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Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.
Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1713137 <--- Thread about Luke claiming to "have his first ASIC"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1713163 <--- Screenshot of Luke posting a picture demonstrating he has his ASIC
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8404%2F8608273267_04e5e7f50f_z.jpg&t=541&c=9DDsr5MM9BOv7Q <-- picture of the workbench at BFL the shows a disturbing similarity to the picture Luke showed

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1715316
Quote from: Miner99er on April 01, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
For this bet to be won tho, there needs to be a shipping label and/or tracking number.

Luke's reply: There is, but I'd prefer not to give the trolls my personal info.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1719599  <-- Luke finally admitting that "BFL has it at their office now only at my own request that they keep it there for the time being." The unit was not shipped to him.

For the record, I am not putting words in your mouth. I am putting them in a textarea element in an HTML page in a browser.  Wink



Was that bet on one of Sonny's betting sites or another bitcoin betting site? Also did the guys who won the bet since the deadline wasn't meant did they have good odds and came out good?
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Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.
Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1713137 <--- Thread about Luke claiming to "have his first ASIC"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1713163 <--- Screenshot of Luke posting a picture demonstrating he has his ASIC
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8404%2F8608273267_04e5e7f50f_z.jpg&t=541&c=9DDsr5MM9BOv7Q <-- picture of the workbench at BFL the shows a disturbing similarity to the picture Luke showed

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1715316
Quote from: Miner99er on April 01, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
For this bet to be won tho, there needs to be a shipping label and/or tracking number.

Luke's reply: There is, but I'd prefer not to give the trolls my personal info.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1719599  <-- Luke finally admitting that "BFL has it at their office now only at my own request that they keep it there for the time being." The unit was not shipped to him.

For the record, I am not putting words in your mouth. I am putting them in a textarea element in an HTML page in a browser.  Wink

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Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.
Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.

I'm not trying to pick a fight or stir up stuff but I can't help but comment on this for a little humor.

"Those goals just look so delicious! Mmm!"
"Don't put words in my mouth, thanks."
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Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.
Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.
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I didn't know Luke was on this forum. I do remember what the crew used to refer to him as and pretty sure Bruce can confirm. When he wasn't around they called him Chupacabra.
I can't help it! Those goals just look so delicious! Mmm!

I'm not trying to be mean all just stating facts of what I know from working at the plant.
Nah, sounds much more likely that your goal is neither.
You're not trying to be mean.
But you're also not stating facts.

What you're really trying to do is stir up fights.
I'm not falling for it.

Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.

BFL has already admitted to mining with customer equipment (under oath to the courts) and BCP has confirmed his employment with BFL. The rest is just window dressing really.
No monarchs shipped to customers. The same cast of characters singing the same tune as last year. Meanwhile the hash rate moves on.
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I didn't know Luke was on this forum. I do remember what the crew used to refer to him as and pretty sure Bruce can confirm. When he wasn't around they called him Chupacabra.
I can't help it! Those goats just look so delicious! Mmm!

I'm not trying to be mean all just stating facts of what I know from working at the plant.
Nah, sounds much more likely that your goal is neither.
You're not trying to be mean.
But you're also not stating facts.

What you're really trying to do is stir up fights.
I'm not falling for it.
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As least we're getting a heads up on this.
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I didn't know Luke was on this forum. I do remember what the crew used to refer to him as and pretty sure Bruce can confirm. When he wasn't around they called him Chupacabra. I'm not trying to be mean all just stating facts of what I know from working at the plant.
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I apologize for being a coward and not stating who I am since I'm married and have three kids (the oldest home only parttime). The only person I know for sure on this forum is Bruce with the rest being strangers to me but I want them to know the truth as to what is really going on at the plant.

That 4000 order was a rush job early this year. It was finished long time ago. Since then 50 plus assemblers have been sitting around doing nothing for months waiting to build monarchs first for those who ordered first then for those big hosting companies that ordered last. Think about that for a second before you go hunting for any lawsuits of unhappy industrial clients suing butterfly labs because of breach of contract because you won't find any. Why? Because they all have been made happy is why.

I had to laugh at the part time college students comment. Some in their mid to late twenties. Some with greencards. Some speak very little English. Some with kids like me. All work five days a week (or more) during the hours that college courses are offered. I couldn't do it if I wanted to but somehow the majority of everybody I just stated could. I don't think 10% of them can spell college and please don't take that out of context for I not implying anything rasist. I too misspell a lot of words. The crew are hard working people and many are my friends to today.
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BFL can't keep playing the "Oh well we made our best effort guess of when development would be done for our products."

If that is true then they have THE WORST development and planning team in history.

Pushing of deadlines over and over and over is unacceptable. I thought the first batch of suckers who bought BFL vaporware would have set a precedent for people to learn from their mistakes. I guess not.

Hey smoothie check this out about how bad is their development team:

You think the customers are frustrated?  You have no idea how the employees feel.  Try spending an hour swapping components you can only see through a microscope sometime...

Year 2014, design and create high performance ASIC chip, BUT swapping small components by hand! An he feels frustrated because of that. Amaizing.

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I can very plainly state that there were NO 28nm chips available during that time frame.
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Considering there were *NO* working 28nm chips until late April...

So after lying for the last 9 months the shill comes here and wants to tell the truth! RIGHT! Notice the emphasis on the "NO" chips. Please tell us more bcp19. We DO believe everything that you say. There were no chips before April and Inaba will commit seppukku if he misses the power draws! Yes we believe everything that a BFL employee says. Tell us more about you changing microscope components by hand and how were you so frustrated about that. It surely helps your customers who lost money on their BFL pre-order scheme. We know that ALL BFL customers are idiots because you made "ROI" because you asked for a refund.

