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Topic: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! - page 12. (Read 1472 times)

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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

When I was a child, I also challenged my friends a lot with that typical phrase: "I'll bet with you... on a certain thing".
However, at that time the bets were always some sweets, the loan of a toy or even the completion of a challenge, it was never a bet involving money.

The problem nowadays is not exactly gambling among children, but rather the fact that they are "learning" from a very early age that all that matters in this life is "making money". They no longer see life with the objective of being happy, nowadays life teaches them from an early age that it is necessary to earn money to have a future. That's the problem.

Banning gambling helps, don't say otherwise, at least it makes fewer children enter the world of gambling at an early age. However, this also depends on what the world in which she lives is like.
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It is not gambling which is being learned but taking the risk inspite of the consequences. Gambling comes second once or as the child grows up being aware of how money is being used. They won’t instantly know how gambling works if they won’t see anyone doing it. Even with cartoons they would indirectly see its concept then will eventually associate it with things such as with proving things and using a bet as a support to their claim, and so fort. It is a bad thing indeed but we just canot control every environment they would be exposed of; we just guide them on their way as they grow up. Learned things can be unlearned or remastered.
This is the reality sad truth. These days, gambling is more accessible and easy to do, especially in the environment we have, it's easy for kids to get introduced to gambling. Gambling is everywhere already. That's why it's really good for the government will start to step in just to minimize gambling exposure to minors or just proper education for the majority.
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[...] I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
These are small habits learned from the adults around them. Unlike hereditary conditions like diabetes, gambling is a habit cultivated from a young age. A child can only mimic what the adults do in front of them. The more a child absorbs, the more they put into practice, including betting.

The encouragement to "let's bet it" is a common seed for why young people become addicted to gambling. It's a habit that makes them feel like they can conquer anything and anyone. When they win, they get their rewards, which become the driving force for further wagers.

However, the teenage environment can potentially eliminate their gambling habits, as demonstrated in my community. It all depends on how a young person interprets each win: whether it's just for fun among friends or for amusement at the expense of their peers' suffering. If it's rooted in friendship, I believe it won't become a lifelong habit, as I see it as another variation in games with close friends.
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As humans, we like to commended or preferably rewarded occasionally for being correct with a guess or prediction and it is on this attributes that gambling platforms have leveraged on to make a business that will serve as a form of entertainment and also give the players a chance to be rewarded for the right bets.

I agree that gambling is inbuilt @OP.

Gambling itself is not bad, it is the addiction that is bad. People are mostly advised about it because it is loose control to and easy to get addicted to.
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From your topic title alone I find fault in it and I don't agree. Allow me to state categorically that there is nothing that is inbuilt in any human we all learnt it through rewards and punishments. Why underaged kids gamble these days more often than before is because of how liberal our society has become with casinos. Kids are no longer cautioned or prevented from it and their are pressures from all over for them to engage in it or be left out. They choose the former because it makes them look cool. Gambling is not inbuilt. It is never in our DNA . It was learned.
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Hereditary? No. Traditional, I might agree.

There are still kids whose fathers and grandfathers are gambling and yet they won't make a stake like that even if another kid will challenge him. They don't like risk, they don't want to put their money on the line so they won't agree with those kinds of provocation.
Advertisements do work in boosting one business and I think the Australian government's aim is just to minimize the number of kids that are being exposed to gambling by means of those advertisements either in the popular streaming services or Android and iPhone applications. Sure, it looks like it doesn't work but it's too early to say that, it's a process, and they cannot just obliterate a habit that had been traditionally exposed in the environment in one decree.
I think it will work, it just needs patience and time. They just want a better place for their future and it's good that they are doing it by steps and not forcing their way which could cause chaos.
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I remember when I was still a kid and when and my friends any sport that we played, there was always that challenge to each other about betting. Yeah, pennies and small amounts only or even some toys on the stake. You're right that the kids have been doing that ever since without our knowledge because even us, we've done it in the past. Still, parental guidance is needed for these kids to let them understand the dangers of gambling when they're not yet grown up and they've become used to it. That should be the goal of every parents, and to let them know that when they used to it, that becomes an addiction and when it becomes an addiction, that's hard to control and they might do things that will make them ruin themselves for like when they get refused by their parents when they ask money, it might result to them having tantrums.
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If you say that something cannot be avoided because it is considered innate and hereditary, this invalidates majority of the people who have a negative background in their lives who changed for the better. In addition, this also invalidates the efforts of the people who changed their lives as you are stating that a person cannot change because it is within their bloodline- like that is their future.

