ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 13.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 15, 2023, 05:41:43 AM

200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

The way India's batsmen are batting now, I won't be surprised at all if they score 400 runs. At the end of 30 overs, India collected 214 runs. Although Virat Kohli was batting slowly in the beginning, now he is batting aggressively. Kohli scored 65 runs off 71 balls and Iyer collected 19 runs off 15 balls. As every batsman in the Indian squad is in very good form, no batsman is under any pressure to bat now. The team has lost just one wicket and I will say India will win today's match for sure and they will win by at least 100 runs. If the target was less than 300, the match would have been competitive. But I don't see any possibility of this match being competitive now. The match is completely under India's control now.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 15, 2023, 05:41:43 AM

200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

400 looked possible around 10 overs ago, but now it is going to be somewhere around 350-400. The New Zealand spinners have done a decent job in bringing down the run-rate, but in order to win the match they need to take wickets urgently. If Shreyas Iyer remains there, then it is going to be a huge threat for the Kiwis. We have seen during the previous matches how destructive he can be during the end overs. And India has plenty of batting to come down the order, including KL Rahul, Suryakumar Yadav and Ravindra Jadeja.

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200 comes up for India in the 29th over, 72nd half century done for Kohli. 21 more overs left to bat, can India get to 400 runs? Possible if they start scoring at a run rate of 10 runs per over.

Bad news Shubhman Gill who was playing so good retired hurt. For now there isn't any update about his injury. He was batting very well and had scored 75 runs. He needed 25 more runs to get to his first World Cup century. It would great if he comes back and bat again.

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Are we going to see another four hundred runs innings? It does seems like that for now. 197 runs from 28 overs by losing only one wicket is just superb innings from team India. I am expecting 400 runs from them in this innings. They might end up scoring more than that. It won't be easy for New Zealand bowlers to restrict India below 400 if they cannot create any pressure!

I do not see any pressure from New Zealand bowlers as it seems like an ordinary wicket for batters. It's amazing how Indian batters face world-class bowling line up. Let's see where they end today.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2023, 05:16:36 AM

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Yeah, one could argue that he could have played against the Dutch but again there is a counterargument, why do you want to change the winning combination in the first place?

Well... it is not about changing the winning combination. I would have expected the Indians to rest some of their bowlers. What about resting two of the bowlers and including Ravichandran Ashwin and Prasidh Krishna instead? If you check Australia's last match, they did the same. For their last group stage match (against Bangladesh), they included Sean Abbott instead of Mitchell Starc. I would say that this would have been helpful, given the fact that some of the Indian bowlers have suffered from injury issues recently (such as Jasprit Bumrah).

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Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.

Everyone expected Rohit to play slowly and sensibly today but he did the opposite as he has been throughout the World Cup. Another explosive inning by the captain of the Indian team felt sorry that he missed out on his half-century just by three runs. Gill and Kohli have to maintain the momentum that they got because of Rohit. A good start by the Indian team they need to have 300 runs or more to win today. Plenty of overs are left and India already nearing 100 runs in the 12th over with a run rate that is above 7.

Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).

Shubman Gill retred hurt out ...
All in all India is performing very well especially on this pitch winning the toss and deciding to bat first is very good. However, if the fog falls in the second innings, it will become very easy to bat and it will become challenging for the Indian bowlers. So, India should perform well in the first innings and lead by runs. Virat Kohli and Shryas Iyer are batting with that in mind.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2023, 04:55:06 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2023, 04:39:35 AM

Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

Ravichandran Ashwin have been warming the bench ever since the tournament started. IMO, he could have been included in the playing XI at least for the match against Netherlands, but the selectors decided against it. Apparently Kohli & Co. are biased against Ashwin and irrespective of whether there is any truth in these allegations or not, I don't think that he's being treated fairly. BTW, looking at the bowling from Rachin Ravindra and Mitchell Santner so far, I don't think that the pitch is offering any undue advantage for the spinners.

Ravichandran Ashwin might have been given a chance. He is a very experienced player. But the Indian squad has been consistently performing well. So there was no need for them to bring changes in the squad. If Ravichandran Ashwin did not perform well after making changes in the squad, the Indian board would have faced criticism.