There were NO chips before April. Please remember that everyone!
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FWIW, while I don't have much insider knowledge in BFL day-to-day operations, I do know that as of right now, Nimbus doesn't have software working for any 28nm BFL hardware.
Only just recently, did we finish getting BFGMiner to work properly with the Monarch (despite the announcement for its support in 4.0, there were some bugs that came up as BFL tweaked the firmware to get to the full hashrate).
Nimbus currently relies on a proprietary fork of cgminer, so they can't even deploy that right now.
And while it's possible they could use software I'm not aware of, I was recently asked (with pay) to help adjust Nimbus's operation so it could handle the Monarch - which wouldn't make sense if they already had something working.
So, at least that part of this guy's story sounds like it's completely bogus (which makes me question the whole thing, even if I can't personally refute it).

Trolls who are going to FUD against my credibility, don't bother: I'm not putting this up here for you, but for the honest people who might otherwise not know better.
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Well at least you responded, like you said, questionable whether you will be believed.

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BFL most likely did the same thing to 65nm customers.

+1

I thought the same thing last year after waiting over a YEAR for my Singles.

Surely the network would have been small enough at the time to have seen 1000s of singles hiding somewhere?
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With respect to your quote "I've had to relearn skills I have not used in 20+ years (back when I was first in the Navy) in order to change components in an effort to get these boards to run at speed.", this gives more context to PM's I've had with the user that, in my mind, validates the fact that they have been previously employed at Butterfly Labs and have insider knowledge.

Furthermore, "At that point in time, there was an order placed for 4000 boards to be built into a new type of unit that had just come out... the 250/230GH rack mount.  This is what was being built during the time frame that nibbknot claims we were building Monarchs." would seem to be a plausible explanation assuming someone, in-fact, placed an order for 4000 rackmount units.
They may well have been an employee, but if they were, they were either completely clueless about the product being produced or are upset at having been let go.  When I first saw the OP, I thought had a good idea who it was, but then there was the comments about the wife and then the kids and then the sick mother... The person I thought it was wasn't married... but after all the other lies I've seen him toss out there, those now become suspect as well.  

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I've watched and read this thread with interest.  I don't have a dog in the fight, although I've purchased bfl products and have had problems with products that required customer service.  Jody even gave me a tour of the facility back in April-May 2013.  I've never been politically correct, so forgive my ignorance for the following.

For who ever it was to say they did not see mexicans/latinos, etc. working at BFL doesn't hold up.  When I toured there, there were several men and women (some very cute I might add).  Jody said they were college kids.

My personal overall experience with them has been positive.  IMHO, both sides of the finger pointing are lying.  I think Josh stated their policy best one day on their forum.  They only care about their top 20% customers.  So are side deals done for the big fish? Probably. Do they care if your $10,000 or less order is delayed? Nope.  Are they deceptive? Depends on perception.  Illegal? Doubtful.

So let's refill the popcorn and read some more. Don't expect a smoking gun, read what is not being said, and look at it as entertainment.



 Given that "intent" differentiates between deception and an honest mistake, the fact that BFL managers are deceptive is not dependent on a persons perception other than perhaps the requirement of normally functioning cognitive abilities.
 Illegal? Acts outlawing deceptive business practices exist in most states in the USA.   It is my hope that any BFL managers responsible for the deception are eventually held to account.

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I've watched and read this thread with interest.  I don't have a dog in the fight, although I've purchased bfl products and have had problems with products that required customer service.  Jody even gave me a tour of the facility back in April-May 2013.  I've never been politically correct, so forgive my ignorance for the following.

For who ever it was to say they did not see mexicans/latinos, etc. working at BFL doesn't hold up.  When I toured there, there were several men and women (some very cute I might add).  Jody said they were college kids.

My personal overall experience with them has been positive.  IMHO, both sides of the finger pointing are lying.  I think Josh stated their policy best one day on their forum.  They only care about their top 20% customers.  So are side deals done for the big fish? Probably. Do they care if your $10,000 or less order is delayed? Nope.  Are they deceptive? Depends on perception.  Illegal? Doubtful.

So let's refill the popcorn and read some more. Don't expect a smoking gun, read what is not being said, and look at it as entertainment.



If you invested 40k plus (3200btc that would now be worth a shit ton) I think you would have a different tune. I've learned that buying coin and holding is the way to go.. You don't have to tell me 2 err i mean 3 times...
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I've watched and read this thread with interest.  I don't have a dog in the fight, although I've purchased bfl products and have had problems with products that required customer service.  Jody even gave me a tour of the facility back in April-May 2013.  I've never been politically correct, so forgive my ignorance for the following.

For who ever it was to say they did not see mexicans/latinos, etc. working at BFL doesn't hold up.  When I toured there, there were several men and women (some very cute I might add).  Jody said they were college kids.

My personal overall experience with them has been positive.  IMHO, both sides of the finger pointing are lying.  I think Josh stated their policy best one day on their forum.  They only care about their top 20% customers.  So are side deals done for the big fish? Probably. Do they care if your $10,000 or less order is delayed? Nope.  Are they deceptive? Depends on perception.  Illegal? Doubtful.

So let's refill the popcorn and read some more. Don't expect a smoking gun, read what is not being said, and look at it as entertainment.

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