I wonder if food prices in your country have also increased?

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on September 25, 2023, 08:11:21 PM

Of course food prices have increased, what did you expect out of a fiat economy? The governments can print as much money as they want, and they have to, in order to keep a old generation money system (barely) working. Of course the government is not entirely to blame. We need better, cleaner and more efficient ways to produce energy and transport it.

Fusion energy and new generation of batteries will be coming in the near future and I think that will solve 99% of the problems that we have in our modern age.

Bitcoin will of course be the top money once the governments see reason and decide to give up on their centuries-old pyramid scheme. And they will have to give up, since by making something decentralized and uncontrollable by third parties, we take their options away from them. We force their corrupt little selves to acknowledge the future.

Governments can print money, which raises prices, even food. The need for energy advances is clear. Fusion energy and new batteries could transform the energy sector and other industries, improving efficiency and possibly stabilizing prices

You're optimistic about Bitcoin for good cause. Its decentralization and lack of third-party control reduce government power. If properly integrated into the global economy, it might be a stable currency. However, this is a major change that will provide substantial problems and oppositions. The path ahead is lengthy and unpredictable

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Normally, September should have entered the rainy season. And usually the rainy season starts at the beginning of the month. But currently, in September, there are only signs of the arrival of the rainy season. Because even though a few days ago there was rain coming to my area. But there are no signs of rain again. Maybe this year's rainy season will start in October. And farmers have been waiting for this.

But now there are things to worry about that will impact price changes on a global scale. Namely, there is news that the price of oil and gas has increased again. But fortunately the increase is not that high. So the impact is not yet felt.

The news of an increase in fuel prices is not just a rumor but has actually been implemented now. And actually the increase has occurred since September 1. I don't know about your area, but in my area the increase has occurred since September 1st. Where the fuel increase actually only applies to non-subsidized fuel. And the increase that occurred was actually quite high, namely around 10 percent for each type of fuel oil.

And clearly this increase has caused transportation costs to increase. Not only that, you have to check the prices of snacks in traditional markets. You will be surprised at the increase that occurs. But there are some products that choose not to increase prices. But they reduced the contents of their products. So it's the same.

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You are right, it turns out that this is an increase for non-subsidized fuel only. Meanwhile, the price of fuel which is subsidized by the government does not appear to have increased significantly. Only a few percent. I mostly use subsidized fuel so I didn't realize the increase in non-subsidized fuel which has actually gone up as you said. I think in our country every year fuel prices never stop increasing. So it is not surprising that the prices of basic necessities will not stop increasing. I think the value of the fiat that we currently hold is slowly continuing to decline in value. And this convinced me not to keep my savings in fiat.

If one pays closer attention, even now the Rupiah exchange rate against the Dollar is also weakening. But usually this will go up and down at certain periods. But currently 1 Dollar is still staying at a level above Rp. 15,000 Rupiah for quite a long time. This could indicate a sign regarding the Indonesian economy.

But I'm not too worried about that. Because I am more worried about the climate which is still hot in my area. And because I shop at the market quite regularly, I keep paying attention to market prices and sometimes see the stock of certain types of food starting to decline. The price is rising because availability is not commensurate with customer demand. I even have to water some of the vegetables that I plant in my yard at home regularly. One day I forgot to water the plants and the next day my plants turned blonde due to the heat. So now I even started shopping for vegetables from the market. Even though I usually have vegetables available in my small garden.

In my country have rained last week. But that was a few weeks ago. And only light rain which seems to be the same in many other areas too. But unfortunately until now the weather is actually getting hotter here. But it doesn't seem as hot as where you are. Because it seems like your place is very hot so the vegetables can turn yellow in just one day. that doesn't happen in my area. Maybe you are in the lowlands where the climate usually feels hotter. Meanwhile, my area is in the highlands.

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Thank you to all of you.

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Quote from: Uruhara on September 19, 2023, 08:13:44 AM

Normally, September should have entered the rainy season. And usually the rainy season starts at the beginning of the month. But currently, in September, there are only signs of the arrival of the rainy season. Because even though a few days ago there was rain coming to my area. But there are no signs of rain again. Maybe this year's rainy season will start in October. And farmers have been waiting for this.

But now there are things to worry about that will impact price changes on a global scale. Namely, there is news that the price of oil and gas has increased again. But fortunately the increase is not that high. So the impact is not yet felt.

The news of an increase in fuel prices is not just a rumor but has actually been implemented now. And actually the increase has occurred since September 1. I don't know about your area, but in my area the increase has occurred since September 1st. Where the fuel increase actually only applies to non-subsidized fuel. And the increase that occurred was actually quite high, namely around 10 percent for each type of fuel oil.