Like in previous matches, India's top order played very well today. Rohit Sharma got off to a devastating start. And now the Kohli-Gill duo is batting very carefully. The way things are going in India they will be able to collect more than 350 very easily.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 15, 2023, 04:55:06 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2023, 04:39:35 AM

Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

Ravichandran Ashwin have been warming the bench ever since the tournament started. IMO, he could have been included in the playing XI at least for the match against Netherlands, but the selectors decided against it. Apparently Kohli & Co. are biased against Ashwin and irrespective of whether there is any truth in these allegations or not, I don't think that he's being treated fairly. BTW, looking at the bowling from Rachin Ravindra and Mitchell Santner so far, I don't think that the pitch is offering any undue advantage for the spinners.

I don't believe there is a conspiracy against Ashwin in this setup. Team is playing as a unit and the dressing room environment looks chill because no one seems to be unsecured and they are enjoying each other success. Having said that if the format was Test then there might be some truth to it but again in white ball cricket i don't see any discrimination against him and i am Ashwin's fan.

Yeah, one could argue that he could have played against the Dutch but again there is a counterargument, why do you want to change the winning combination in the first place?

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 15, 2023, 04:39:35 AM

Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

Ravichandran Ashwin have been warming the bench ever since the tournament started. IMO, he could have been included in the playing XI at least for the match against Netherlands, but the selectors decided against it. Apparently Kohli & Co. are biased against Ashwin and irrespective of whether there is any truth in these allegations or not, I don't think that he's being treated fairly. BTW, looking at the bowling from Rachin Ravindra and Mitchell Santner so far, I don't think that the pitch is offering any undue advantage for the spinners.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 15, 2023, 04:31:15 AM

India off to a flying start and if they score anything below 350 then it is a disappointment with the kind of start they got from Rohit Sharma.

Despite losing the wicket of Rohit Sharma very quickly, the Indian team is now in a very good position. Rohit Sharma got off to a great start. He scored 47 runs off just 29 balls. Gill and Kohli have been consistent. India collected 132 runs in 17 overs. Shubman Gill scored 63 runs off 49 balls and Virat Kohli remained unbeaten on 19 runs off 24 balls. India's average collection is 7.76 per over. They are playing well. And if it continues like this it will give more than 350 targets very easily. Batting more than 300 targets on this pitch is very difficult to win. If New Zealand want to win today, they will have to score a record number of runs in the second innings on this Wankhede pitch.

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Quote from: libert19 on November 15, 2023, 04:34:41 AM

Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).

He got his 50 and he will today get his first century in the World Cup. Both Kohli and Gill are playing well and they should the pitch look good for batting. They were saying that is friendly for spinners but I have not seen any turns for both Santner and Rachin. Both Indian batters till now are playing comfortably against the Kiwi spin attack. They both need to be on the pitch till India reaches 200 runs and then they should start taking risks. Till the spin attacks continuos they should try and rotate the strike and get the odd boundaries.

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There are reports out regarding the home team meddling with the pitches that are to be used in this match to be in their favor. They have new pitches available in this ground and yet they are using an used pitch that conducted two matches earlier in the league, both the times, the team batting first won by huge margin and India choose to bat in that same pitch, so not expecting any surprises.

It is not a huge surprise that the home team can chip in about the kind of pitch they wanted in the match, ICC will overlook on these selection process to make sure that the pitch is good enough for the match and there is no stipulation as per the rule book that a new pitch should be used for the semifinal or finals Wink

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India off to a flying start and if they score anything below 350 then it is a disappointment with the kind of start they got from Rohit Sharma.

Not meddling with the pitch but they opted for a used pitch that was prepared for SA vs ENG. In the 2023 T-20 WC too (Aus), The organizers also used old pitches so you're correct, it's quite normal and there is no such thing as fresh pitches for the knockouts. One can go with a used or completely fresh pitch.

Folks are saying that it's a spin pitch but if the deck was rank turner then India would have gone with the 3 spinner and last i checked Ashwin is warming the bench.

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Another good knock from Brohit and he's only looking out for the Team's interest but I would not mind if he goes carefully with his business, especially after such a start and maybe try to stay on the crease for at least 20 overs.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on November 15, 2023, 03:54:31 AM

Ohh my goodness, what's an amazing start!!!

If the Indian opening pair continues to bat like this, they will make 400 runs today. Indian batsman Rohit Sharma started today with his target of qualifying for the final. Maybe Rohit Sharma's dream is going to come true and there is a possibility of making it to the final.

