I'm probably going to get in trouble for this (I did sign an NDA), but this has really gone on a bit too long and the lies are getting worse and worse.
Late Dec/Early Jan, BFL caught up on all of thier 65NM product lines and were (when available) shipping from stock. The people on this forum who would daily link to the fact that "X" was now up for sale or was taken down knew before I even did that we had product advertised or delisted. At that point in time, there was an order placed for 4000 boards to be built into a new type of unit that had just come out... the 250/230GH rack mount. This is what was being built during the time frame that nibbknot claims we were building Monarchs. I can very plainly state that there were NO 28nm chips available during that time frame.
The claim that employees were given Monarchs as X-mas presents (which he later changed to singles with the option to wait for Monarchs) is also a blatant lie. There are at least 50-60 people who can verify that we were all given 2 Jalapenos that ran between 3 and 4GH and that no one was offerred cash or a free upgrade for waiting. I remember the day well, as I had over a dozen people ask me if I wanted to buy theirs as they didn't want to learn how to use them. Since I was still saving up money to get a valve job done on my car after it broke down in the parking lot, I didn't take many people up on their offers.
Check out the link he posted... here it is again... http://www.coinware.io/. What's the first listing on there? Nimbus Mining. Look back to your own posts, you guys ragged about the 65nm product being used to offer cloud hashing at $40 per GH when it was first announced. Considering there were *NO* working 28nm chips until late April, it was impossible for them to be built in Jan/Feb.
Then there's all the other lies he's told... I'm beginning to doubt this person was ever an employee of BFL. If you were to ask a REAL employee of BFL, you'd find out that I almost never take a break. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I sat down at the table in the break room to have lunch. While I did end up getting a Nexus Tablet from the christmas party, I didn't even take it out of the box for months. To claim that I'd sit around posting from work is complete horse manure... I can't stand the tablet, I'm too used to keyboards, not tiny little buttons that take me 30 minutes to correctly type 1 sentence.
The plain and simple truth is that all you have to do is go read Josh's posts about the Monarch development and you'll know the real story. I've lost 45 pounds since I started working at BFL from the stress... in addition, I work 60-70 hours a week, first it was to keep product moving out the door, and now it's trying to get the next one working so we can send it out the door.
Joe... I'll admit, I've been ducking your question for 1 reason and 1 reason only... cause I know you'd never believe the truth. If you don't count the boards being built right now to go satisfy the cloud hashing for the first customers(as Josh posted), the only boards in existance are in the hands of the developers/engineers. I've had to relearn skills I have not used in 20+ years (back when I was first in the Navy) in order to change components in an effort to get these boards to run at speed. You think the customers are frustrated? You have no idea how the employees feel. Try spending an hour swapping components you can only see through a microscope sometime...
When nibbknot first posted, he was only at about 50% lies, but now it's like he's one of you guys and has to expand the lies because he's in the spotlight. Personally, I think he's a coward. He hides behind anonymity and tosses out the lies faster than Bick does. You want to see a picture of the 'Monarch' he claims to have built? https://products.butterflylabs.com/250-gh-s-rack-mount-bitcoin-miner.html <-- plain as day, THAT is what was being built so feverously back in Jan/Feb. Click the 2nd picture... 65nm Single boards with black heat sinks. You're trusting the word of a person who can't tell the difference between a board with 16 11MM chips on it and a board with 2 25MM chips on it, who thinks an underspeed Jalapeno is a Monarch/Single, and who is an outright coward.
I refrained from telling Bick to run with his smoking gun, because I figured I'd get in trouble at work, but now the lies are so overwhelming I don't care any longer. Take your smoking gun to the authorities Bick and then you'll find that you're just a troll who believes any lie shoveled into your face. nibbknot seems to have all the answers, but ask HIM for the pictures to back up his statements... Ask him for the proof you demand so often from others. I know you won't, because you're too afraid the bubble will burst and you'll find you were had yet again.
To the idiots that think I am trying to derail threads: I rag on Bick for 1 reason... I *KNOW* the majority of what he claims is a lie. By harping so on his other lies, sooner or later people will start to realize his current lies. Maybe nibbkknot is Bick's sockpuppet... that would explain a LOT.
Topic: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) - page 8. (Read 21127 times)
To the person who said that there were no Mexicans at the plant this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM (I just found some funny BFL videos for the time-----WOW!)
For reference.
I bet they have been selling to colo companies the whole time. Including for their 65NM chip products.
Pre-orders to raise cash. Build equipment. Sell large quantities of in-hand equipment to bulk purchase farms (because they wont drop 3M on a preorder. They need immediate delivery.). Try to catch up with the original consumer orders after the farms aren't interested anymore.
Thus defrauding the consumers.
