, while in a bull market, positive news or events can contribute to an increase in price. It's important to stay informed and make decisions based on your own research and analysis, rather than being swayed by hype or fear. As with any investment, it's important to manage risk and invest wisely in any market, whether bullish or bearish.
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It is unprofitable in the selling stage because the price has decreased, but it is very profitable to buy because the price is slightly cheaper, is that the person who invests only always sees an opportunity to sell. Of course not, because some of us are also waiting for a downward moment to make purchases and most of the time when FUD starts to develop the price is corrected again and that's where the opportunities we can take advantage of. If people are only good at seeing opportunities to sell, how can their assets increase, because they have never learned to analyze declining conditions caused by a number of things.

This is where traders liquidate their money. Also, This is when traders make big money. It depends on your actions. If you are holding Bitcoin and the current market is lower than your buying price, Of course, you won't feel good. You can indeed buy more, so your average price gets slightly lower. That's how DCA works. But everyone doesn't do that, and everyone doesn't undersdoesn't understand the the market pattern. 10% or 15% changes in a single day which we have seen multiple times. Well, People like it when market moves up trend and their portfolio increase by 10-15%. But, it's hard for them to accept the lose. I won't say it's a lose until they sell it.
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You are right, there is no need to be scared of what you are doing. 
 
The problem is that we are not going to be able to get out of the bear market anytime soon. 
 
We are going to have to wait for the bull market to come and that is the time to buy and sell. 
 
So, in my opinion, we should be prepared for the worst and not be afraid of what we are doing.
So wrong mate, a bull market can never be a good time to buy unless the coin you want to buy just launched on the same day, a bullish market favors those who have bought some coins in a bear market, also there is not much worse left that we haven't seen before, the worst case scenario is Bitcoin going down to maybe 16,000$ again and that should be a good time to buy instead of panicking or fearing that something bad could still happen.

This is how people lose good opportunities in the market, the fear of seeing the market crumbling down right in front of them, bear markets are where the real money are made.
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Bitcoin will always be profitable in one way or another and it all comes down to convenience, expertise, and the need to do so. And most investors choose bitcoin for the long term because it is an ideal option and definitely profitable, including me who did, because most do not like it because of its volatility but for the long term bitcoin always gives a good return.
and trend
what happened to bitcoin was also one of their strategies to collect and store it for the long term and for bigger profits.
I'm not sure 'collecting and storing' Bitcoin is really a 'strategy' so much as it is just...buying and holding. But hey, if it works for you, more power to you.
Hey, it's just the best thing to do to avoid the negative news factor that makes us panic when we're in a bear market, and what strength that refers to. Because this method only requires patience and belief that the price will rise again according to the wishes or targets that have been set.
However, this method only applies to those who do not only rely on income in this industry, if they only rely on it. The stories will be different and require special skills, especially in analyzing the whole in order to be profitable.
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The mistakes of some bitcoin investor and traders is they think that there is just one strategy in order to make profit in buying and selling bitcoin without knowing that there is unlimited pattern and combination that they can do to make money. One of it is what I do is I'll just ride the trend, if the market is bearish then it is better if you will short and sell it once the chart shows signs of streght creating highers and higher lows but if the price is bullish do not ever fight the trend and you must ride it by doing long because the price will keep appreciating if you do that and your btc value will also increase.
You are now talking about trading, but this is not interesting for investors, or rather, they simply do not want to spend their time on it, they gain a position at some point and then simply wait for their goal, wait for the exit point to take profits.

Following the trend is a good strategy and you can make good profits if you spot a trend change correctly, but it is just one of many ingredients for successful trading.
Bitcoin will always be profitable in one way or another and it all comes down to convenience, expertise, and the need to do so. And most investors choose bitcoin for the long term because it is an ideal option and definitely profitable, including me who did, because most do not like it because of its volatility but for the long term bitcoin always gives a good return.
and trend
what happened to bitcoin was also one of their strategies to collect and store it for the long term and for bigger profits.
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The mistakes of some bitcoin investor and traders is they think that there is just one strategy in order to make profit in buying and selling bitcoin without knowing that there is unlimited pattern and combination that they can do to make money. One of it is what I do is I'll just ride the trend, if the market is bearish then it is better if you will short and sell it once the chart shows signs of streght creating highers and higher lows but if the price is bullish do not ever fight the trend and you must ride it by doing long because the price will keep appreciating if you do that and your btc value will also increase.
You are now talking about trading, but this is not interesting for investors, or rather, they simply do not want to spend their time on it, they gain a position at some point and then simply wait for their goal, wait for the exit point to take profits.

Following the trend is a good strategy and you can make good profits if you spot a trend change correctly, but it is just one of many ingredients for successful trading.
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
We do have different impressions when it comes to things on which it would really be just that normal that news would really be basing up on the current trend that we are into.It would really be just a normal

approach or things to happen that good news would really pop out on a bull market just to make things even more higher in terms of value not only on Bitcoin but in most coins in the market but of course it would really be just that selected basing up on the projects which are really that have the potential or does have the utility or use case but somewhat there are still some shit coins which
are really that been pumped despite of being shit.