Even iff a person came from a family background of gamblers, the former still has the discretion and option whether to continue it or not. In addition, the efforts of the Australian government to abolish gambling ads is welcomed- any kind of support and help to reduce gambling activities from minors is a welcomed and appreciated.
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They still have to watch someone to know where will they do it. The urge to gamble is always there for everyone, they just need a little push in order to do it on their own. Without watching anyone, I think the youth, or everyone in general, will have a hard time figuring things out on themselves. They don't have the innate knowledge on how or where to gamble, but they sure know that gambling nets them with something if they win.
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To some gambling might be inbuilt but to me it’s not it took me time to learn how to make predictions of games and understand the code and how they are being put into use some people might have just know them without learning but to me I have to learn them by asking question and doing some research.

It’s only some games which don’t requires one to have skill before they can partake on it that I believe they really don’t need learning it as anyone who have little knowledge about childhood play can play them games like dice rolling slot and sometimes those random number generator games they don’t need to be learned.

But for one to be a full gambler their are some games you just don’t know about them like that you need to learn them in other for you to start playing and increasing your chance of winning in that game.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
The pattern of gambling as giving here by op is a normal life style that you can equally find it with people that don't have a clue about what in-land or online gambling is all about, it's just a way of trying to back up your claims in an argument and if this is what gambling about then we won't be having the reckless increase of gambling addicts on the street of Vegas and other places in the world. Real gambling is beyond that, and it's true that it's innate in humans to quickly want to attach money to arguments because we know money value.

On the other hand, government have been up and doing to an appreciable length in reducing the explosion of gambling with it's ads advertisement in almost in every online site you batch in, and this has been the reason why kids without difficulty get to know about gambling. Even as an adult I some times get upset with the manner at which gambling are spread in every site I clicked distorting my attention to what I earlier had in mind and if you're not disciplined you can easily lose attention and deviate.
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I think kids tends to learn more from what they see, hear and I general, from their environment. In our society today, we see children of younger ages doing stuffs that even the adults might be scared to go about. Gambling is something that anyone can pick up from anywhere. Addiction is what we end up falling into. Disabling adverts showing gambling, won't stop a child whom his father gambles alot from gambling. The best thing is for the parents to advice their kids on the consequences of being addicted to gambling and why they shouldn't involve them selfs. Just like smoking, stealing or other negative habits can be herited, gambling also can be passed on.

You are right to some extent just as you said and I quote that kids tends to learn more from what they see and hear and that is the basis because even if a child seeing their parents gambling but is not aware of what gambling is about you will see that even if they wish to do what there parents are doing they may not have that zeal but if they are being publicize then they might feel that for it being publicize that there may be some benefits attached to it thereby they might start developing time and interest to know how it works, so one way or the other, gambling ads also aid in developing the interest of the child since they are easily deceived and convinced by what they see and hear
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I think a good risk taker is a good gambler for sure. No doubt about gambling inbuilt in kids because it is a masculine inclination to be competitive both for ego, for women, for rights.
 It is natural to want to prove how right one is to close people who doubt our ability. It is only more creative to have channeled such urge to be right to bet on football or games or outcomes of events, just to win and feel good about being right.
Think about it, what's the concept behind gambling if not that the right predictions win the rewards in total?
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Forget about all you're saying, children tend to learn things faster than you could thought of, if you teach them they will know and probably understand even better than you the teacher, if you don't teach them, they will also discover such and it may only take them a little while, no one brings in something from heaven, we are all taught about everything we do here and nothing than through learning, it may now be through a conscious or unconscious means we acquire all we learnt about gambling and children are most faster in learning new things.
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I don't think that gambling is hereditary, it's something that we learn from the society. I think  that what we're born with is argument, humans will go to any length to prove that their right and can even make a bet to proof the authenticity of their arguments. It's different from gambling that means to make bets with the aim of making monetary gains, whether for fun or as means of livelihood.