And clearly this increase has caused transportation costs to increase. Not only that, you have to check the prices of snacks in traditional markets. You will be surprised at the increase that occurs. But there are some products that choose not to increase prices. But they reduced the contents of their products. So it's the same.

Sourch: rejabar.republika.co.id

You are right, it turns out that this is an increase for non-subsidized fuel only. Meanwhile, the price of fuel which is subsidized by the government does not appear to have increased significantly. Only a few percent. I mostly use subsidized fuel so I didn't realize the increase in non-subsidized fuel which has actually gone up as you said. I think in our country every year fuel prices never stop increasing. So it is not surprising that the prices of basic necessities will not stop increasing. I think the value of the fiat that we currently hold is slowly continuing to decline in value. And this convinced me not to keep my savings in fiat.

If one pays closer attention, even now the Rupiah exchange rate against the Dollar is also weakening. But usually this will go up and down at certain periods. But currently 1 Dollar is still staying at a level above Rp. 15,000 Rupiah for quite a long time. This could indicate a sign regarding the Indonesian economy.

But I'm not too worried about that. Because I am more worried about the climate which is still hot in my area. And because I shop at the market quite regularly, I keep paying attention to market prices and sometimes see the stock of certain types of food starting to decline. The price is rising because availability is not commensurate with customer demand. I even have to water some of the vegetables that I plant in my yard at home regularly. One day I forgot to water the plants and the next day my plants turned blonde due to the heat. So now I even started shopping for vegetables from the market. Even though I usually have vegetables available in my small garden.

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Of course food prices have increased, what did you expect out of a fiat economy? The governments can print as much money as they want, and they have to, in order to keep a old generation money system (barely) working. Of course the government is not entirely to blame. We need better, cleaner and more efficient ways to produce energy and transport it.

Fusion energy and new generation of batteries will be coming in the near future and I think that will solve 99% of the problems that we have in our modern age.

Bitcoin will of course be the top money once the governments see reason and decide to give up on their centuries-old pyramid scheme. And they will have to give up, since by making something decentralized and uncontrollable by third parties, we take their options away from them. We force their corrupt little selves to acknowledge the future.

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The first thing you should establish is whether or not you guys are living in the same country. If you are not, then you can't expect the same arrangement as his at all times. However, his own narration best fits my country and many countries I've been to, you get to purchase the farm products very cheaply when you are living near to the farmers, and it could be ridiculously cheap at times to the point that what you buy there might be priced x5 elsewhere in the city. It might not necessarily be a far place, it might be a neighbouring town to you, and this kind of jumbo happens in many places in my country as long as they are border towns.

There are many petty farmers who are primarily farming to feed their families and make a little money for other reasons. Once there are many in that neighbourhood, supply will crash the price and you can be surprised at what you are buying for your money. I've even seen Youtubers making mention of this. So, it's real.

Alright, that's basically what I'm saying. 5 times cheaper, eh? Don't have such market near you, take a ride to a neighboring town. I mean, there's always a solution. But still I suggest to ask people around. Maybe such market is organized once per month and you keep missing it. Because I'm not talking about the place I live, I'm talking about many countries. I forgot to mention Cannes in France and Istanbul in Turkey.

I think I now understand you but such can't be in every city and in some close proximities to everyone. And where you find it, it might be a whole long journey from where you live or not convenient time as you might not be available during their market days. A market that is being marketed in just a month is not worth it as one can't gaurranty to be available due to work and other engagements, so it's still preferable if you can easily go to the neighbouring town to stock for the month or bi-monthly depending on what you are buying.

Some people are now wiser in my country due to inflation, they don't like buying it expensive anymore, they buy in bulk. Five people could arrange for a vehicle that will convey them to and fro to stock the house and it always save them a lot compare to buying it within the metropolis.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on September 25, 2023, 12:23:34 PM

It certainly did. Fast food here was so cheap back then it was a perfect alternative to a full meal if you're low on cash and short on time. Nowadays you'd be lucky if you're able to spend less than 2 dollars which mind you is already a big amount of money for the majority of people from where I live.

And that 2 dollars of food is almost nothing at all. It's not going to fill your stomach and just like some food that you can survive for that meal and then you'll get hungry again later.

Quote from: Casdinyard on September 25, 2023, 12:23:34 PM

Jesus you'd be able to fill up a grocery cart to the brim in under 60 bucks back then, now you'd be lucky to be even be able to fill your shopping cart halfway.

