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I don't believe anybody is born with gambling addiction neither is it hereditary.
If a child wasn't exposed to gambling they won't gamble. Those kids you saw have seen it somewhere before they could bet amongst themselves. You guys underestimate the power of the society and environment kids grow up in.
Nobody will grow up in an environment where he doesn't see people place bets or gamble and then grow up to be someone who gambles, talk more of having gambling addictions.

Gambling and bet companies invest a lot in marketing. During sports matches, all the ads you see as gambling ads, don't underestimate that.
What Australia is trying to do will not eliminate gambling completely, but it will reduce the rate at which people gamble.
I don't think it's right for them to stop gambling ads, but I also believe their strategy would work in the long run.
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They only attached addiction to gambling, they're not really the same imo. It's more like "addiction" can be inherited, not gambling addiction itself. It's something similar to how you do the same things as your parents, in some cases though, the direction can be skewed. So e.g. if your parents was addicted to working, it wouldn't be odd for you to be addicted to working as well but it also wouldn't be weird if you were addicted to something else, in this case, gambling.

Plus, it's just kid doing kid stuff. Even amongst the hundreds of other classmates I've had across my life, I've said "wanna bet on it" probably more than a thousand times and a lof of the opposing party didn't necessarily fall into gambling, at least afaik.
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If gambling ads are banned and kids do not see such a thing, this will reduce the way kids are gambling. In my country as an example, there are gambling ads everywhere, on YouTube and TV channels, in a way kids can easily know that they can go online to gamble. It is true that gambling is in the mind of humans naturally, but the explanation of the kids that you explained is different from the land based and online gambling because there is nio way that can lead to addiction.
This can result to a big changed in number when it comes to young people getting exposed in gambling but still if the parents are still exposing their own children to any kind of gambling, then sooner or later they will still know it and yes betting is the easiest way to gamble even if you are still young. This could be part of the human nature already but of course they still need our guidance and we should continue to discourage them from getting involve in gambling.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

Australian economy was the well developed economy,So they not bother about their citizen to get involve in the gambling.Their full view on the kids and younger generation should not get into the addiction of gambling at the younger ages.For this reason,the Australia had stopped the usage of the credit cards to the gambling.So the kids can’t use the credit cards without the knowledge of their parents.In Australia the kids was random encounter of captured by their parents and many escalated for the miss use the credit cards by their children.So the stopping gambling ads can reduce the certain population to the gambling,but not high percentage.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
Gambling addiction isnt really something which is heriditary on which anyone could really be that getting addicted on the time that you do make yourself that being careful on the actions that you are making.
When it comes on being young and having no experience on what are the things that we do have around then for sure you would really be that most likely be having that chance that
we would really be that curious and we would really be that tending to engage out of it on which it is really that a common approach. There are indeed things in life on which we do really naturally
be making out some bets in against with other peoples choices too on which on the time that making things that a little bit exciting then you would really be adding up some money in correlation to it.
This isnt really that someone couldnt really be able to do from time to time though and its true that this isnt really be just talking about into those situations but also
this could really be done into various things which agreements and betting whether it would happen something or not. Being on young age will really be that its true that
there would really be scenarios just like this.
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I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"

This is just a common behavior of children or school going kids, where in an argument they say that whoever is wrong, will give a treat or something like this. I would not call it gambling. This may be an instant reaction of the kids that in order to prove themselves right, they opt to put a monetary element so whoever is proved wrong will give the other child the money.

The real gambling is making an account of a gambling site, playing casino games and doing sports betting is something which is learned by kids through adults and this is in no way being built into the children. If it was a natural thing, everyone would be gambling but there are many people who never gamble at all.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify.

Gambling is inbuilt and also it's learnt from watching others do it, those kids would have seen others do it before they learnt it. They could have seen it on movies as we have betting scenes in some movies. They would have also heard others talk about doing it or seen them in the act as they're betting. We have many things we inherited that are in us but if we don't activate then they won't come out. Banning gambling ads will help reduce the rate of underage gambling, also the government's should restrict movies from putting to many gambling scenes in children rated movies.

Kids are learning things from different sources therefore if we want to have results in reduction of underage gambling, we have to look at all the places that can teach children how to gamble. Kids are always interested in doing things they see therefore when they see adults gambling, they'll also want to gamble to make some money. Teaching kids gambling education can also help them as they start to know the disadvantage of gambling at early ages.