In my country today, you'll see a lot of lotto and sports betting shops, which was not so in the past. But due to the economic hardship in the country, the old and young  started to look for shortcuts to riches, and they see gambling as the route. Originally ninety percent of them wouldn't consider gambling as a hubby talk less of engaging in it as a source of income. So you wouldn't consider most of them as born gamblers, it's circumstances that drove them into it. Again the bet adverts that is very common on TV and social media, giving the impression that gambling is an easy way to success, they're the factors that are responsible for making gambling inbuilt in our society today, not that it's in us from birth. My opinion.
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I don't believe anybody is born with gambling addiction neither is it hereditary.
If a child wasn't exposed to gambling they won't gamble. Those kids you saw have seen it somewhere before they could bet amongst themselves. You guys underestimate the power of the society and environment kids grow up in.
Nobody will grow up in an environment where he doesn't see people place bets or gamble and then grow up to be someone who gambles, talk more of having gambling addictions.

Gambling and bet companies invest a lot in marketing. During sports matches, all the ads you see as gambling ads, don't underestimate that.
What Australia is trying to do will not eliminate gambling completely, but it will reduce the rate at which people gamble.
I don't think it's right for them to stop gambling ads, but I also believe their strategy would work in the long run.
Gambling can be all sort of different form that human actually practice without them noticing it, because the urge to always win is something that is natural among the human race but although I agree that environment hold a very big factor to the influence of a child but the fact still remains that although they are not exposed to such act they still involved in competitious act that is  built-in them .
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I agree with @OP that betting and gambling is already inculcated in human DNA.  If it is not then gambling will not exist.  Aside from that through observation, these kids can mimic the adults when they hear some bet being done among their relatives.  I am sure the adults surrounding those kids are often seen betting on the issues seen in the media, so it won't be surprising these kids will do the same.

Tycoons and rich people are smart people who mitigate risk in order to achieve their goal, I do not think they are gamblers but rather risk takers who know how to minimize the risk to zero.

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...We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
Parents are role models for their children. Children usually find it easier to understand or follow what their parents do when the children are still minors. But on the other hand, their emotional maturity is certainly not good, they even tend to be unstable. In this case, it cannot be denied that when children see their parents gambling even in front of their eyes, of course the child will also be curious about what their parents are doing. Even interested in trying. Moreover, there are many children who really like to follow what their parents do, so if this gambling happens or even often in front of them or they know we are gambling then they will join in. So, in this case, the role of parents is very big in preventing or preventing their children from entering the world of gambling.

At least set an example in front of them that we don't gamble, even though we actually gamble, but try not to let them know about this. This can actually be a pretty big trigger.

On the other hand, apart from parents, there are other factors that make children interested in gambling, namely the advertisements that easily appear on the platforms they visit. Even on online gaming platforms, gambling advertisements often occur. So, if the government makes such a regulation, it might not be in vain. At least that could be one way to prevent children from being underage for gambling. It's not the only way but it could be said to be one way. So, this won't be in vain.
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People are gambling by nature that's for sure. If that's not the case then we wouldn't have risk-takers and successful tycoons after all. The problem with kids gambling however, is that they are exposed to it at a much earlier age instead of when they are of legal recognition, when they're more responsible for their actions and thoughts.  Australian government taking a crackdown approach at stopping kids from being exposed to gambling at such a precarious age in their lives is a good thing as it makes sure that they don't get the wrong connotations and all that stuff. To say that their efforts are futile because every kid's a gambler in nature almost sounds like "we should not have laws anymore since humans are inherently evil anyway". Do you see the flawed logic behind that statement of yours?
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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is no way that can lead to addiction.
Yes if gambling ads are banned and other gambling promotions which have been constantly put at our faces without regard to the risk this could pause for the weekend but then also the government in the part of the world needs to do a lot in the area and there should come up with gambling regulations for the country and how it operates and within what level they can operate.

Our TV stations have become a home for gambling adverts with a lot of celebrities now becoming casino ambassadors and also promoting them to their fans.
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