Things have been progressively worsening over time and we don't see any signs of it ever recovering any time soon.

It's the sad thing that we can't see for now, the recovery of the entire economy and if there's any hope then I think it's just from those rich people where opportunities are endless for them. They can keep with the inflation and even with continuous price increase for the groceries, it's no biggie to them as they can survive with their wealth, businesses and high paying jobs. Unlike a commoner, it's a real struggle and you'll just get bare something for the day when you're just earning minimum wage.

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Quote from: Dobabe on September 25, 2023, 11:43:09 AM

Price of food in my country is very expensive, some salary earners cannot afford their daily needs due to the cost of food in my country. And some farmers will say is because of the last year flood that destroyed there farm and crops such as plaintain farm, yam farm and rice farm so they have decided to increase the price of food in the market. Also the cost of transportation due to the fuel subsidy in my country has also contributed to the cost of food in my country , due to the cost of food in market money has never been enough.

I agree - natural disasters, wars, etc. events have a very strong impact (negative) on the cost of food.
But the logistical component... It is often put as almost the main indicator of price growth..... But that's not true.
A simple example. A truck, for example, transports 10,000 tons of flour.
It consumes 60 liters of gasoline per 100 kilometers. A liter cost, for example, 1 dollar/liter. It went up to 2 dollars (100%).

So for 10,000 kilometers of flour:
it cost 60 dollars.
It became: 120 dollars.

Or in the cost of 1 kg of flour, was 0.006 dollars per kilogram of flour.
Became... Yes yes, $0.012 per kilogram of flour.

of course, the example is not linked to real figures, but it is close, but the level of "influence" of fuel cost per kilogram of production is very well visible.

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It certainly did. Fast food here was so cheap back then it was a perfect alternative to a full meal if you're low on cash and short on time. Nowadays you'd be lucky if you're able to spend less than 2 dollars which mind you is already a big amount of money for the majority of people from where I live. Not to mention the price of goods too, Jesus you'd be able to fill up a grocery cart to the brim in under 60 bucks back then, now you'd be lucky to be even be able to fill your shopping cart halfway.

Things have been progressively worsening over time and we don't see any signs of it ever recovering any time soon.

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Price of food in my country is very expensive, some salary earners cannot afford their daily needs due to the cost of food in my country. And some farmers will say is because of the last year flood that destroyed there farm and crops such as plaintain farm, yam farm and rice farm so they have decided to increase the price of food in the market. Also the cost of transportation due to the fuel subsidy in my country has also contributed to the cost of food in my country , due to the cost of food in market money has never been enough.

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Yes, the food is very expensive here, its prices almost doubled or tripled, so you really have to adjust.
In the past few days, I've been struggling a bit because the salary I used to earn was not enough, so I thought of getting a part time job so that I could somehow save a little. So you really need to make an extra effort to eat three times a day. The cost of living will even be much higher in the future

Problems like this seem to have become quite common. That is, the salary we receive does not increase, but the price of daily necessities increases and makes the salary we get, which is usually enough to meet our needs, not enough to meet our needs. High inflation that has not stopped at all is a problem for the majority of people throughout the world today. And you are right that extra effort is needed so that we can survive and still have money left to save and invest. Working part time has now become a trend that many people do to increase their income.

Extra effort and a big need for proper education on how you budget your money. No wonder it's not just with a third world country but also with 1st class economy.

Everyone in the world, especially those who are on the poor side of each country, has this issue,
they can live a life with a surviving method, things that needed to think first before you spend your money
in order to continue moving forward.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 24, 2023, 08:04:11 AM

Yes, the food is very expensive here, its prices almost doubled or tripled, so you really have to adjust.
In the past few days, I've been struggling a bit because the salary I used to earn was not enough, so I thought of getting a part time job so that I could somehow save a little. So you really need to make an extra effort to eat three times a day. The cost of living will even be much higher in the future

Problems like this seem to have become quite common. That is, the salary we receive does not increase, but the price of daily necessities increases and makes the salary we get, which is usually enough to meet our needs, not enough to meet our needs. High inflation that has not stopped at all is a problem for the majority of people throughout the world today. And you are right that extra effort is needed so that we can survive and still have money left to save and invest. Working part time has now become a trend that many people do to increase their income.