If you do have this kind of belief in mind then it would be better that you should really go with the flow and less minding about those casual happenings basing up on the trend.
This is how this market would behave on which it would really be that normal on what would be the approach you would be applying. Go with the waves and play with
it because if you do counter up the trend, it would really be resulting into losses.
My strategy really depends on the market trends and market sentiment, the idea is simple: get a lot of positions when the market is bullish/market sentiment is good and sell once the market turns into bearish or the sentiment for the long term is bad. Do my strategy works? Yes I'm doing it for 5 years now and we all know that there is always market cycle so my strategy depends on the current trend of the market. Right now the market sentiment for short term is bad so we may see that the price may go down in these succeeding days and weeks so my current decision is to wait for the retracement and get a lot of positions because the sentiment for the long time frame is still bullish.

The mistakes of some bitcoin investor and traders is they think that there is just one strategy in order to make profit in buying and selling bitcoin without knowing that there is unlimited pattern and combination that they can do to make money. One of it is what I do is I'll just ride the trend, if the market is bearish then it is better if you will short and sell it once the chart shows signs of streght creating highers and higher lows but if the price is bullish do not ever fight the trend and you must ride it by doing long because the price will keep appreciating if you do that and your btc value will also increase.
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You are right, there is no need to be scared of what you are doing. 
 
The problem is that we are not going to be able to get out of the bear market anytime soon. 
 
We are going to have to wait for the bull market to come and that is the time to buy and sell. 
 
So, in my opinion, we should be prepared for the worst and not be afraid of what we are doing.
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.

Bad news also happen during bull market but they are quickly eaten up because the people do not care about it when they believe that the market is in a bull. It is the same when good news comes out during the bear market but people are scared to buy during the period. A few people buying during bear season will hardly create any impact to change the direction just like a few people selling during a bull market will note make any impact also. Whenever this things happen we can not say that there are people toying with us in crypto. The market is a very big one and can not be easily toyed with.
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FUD is not always profitable for everyone. You may take the chance and buy back Bitcoin. But, most newbies fear the bear market. Some of them use exchanges to hold their coins and even use stop loss to avoid losing too much. No matter how many times others scream not to hold your coins in an exchange, people still do this and use stop loss so they don't lose too much. We know FUD may create a temporary bear market, and the Bitcoin market will pull back over time. Still, FUD affects the market. Moreover, it makes us lose money.
It is unprofitable in the selling stage because the price has decreased, but it is very profitable to buy because the price is slightly cheaper, is that the person who invests only always sees an opportunity to sell. Of course not, because some of us are also waiting for a downward moment to make purchases and most of the time when FUD starts to develop the price is corrected again and that's where the opportunities we can take advantage of. If people are only good at seeing opportunities to sell, how can their assets increase, because they have never learned to analyze declining conditions caused by a number of things.

Regarding this exchange it is important to consider so that something undesirable does not happen when the exchange is problematic, if they intend to minimize risks then they must avoid centralized exchange and should choose to store in a safe wallet. If the reason is because panic wants to decide on stop loss, so deciding to store assets in the exchange is a silly reason. Bitcoin is the best asset in the long run and why should it panic?
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I am present in crypto space years ago and I have witnessed two bear market, and I couldn't take advantage of one because of the condition that I was into at the time, but I heard about every good and bad things about crypto.

But I am curious about something and I will like to ask you old Bitcoin OG on here .

Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
We do have different impressions when it comes to things on which it would really be just that normal that news would really be basing up on the current trend that we are into.It would really be just a normal

approach or things to happen that good news would really pop out on a bull market just to make things even more higher in terms of value not only on Bitcoin but in most coins in the market but of course it would really be just that selected basing up on the projects which are really that have the potential or does have the utility or use case but somewhat there are still some shit coins which
are really that been pumped despite of being shit.

If you do have this kind of belief in mind then it would be better that you should really go with the flow and less minding about those casual happenings basing up on the trend.
This is how this market would behave on which it would really be that normal on what would be the approach you would be applying. Go with the waves and play with
it because if you do counter up the trend, it would really be resulting into losses.
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it's like what John McAfee did with the crypto market when he was still alive, the man so manipulated the market that it got to a point, no body listened or reacted to his tweet like they all used to..
I think Elon musk came and also did the same thing for a while, but maybe he came back to his senses after several popular influencers in the industry started criticising him which I think CZ of binance was one of his critics at the time.

Bitcoin and the entire crypto market is still very young, and as well very fragile and easy to manipulate, I am still looking forward to a time when the Market will become matured enough, to the extent that bad news will have little to no effect on it.
Bitcoin or any cryptocurrency, the volatility in them is not because they are young and fragile, but it's their nature and natures don't change, even if they do, they don't change totally but maybe a little bit. Also, how will any of the cryptocurrencies, even Bitcoin, be profitable if they become stable after they are mature?

Good news and bad news, they both will always have their effects on the market and that is good for us holders or traders since that provides us with opportunities to get profit out of our investments and it also gives us opportunities to make investments in the first place.