India's openers Rohit Sharma and Shubman Gill had a strong early start. The way Rohit Sharma started the game looked like he was playing at T20 level. I'd say Rohit Sharma's bad luck for only 3 runs he didn't get a half century. Now Virat Kohli will try to build on the partnership of Shubman Gill to increase their team's score. Virat Kohli shubman Gill India's selectable batsman. If they can play a bit carefully both will score centuries. India's current score is 106 runs for 1 wicket in 13 overs. If Virat Kohli and Shubman Gill can form a big partnership then it seems that India's team score will be 400 runs.

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Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.

Everyone expected Rohit to play slowly and sensibly today but he did the opposite as he has been throughout the World Cup. Another explosive inning by the captain of the Indian team felt sorry that he missed out on his half-century just by three runs. Gill and Kohli have to maintain the momentum that they got because of Rohit. A good start by the Indian team they need to have 300 runs or more to win today. Plenty of overs are left and India already nearing 100 runs in the 12th over with a run rate that is above 7.

Since Rohit is gone, Gill is playing aggressive than before, I think it's good team strategy to keep momentum going without giving pressure to the new batter (that is if my assumption is correct).

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 15, 2023, 03:26:40 AM

There are reports out regarding the home team meddling with the pitches that are to be used in this match to be in their favor. They have new pitches available in this ground and yet they are using an used pitch that conducted two matches earlier in the league, both the times, the team batting first won by huge margin and India choose to bat in that same pitch, so not expecting any surprises.

It is not a huge surprise that the home team can chip in about the kind of pitch they wanted in the match, ICC will overlook on these selection process to make sure that the pitch is good enough for the match and there is no stipulation as per the rule book that a new pitch should be used for the semifinal or finals Wink

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India off to a flying start and if they score anything below 350 then it is a disappointment with the kind of start they got from Rohit Sharma.

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Quote from: libert19 on November 15, 2023, 04:17:41 AM

Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.

Everyone expected Rohit to play slowly and sensibly today but he did the opposite as he has been throughout the World Cup. Another explosive inning by the captain of the Indian team felt sorry that he missed out on his half-century just by three runs. Gill and Kohli have to maintain the momentum that they got because of Rohit. A good start by the Indian team they need to have 300 runs or more to win today. Plenty of overs are left and India already nearing 100 runs in the 12th over with a run rate that is above 7.

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Rohit Sharma just gone after giving good start to Indian team, great catch from Williamson. Until he caught it actually, I thought he was gonna drop it.

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Quote from: jasonjm on November 15, 2023, 03:20:51 AM

The first semi-final of the ICC World Cup 2023 is about to start. India is the favourite to win the match. All of their departments are performing exceptionally well. On the other hand, New Zealand had a very good start to the World Cup. They lost momentum in the middle. It will not be a high-scoring game as some are predicting because this is a pressure game, and the team who wins the toss should bat first because batting second on this pitch is tricky and difficult.
Can New Zealand repeat the 2019 match or will India come out victorious; it is about to be decided in a few hours.

In this match of the first semi-final, India won the toss and went into bat. Today, India won the toss and decided to bat against New Zealand before they decided to bat. India scored 47 runs in 5 overs after batting. India's current run rate so far stands at 9.4. If India continues to bat like this, India's total today will be 400+ runs. India are looking very strong at their home ground. Meanwhile, if New Zealand can put India in a tough spot, their run-rate might come down a lot. If they can stop India within 300 runs then maybe some victory can be expected for New Zealand. But in this high voltage match, both the teams will do very well, let's see who can perform well today and secure the semi-final and pass to the final.

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Ohh my goodness, what's an amazing start!!!

If the Indian opening pair continues to bat like this, they will make 400 runs today. Indian batsman Rohit Sharma started today with his target of qualifying for the final. Maybe Rohit Sharma's dream is going to come true and there is a possibility of making it to the final.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 14, 2023, 09:53:46 PM

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India will be the overwhelming favorites for today's match and New Zealand can hope for a miracle only if they win the toss and everything else goes in their favor.

There are reports out regarding the home team meddling with the pitches that are to be used in this match to be in their favor. They have new pitches available in this ground and yet they are using an used pitch that conducted two matches earlier in the league, both the times, the team batting first won by huge margin and India choose to bat in that same pitch, so not expecting any surprises.

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