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Yes, the food is very expensive here, its prices almost doubled or tripled, so you really have to adjust.
In the past few days, I've been struggling a bit because the salary I used to earn was not enough, so I thought of getting a part time job so that I could somehow save a little. So you really need to make an extra effort to eat three times a day. The cost of living will even be much higher in the future

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The first thing you should establish is whether or not you guys are living in the same country. If you are not, then you can't expect the same arrangement as his at all times. However, his own narration best fits my country and many countries I've been to, you get to purchase the farm products very cheaply when you are living near to the farmers, and it could be ridiculously cheap at times to the point that what you buy there might be priced x5 elsewhere in the city. It might not necessarily be a far place, it might be a neighbouring town to you, and this kind of jumbo happens in many places in my country as long as they are border towns.

There are many petty farmers who are primarily farming to feed their families and make a little money for other reasons. Once there are many in that neighbourhood, supply will crash the price and you can be surprised at what you are buying for your money. I've even seen Youtubers making mention of this. So, it's real.

Alright, that's basically what I'm saying. 5 times cheaper, eh? Don't have such market near you, take a ride to a neighboring town. I mean, there's always a solution. But still I suggest to ask people around. Maybe such market is organized once per month and you keep missing it. Because I'm not talking about the place I live, I'm talking about many countries. I forgot to mention Cannes in France and Istanbul in Turkey.

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Quote from: woez on September 21, 2023, 09:27:58 PM

There is always the opportunity for speculans to increase the price of basic commodities, especially rice, I think the government should read this too. Don't just make laws that benefit parties when the object being carried is always the community, especially in this case farmers. I'm the lightest one of the rice producers and is known for the title of rice barn and at the end of the story they have to import rice from other countries, it's sad to see.

Importation is happening now because of the news about the El ñino that's going to last up to next year or so. That's why many countries that have a staple food of rice are importing to secure their buffering stocks. In my country, it's just sad that we're a rice country and we've got vast lands for agricultural products like rice but we're importing because we've got a shortage problem. We're no longer sufficient in producing food for ourselves and that's why we're importing. Even with that, the importation affects the farmers, the prices and the stocks. The price of rice has increased significantly and right now, there's a price ceiling that has been set by our president to control it but it's just a temporary solution.

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Normally, September should have entered the rainy season. And usually the rainy season starts at the beginning of the month. But currently, in September, there are only signs of the arrival of the rainy season. Because even though a few days ago there was rain coming to my area. But there are no signs of rain again. Maybe this year's rainy season will start in October. And farmers have been waiting for this.

But now there are things to worry about that will impact price changes on a global scale. Namely, there is news that the price of oil and gas has increased again. But fortunately the increase is not that high. So the impact is not yet felt.

The news of an increase in fuel prices is not just a rumor but has actually been implemented now. And actually the increase has occurred since September 1. I don't know about your area, but in my area the increase has occurred since September 1st. Where the fuel increase actually only applies to non-subsidized fuel. And the increase that occurred was actually quite high, namely around 10 percent for each type of fuel oil.

And clearly this increase has caused transportation costs to increase. Not only that, you have to check the prices of snacks in traditional markets. You will be surprised at the increase that occurs. But there are some products that choose not to increase prices. But they reduced the contents of their products. So it's the same.

Sourch: rejabar.republika.co.id

You are right, it turns out that this is an increase for non-subsidized fuel only. Meanwhile, the price of fuel which is subsidized by the government does not appear to have increased significantly. Only a few percent. I mostly use subsidized fuel so I didn't realize the increase in non-subsidized fuel which has actually gone up as you said. I think in our country every year fuel prices never stop increasing. So it is not surprising that the prices of basic necessities will not stop increasing. I think the value of the fiat that we currently hold is slowly continuing to decline in value. And this convinced me not to keep my savings in fiat.

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Quote from: Out of mind on September 19, 2023, 05:07:33 AM

Today in all the countries of the world food prices have increased and in my country too food prices have increased a lot. Most of the people in the area where I live are working people, and they work hard to get their food. Economically impoverishment and people have to live in a lot of scarcity during this time due to which they are unable to buy their food. As people do not have money, they are not able to cultivate the land well, and they are not able to buy any food and eat it in a healthy condition. There are many children of poor families in my area they try hard to eat one meal, but they cannot eat those meals, rather they face many problems due to lack of food. In the region where I live, due to rising food prices, many families and everyone including children are living in poverty and cannot get enough food on time, causing families to succumb to various illnesses. That is why the government of every country should look after all these poor sufferers and reduce the price of food and provide people with good health care and jobs so that every family does not have to worry about their food.

Currently, the global economic condition is experiencing a severe crisis, although it is not evenly distributed, but the situation is very pronounced. I see several factors that influence this, such as the increase in food prices and other commodities, which makes the inflation rate increasingly out of control. A number of producing countries are starting to worry about the current situation so they are changing economic policies in their own countries, resulting in other countries not having the capacity or sufficient food reserves for their citizens.