Indeed, the way the crypto works makes it more vulnerable to volatility. It is worth noting that the news that we get related on cryptocurrencies is sometimes has direct impact on the crypto wherein a positive news often leads to positive movement of the market. But, this is not always the case since it is always predictable since there are different levels of impacts of a certain news. Regardless, I think that every news has its effects so we should learn to see its impact and really know what is going on in the economy so that we can make wise decisions regarding our investments.
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Are we been played? Are thes people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
Indeed, during bear market, there will be always big FUD that start crypto market to drop again and again. We cannot ensure it. But we know that sometimes, the cycle is the cycle itself where sometimes it seems like to be manipulated. But aside from that, these may be part of the ways to cause crypto market having the cycle of bearish and bullish.
Whatever the reason, the most improtant thing is that we have understood the cycle of beaarish and bullish. so, we must understand how to optimize each cycle very otpimally. Therefore we wil not feel any regret anymore after each era is ended and changing to another one.
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I would also compare the fact that there are already a lot of newbies and weak hands in the current industry, and naturally they will react more to negative news and, at the first opportunity, they will try to either sell or fix their deposit. For growth, more money and investors are needed, and for a quick sale is just one click away, maybe that's why negative news affects the market more, at least it seems to me.
I have to agree with this. Newbies are easily affected with negative news that’s why they tend to see the whole bearish market as full of negativity because of its prices dropping down and just easily sell their coins not knowing that it could be a big opportunity instead to enter the market and invest on the potential coins while the market prices are very cheap. While they always thought for bullish market as one that is full of positive news.
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Well, I have noticed that media news or industry are completely controlled by whales, it means the bad news is widespread by a purpose. In addition to that, you should not be affected by this endless drama and negativity in social media. Unfortunately, this circle has no end, the more you follow and believe them, the more troubles you face  and that would definitely affect on your decisions. Occasionally we have to isolate ourselves from media news specifically the ones who usually post fake and negative news plus predictions and follow only the trusted ones.
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It's not that bad news come in bear market but in reality the bad news are the reason why we see price dips and opposite is when there are all positive aspects we see lot of investments both retail and institutions leading to bull run phase which is we need to understand.The more big pumps come when there is more good news at that time like some big company accepting it or regulations for it but if we say there is timing for it then it's not correct.
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it's like what John McAfee did with the crypto market when he was still alive, the man so manipulated the market that it got to a point, no body listened or reacted to his tweet like they all used to..
I think Elon musk came and also did the same thing for a while, but maybe he came back to his senses after several popular influencers in the industry started criticising him which I think CZ of binance was one of his critics at the time.

Bitcoin and the entire crypto market is still very young, and as well very fragile and easy to manipulate, I am still looking forward to a time when the Market will become matured enough, to the extent that bad news will have little to no effect on it.
Bitcoin or any cryptocurrency, the volatility in them is not because they are young and fragile, but it's their nature and natures don't change, even if they do, they don't change totally but maybe a little bit. Also, how will any of the cryptocurrencies, even Bitcoin, be profitable if they become stable after they are mature?

Good news and bad news, they both will always have their effects on the market and that is good for us holders or traders since that provides us with opportunities to get profit out of our investments and it also gives us opportunities to make investments in the first place.
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I think bad news sells better than positive news. Most of this negative news aren't accurate or correct. That notwithstanding, cryptocurrencies are Hot Topics and the media will want to leverage this to sell.

True. We always run after negative things. Those are interesting to hear, to read, to watch. That's how we take negative things. Not only about Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin. People are interested in all kinds of negative things. People love to hear more about scandals rather than anyone's success stories. That's how media make money.

I always enjoy whenever FUD news comes out because for me it is profitable and we can use it to buy. You have to stop seeing the negative news that continues and deliberately appears. Bitcoin has improved a lot from its initial journey to the present and bearish and bullish market conditions can never be separated in its journey.

FUD is not always profitable for everyone. You may take the chance and buy back Bitcoin. But, most newbies fear the bear market. Some of them use exchanges to hold their coins and even use stop loss to avoid losing too much. No matter how many times others scream not to hold your coins in an exchange, people still do this and use stop loss so they don't lose too much. We know FUD may create a temporary bear market, and the Bitcoin market will pull back over time. Still, FUD affects the market. Moreover, it makes us lose money.
 
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Why is it that bad news always comes in a bear market and when we are in a bull market, all bad news about Bitcoin vanished? Are they doing this on purpose? It's always the bear market, after halving everything will disappear and some bans will be lifted, and so on...

Are we been played? Are these people toying with us, knowing that crypto will work but let's scare the hell out of them and take advantage of the fear? I can't come up with anything that makes more sense than this.
I always enjoy whenever FUD news comes out because for me it is profitable and we can use it to buy. You have to stop seeing the negative news that continues and deliberately appears. Bitcoin has improved a lot from its initial journey to the present and bearish and bullish market conditions can never be separated in its journey.
 
The speed of information amidst the rapid pace of technology is the problem and the source of good and bad news about bitcoin will continue to be the mainstay of breaking news. If you think you are being played, why not try to make a profit from each of these games.
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