Peers infect each other easily. And many things are learnt in school, than at home. Parents don't spend as much time with their kids, like the kids do with peers. They spend most of it in school. Most parents have only weekends to communicate with the kids. Thereby the friendship or relationship for the child to easily unveils things like gambling to the parents, won't exist. Kid keep most of these attitudes to themselves. And doesn't say a thing about it once they see an adult approaching towards them. They could be scared or not. Most times some things in the society is beyond our understanding. Especially activities that has been in existence for centuries. It's certain to meet school children whose neighborhood exposed them to gambling. It'll be simpler for other kids to learn gambling discussions from them. And then disseminate it amongst any available child. Similarly, they'll take it home and influence kids in their street or home. You'd see that the fight of controlling it through Ads doesn't add much meaning. Because in the school, a friend will definitely influence another. So, talking about gambling education, it could be beneficial, but easily will it be abused by the kids. They are known for turning things upside down. If they begin hearing gambling often and then in classes. It could lead them to gamble, for money. They should be a means of taking gambling off their mind. But that way may not be existence in the society of today. If we don't activate the inbuilt gambling habit, others, peers, can help us with that. It's like an involuntary action; gravity. And remember all parents are not thesame. Some are busier than the other. You could be training your kids to stay clear from gambling, while the other parent is not concerned or not aware of giving his kids similar training. They'll be a change of thought whenever your kid comes to befriend the other child whose parents don't care about gambling restrictions on kid. Who will be the influencer?
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Also i am not sure where you live where under 10 year olds can gamble. Because even in online you'll need to kyc at some point and there's no way 9 year olds can successfully do that. I guess that advertisement would affect to children if they had a change to gamble, but in my country that wouldn't be even possible.
He is only using the 10 years old children as an example that gambling is inborn. If you read his post and understand, you will noticed that he is referring to the children and is his own youth time too about how they will say let us bet to know if they get something right or wrong and they may not even bet. 10 year old children can not be able to gamble online or on land based casinos. With his explanation, I will also say that gambling is inborn.

It's always the people surrounding the kids and the environment where they can easily learn all this stuff.
I do not think so but environment also matter to some extent. I can remember that there is no online gambling site very well when I was young, but you will see children gambling among themselves. You might nit know unless you investigate, although I am not talking about online gambling and land based casinos and betting agent, but gambling among themselves.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
It's being nurtured as well, it may not be directly being shown to them but somehow you won't be able to see this especially when they are out at home. Kids can easily imitate what their peers are doing or they somehow seen it from other adults outside.
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Addiction isn't hereditary like diabetics but the environment where they grew up is probably the factor that led them into that way.

I have that understanding too about how environment can easily influence children to do what they normally are not suppose to do. I wonder if the children of a wealthy man would say lets bet on it, like where would they learn that from? But children of ghetto are easily seeing all sorts of negative influence which becomes part of them till adulthood.

It is the environment that shapes people majorly in regards to social activities and influence, I don't think genes has a connection to gambling but the point is when the children sees the action of the parents, they learn either the good or the good aspect of what they see.

It's always the people surrounding the kids and the environment where they can easily learn all this stuff. Kids who live in the coastal marshes learn to swim as early as possible than those who live in the city whose opportunity to swim is just in the pools.

Kids living in a neighborhood filled with gamblers where the word "bet" is often spoken. They easily learn it even if their parents are not into it because kids bet against each other using the cards they collect. It's part of the games they play these days.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling.

It's not about a complete stoppage as it seems impossible to happened as long as gambling there is legal, but what matters there is, the gambling activity for underage or minors will be reduced. It's good to see such country having a focus on that problem rather than doing nothing.

I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans.

I understand the situation. As you mentioned, during those days when having phones or the internet was not a thing, as a kid, I was already involved in gambling without even seeing ads related to it, seeing adults doing that thing, or anything.

It's a common thing to encounter while we grow up that's why it's totally nonsense to me to hide gambling from kids since that will just make them curious. But look at me, even though I was involved in gambling during my youngster days I didn't end up irresponsible. It's because of our natural common sense where we know what's right or wrong.

I do believe that those kids that do some kiddy gambling activity like the one you shared on your story are just for entertainment and there is no way they will treat gambling seriously at that age. The purpose of those kids in the story is to determine who's right between and not to earn money out from that betting.
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It is not gambling which is being learned but taking the risk inspite of the consequences. Gambling comes second once or as the child grows up being aware of how money is being used. They won’t instantly know how gambling works if they won’t see anyone doing it. Even with cartoons they would indirectly see its concept then will eventually associate it with things such as with proving things and using a bet as a support to their claim, and so fort. It is a bad thing indeed but we just canot control every environment they would be exposed of; we just guide them on their way as they grow up. Learned things can be unlearned or remastered.

"It is not gambling which is being learned but taking the risk inspite of the consequences."

This is an awesome explanation. I think it has a lot to do with how and if children value money or not, in what type of environment they grew up and also whether or not they received financial education in general. Not on a high level like formulas, but basic accounting and calculation and the skill to delay rewards. I think addiction can often be found in people when they have an issue to delay rewards or not have the required mental control over themselves. Gambling, like alcohol, has moments of instant rewards and that changes the brain over time in an addicted engine that's only running on excess dopamine if issues get worse. That is when consequences decrease in perceived significance and the need for short term rewards increases in perceived significance.
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Addiction isn't hereditary like diabetics but the environment where they grew up is probably the factor that led them into that way.

I have that understanding too about how environment can easily influence children to do what they normally are not suppose to do. I wonder if the children of a wealthy man would say lets bet on it, like where would they learn that from? But children of ghetto are easily seeing all sorts of negative influence which becomes part of them till adulthood.