It seems pretty obvious now.
Pre-orders to raise cash. Build equipment. Sell large quantities of in-hand equipment to bulk purchase farms (because they wont drop 3M on a preorder. They need immediate delivery.). Try to catch up with the original consumer orders after the farms aren't interested anymore.
Thus defrauding the consumers.
It seems pretty obvious now.
Classic bait and switch. Elon Musk did the same thing with the Tesla car pre-orders, but at least he readily admitted that he did.
BFL can't keep playing the "Oh well we made our best effort guess of when development would be done for our products."
If that is true then they have THE WORST development and planning team in history.
Pushing of deadlines over and over and over is unacceptable. I thought the first batch of suckers who bought BFL vaporware would have set a precedent for people to learn from their mistakes. I guess not.
I bet they have been selling to colo companies the whole time. Including for their 65NM chip products.
Pre-orders to raise cash. Build equipment. Sell large quantities of in-hand equipment to bulk purchase farms (because they wont drop 3M on a preorder. They need immediate delivery.). Try to catch up with the original consumer orders after the farms aren't interested anymore.
Thus defrauding the consumers.
It seems pretty obvious now.
Pre-orders to raise cash. Build equipment. Sell large quantities of in-hand equipment to bulk purchase farms (because they wont drop 3M on a preorder. They need immediate delivery.). Try to catch up with the original consumer orders after the farms aren't interested anymore.
Thus defrauding the consumers.
It seems pretty obvious now.
Classic bait and switch. Elon Musk did the same thing with the Tesla car pre-orders, but at least he readily admitted that he did.
I bet they have been selling to colo companies the whole time. Including for their 65NM chip products.
Pre-orders to raise cash. Build equipment. Sell large quantities of in-hand equipment to bulk purchase farms (because they wont drop 3M on a preorder. They need immediate delivery.). Try to catch up with the original consumer orders after the farms aren't interested anymore.
Thus defrauding the consumers.
It seems pretty obvious now.
Pre-orders to raise cash. Build equipment. Sell large quantities of in-hand equipment to bulk purchase farms (because they wont drop 3M on a preorder. They need immediate delivery.). Try to catch up with the original consumer orders after the farms aren't interested anymore.
Thus defrauding the consumers.
It seems pretty obvious now.
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
The guy you call Goat is next to Josh on his right. Bruce is to the left of the bearded guy (Phin). I have no idea who the other two guys are. I have no idea if BFL sold 28nm chips or not but am damn sure they were on PCBs and made into miner then delivered to various hosting outfits mostly in the KC area owned and operated by the same gain. For a person who never worked for BFL I sure do know a lot of what went on as well as the 50-60 who were assembling the miners in February forward. Very little was mailed from the dock except for replacement parts or rare orders for the oldline miners. Very little packing has taken place since the first of the year because where the miners were going the hosting cos. weren't far away.
To the person who said that there were no Mexicans at the plant this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM (I just found some funny BFL videos for the time-----WOW!)
.... The name of this movie is called BitFellas....
Ah, the delicate sounds of full-contact capitalism.
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.No one cares.
How long has BFL been shipping
You dodged it three times so we now know its true, now we want to know how long?
I changed the question slightly, they can't get the 'Monarch' to work, so whatever they are shipping will be called something different.
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.No one cares.
How long has BFL been shipping the Monarch to its secret customer base?
You dodged it three times so we now know its true, now we want to know how long?
No Monarchs have been shipped but they are shipping the cock off the Monark!
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.No one cares.
How long has BFL been shipping the Monarch to its secret customer base?
You dodged it three times so we now know its true, now we want to know how long?
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.Slok, aren't you a admin on the BFL forums?
Slok is bcp'ing it up here. BFL called in the shillenforcments!
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.Ok, he is or at leas was a Mod there. With knowledge of the warehouse, shipments, production runs, etc. So if he doesn't work for BFL that means he is a partner/owner/etc. He is just trying to be ambiguous about his relationship with the entity. Pretty sad.
He is still a mod on the forums.
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.Ok, he is or at leas was a Mod there. With knowledge of the warehouse, shipments, production runs, etc. So if he doesn't work for BFL that means he is a partner/owner/etc. He is just trying to be ambiguous about his relationship with the entity. Pretty sad.
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.Slok, aren't you a admin on the BFL forums?
Slok is bcp'ing it up here. BFL called in the shillenforcments!
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.Slok, aren't you a admin on the BFL forums?
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin.Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLoK, Goat is next to Josh, I am next to Phin. Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
SLok, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?
Goat is next to Phin, the OP never worked for BFL, BFL did not sell any 28nm chips, nice try. Next.
Josh is going to the bitcoin conference in Hong Kong. I am going too and will beat the crap out of him! 
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