I see that global conditions are increasingly uncertain due to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine which has not improved, extreme weather changes have had an impact on agricultural products and as a result almost all countries have limited export activities, especially food. If this condition continues, I will be very worried about the condition of certain countries whose economies are so weak that it will cause prolonged famine. I hope the world economic situation recovers soon.

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......Maybe the current inflation is not over yet. And maybe a recession is currently underway. I hope there will also be an increase in salaries to adjust to the prices of necessities which are also increasing rapidly.

There is always the opportunity for speculans to increase the price of basic commodities, especially rice, I think the government should read this too. Don't just make laws that benefit parties when the object being carried is always the community, especially in this case farmers. I'm the lightest one of the rice producers and is known for the title of rice barn and at the end of the story they have to import rice from other countries, it's sad to see.

Which really affecting the lifecycle of those people who are the main source of income is farming it, seeing the point that you are bringing is a good factor for the government to look for them in the long-run.

Not just to help the majority, but also consider the people behind and help them to continue being
aided by the government funding, which will allow them to live and continue the cycle of farming and
not to think of selling their farms and try to find the alternative to survive.

If there would be some off balance in between farmers and the expenses that they do have on farming then it would really be sure resulting into disaster when everyone tends to shift because we would really be ending up
on importing instead on supplying our own because of that unjustified prices and cheap buying of their products which it would really be ending up on stopping which it would really be greatly affecting the supply
and when shortages comes after then it would really be a problem which it could really be felt and this is due to some reasons and government should really be needing to address this kind of possible problem
if ever farming needs becomes that expensive on which they cant really be already to sustain.Food prices and even on other needs and supplied becomes really expensive as years passing by
and this is why if you do have that kind of worries then it would really be just that right that you should really be that finding for other source of income so that you could really be able to make yourself
sustain and survive on whatever things that do happen.

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From the bad: Imported products, of course, have gone up in price, in proportion to inflation.
On the good side: seasonal fruits and vegetables are cheaper on the market this year than last year.
Despite the war and Russia's temporary occupation of part of Ukrainian territory, namely the eastern and southern regions, where much of the fruits and vegetables were grown. After 2022, the beginning of a new phase of terrorist attack on Ukraine by Russia, agribusiness was able to adapt, and a significant part of agriculture "migrated" to the western regions of Ukraine, where they began to grow vegetables, fruits and berries. For example, berries in Ukraine were unexpectedly cheap this year, compared to previous years!

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Quote from: Uruhara on September 19, 2023, 08:13:44 AM

Normally, September should have entered the rainy season. And usually the rainy season starts at the beginning of the month. But currently, in September, there are only signs of the arrival of the rainy season. Because even though a few days ago there was rain coming to my area. But there are no signs of rain again. Maybe this year's rainy season will start in October. And farmers have been waiting for this.

But now there are things to worry about that will impact price changes on a global scale. Namely, there is news that the price of oil and gas has increased again. But fortunately the increase is not that high. So the impact is not yet felt.

The news of an increase in fuel prices is not just a rumor but has actually been implemented now. And actually the increase has occurred since September 1. I don't know about your area, but in my area the increase has occurred since September 1st. Where the fuel increase actually only applies to non-subsidized fuel. And the increase that occurred was actually quite high, namely around 10 percent for each type of fuel oil.

And clearly this increase has caused transportation costs to increase. Not only that, you have to check the prices of snacks in traditional markets. You will be surprised at the increase that occurs. But there are some products that choose not to increase prices. But they reduced the contents of their products. So it's the same.

Sourch: rejabar.republika.co.id

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Quote from: Uruhara on September 20, 2023, 06:30:45 PM

......Maybe the current inflation is not over yet. And maybe a recession is currently underway. I hope there will also be an increase in salaries to adjust to the prices of necessities which are also increasing rapidly.

There is always the opportunity for speculans to increase the price of basic commodities, especially rice, I think the government should read this too. Don't just make laws that benefit parties when the object being carried is always the community, especially in this case farmers. I'm the lightest one of the rice producers and is known for the title of rice barn and at the end of the story they have to import rice from other countries, it's sad to see.

Which really affecting the lifecycle of those people who are the main source of income is farming it, seeing the point that you are bringing is a good factor for the government to look for them in the long-run.

Not just to help the majority, but also consider the people behind and help them to continue being
aided by the government funding, which will allow them to live and continue the cycle of farming and
not to think of selling their farms and try to find the alternative to survive.

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