It is the environment that shapes people majorly in regards to social activities and influence, I don't think genes has a connection to gambling but the point is when the children sees the action of the parents, they learn either the good or the good aspect of what they see.
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Government doesn't encourage such advertisements that is the fact but legally minors aren't allowed to gamble either online or offline so if they do means they are violating the platform's term and breaking the law then they have no defense at all if something goes wrong even as a legitimate mistake.
Many gambling platforms do not really put strict restrictions, they expect minors to be able to still register, but they throw in the requirements if they win something big and then refuse to pay them.


If you say so then you are not considering the terms of their platform seriously but it has to be taken seriously cause if you are found violating the terms then your account will be terminated. And I don't know in what sense you are saying online casinos are allowing minors to gamble because legally they can't get verified if they are underage so if a minor is registering with someone's identity then the user is forging the Identity and they are responsible if they served with a felony.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument. I was able to memorize, back when I was a kid. We easily said, how much would you bet if it turns out I'm saying the truth; during an argument. It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid. But we still said things like "let's bet it"
I don't think that gambling itself isn't hereditary, but more like attributes that could lead to dopamine and rush seeking life style. And not everyone gambles because of those either so it's weird to clam that gambling itself would be hereditary when we aren't even talking about gambling addiction.

Also i am not sure where you live where under 10 year olds can gamble. Because even in online you'll need to kyc at some point and there's no way 9 year olds can successfully do that. I guess that advertisement would affect to children if they had a change to gamble, but in my country that wouldn't be even possible.
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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify. And I lost sight of them. I thought about, how come or who thought these kids about betting money during a long argument.
Though the biological traits of the parents of a child speaks more volume on how he/she behave and acts in public, but at times don't be surprised that those kids must have heard or seen it been done by someone elsewhere, and as such tried to implement it during an argument with his/her friend, because kids this days are too smart that they learn very fast, and as such, ought to be guided while growing up,  because at age 10yrs, gambling or betting is the last thing parents should let their child do, because that's how the spirit of gambling grows, and the best way to avoid such, is for parents to stop gambling while in front of their kids.
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We are human and most time when we are telling somebody about what we are sure of and the person is also coming up with a different answer, to seal up the argument on who is right, a bet can be at stake. This will be a prize to pay for feeling that you are right when you are wrong.

You are right OP, you should also know that some habits are easily learnt, that is why there are some things that we don't need to do in the present of our kids because children are fast in learning these days. I believe that nobody taught anyone how to gamble but the mentality to use money to show you are a pro in a game or to make prediction about the outcome of an event that is yet to happen is in human nature.

Most times things that we bet on, are things that we feel that we know about.
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It made me understand that, despite during those days we had no phones or access to the internet, gambling is somehow embedded to the brain of humans. Then, as a child, we weren't exposed to gambling. I could only remember of lotto, as a kid.
We are exposed to gambling subconsciously during our daily activities. It does not just have to be detailed ads on it but routine activities we do that involves taking a risk to get something in return. Children pick up this subtle behaviors and absorb them which will reflect in how they act.

This does not suggest at all that gambling is hereditary.

Government doesn't encourage such advertisements that is the fact but legally minors aren't allowed to gamble either online or offline so if they do means they are violating the platform's term and breaking the law then they have no defense at all if something goes wrong even as a legitimate mistake.
Many gambling platforms do not really put strict restrictions, they expect minors to be able to still register, but they throw in the requirements if they win something big and then refuse to pay them.

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The Australian Government once said about abolishing gambling ads as a means of reducing gambling activities amongst underage people. But, I think they'll be no successful way of stopping young people from gambling. As it's in them. Most articles here also say things like gambling addiction being hereditary. That means gambling can be hereditary as well. Because I just watched from a distant two kids below 10 years, staking bets, after a long argument about who the artiste of a specific song is. They later staked close to 40 cents each, for the person who gets the answer right. Then they went ahead to verify.

Gambling is inbuilt and also it's learnt from watching others do it, those kids would have seen others do it before they learnt it. They could have seen it on movies as we have betting scenes in some movies. They would have also heard others talk about doing it or seen them in the act as they're betting. We have many things we inherited that are in us but if we don't activate then they won't come out. Banning gambling ads will help reduce the rate of underage gambling, also the government's should restrict movies from putting to many gambling scenes in children rated movies.

Kids are learning things from different sources therefore if we want to have results in reduction of underage gambling, we have to look at all the places that can teach children how to gamble. Kids are always interested in doing things they see therefore when they see adults gambling, they'll also want to gamble to make some money. Teaching kids gambling education can also help them as they start to know the disadvantage of gambling at early ages.
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I think kids tends to learn more from what they see, hear and I general, from their environment. In our society today, we see children of younger ages doing stuffs that even the adults might be scared to go about. Gambling is something that anyone can pick up from anywhere. Addiction is what we end up falling into. Disabling adverts showing gambling, won't stop a child whom his father gambles alot from gambling. The best thing is for the parents to advice their kids on the consequences of being addicted to gambling and why they shouldn't involve them selfs. Just like smoking, stealing or other negative habits can be herited, gambling also can be passed on.
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