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November 13, 2023, 05:22:17 AM
I am Ashwin's fan and at times biased in favor of him but the World Cup is not about individuals, it's about the team and winning combination.

To start with he wasn't the first choice spinner for the team despite being good cricketer because India has a fair amount of spin all rounder. He only got an opportunity because Axar got injured. Also, Ash did play the match against Australia and did a good job but we have to understand team combination is also necessary.
Yes bro Ravichandran Ashwin is a great spin bowler and sometimes he can bat well that I have seen in different games.
I think India has done the right thing if they have given Ravichandar Ashwin a chance in the XI because he is very experienced.In the World Cup, experience is evaluated as well as performance.
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November 13, 2023, 05:05:55 AM
. I am disappointed with the fact that India didn't gave any chances to the bench players. It will be a big insult for Ravichandran Ashwin, to not to play a single match in this world cup.
I am Ashwin's fan and at times biased in favor of him but the World Cup is not about individuals, it's about the team and winning combination.

To start with he wasn't the first choice spinner for the team despite being good cricketer because India has a fair amount of spin all rounder. He only got an opportunity because Axar got injured. Also, Ash did play the match against Australia and did a good job but we have to understand team combination is also necessary.
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November 13, 2023, 12:40:31 AM
I just hope that the Indian batsmen will perform similarly while facing New Zealand bowlers during the semi-final and also during the final match when they face Australian/South African bowlers (in case they win the semis). Scoring 400+ against Netherlands doesn't matter, since India is playing at home and also due to the fact that the Dutch bowlers have been horribly out of form during the last few weeks.
Ordinary bowling from the Dutch bowlers. They were all over the pitch and hadn't executed their plan well. The first semi-final between India and New Zealand will be a thriller; if India gets the wickets of Ravindra and Williamson in the first powerplay, things will get difficult for New Zealand. On the other hand, if India loses Sharma and Kohli early in the innings, they might get into trouble as well. Both teams are in great touch and well-balanced. Fingers crossed for a thriller.

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I am disappointed with the fact that India didn't gave any chances to the bench players. It will be a big insult for Ravichandran Ashwin, to not to play a single match in this world cup.
I think the team management did not want to disturb the team combination and rhythm of the players right before the semi-final.
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November 13, 2023, 12:07:18 AM
Yesterday, Shami didnt get a single wicket, looking at Dutch side I was looking for another fiver, dutches played well tho specially in the start of their inning against pacers, then spinners came and ruined their fun.

I am disappointed with the fact that India didn't gave any chances to the bench players. It will be a big insult for Ravichandran Ashwin, to not to play a single match in this world cup.

May be not to lose their rhythm with current playing 11. Who would have been sat on bench for Ashwin to come in anyway?
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November 12, 2023, 11:58:44 PM

If we think a little with the performance of the Sri Lanka match that happened a few days ago, then we can easily understand that compared to that, Netherlands scored quite well. Scoring 250 against India is not an easy task. Especially for this season. If they collect 100 with the great bowlers India have, you'd think they're OK according to their position, but when they make 250, the team is certainly not bad. Congratulations to the Netherlands team in this tournament because despite being a weak team in cricket, they played a very professional game. I never thought that Netherlands would beat India. Because where the big and powerful teams are being defeated again and again, many people think that the main thing is not to win but to compete.

Many people think today game was the one side game,but the Netherland game was good today.Because the team England had scored just 129 runs against the team India,but the Netherland had made the 250 round against the team India.So the Netherlands game should be appreciated today,even though Netherlands out of the semi finals already made the good knock now and in the World Cup.Their old history in the World Cup was rewrite by the current Netherlands team,if they played the responsible before game may help the Netherland atleast 4 position to the semi finals.
The Indian batsmen displayed their prowess as Shubman Gill 51 and Rohit Sharma 61 for 54 provided a excellent start, setting the tone for a formidable total. Shreyas and Rahul then built a remarkable 208-run partnership, with contributions from Virat Kohli and others scored cross to 400. The Netherlands bowlers struggled to get wickets and put pressure on India, despite some resistance, they were left with a challenging target of 411. India is on top of point table with 18 points while Netherlands is on No 10th on points table with 4 points.
After defeating the Netherlands by a huge margin of 160 runs, India is at number one in the points table. Team India has won nine out of nine matches and topped the points table with eighteen points. From the Asia Cup to the World Cup, India has been in great form. 2023 World Cup The way the Indian team is performing, their final match is pretty much assured. It is not unusual for the Netherlands to score 410 runs with them being a weak team. As a weak side, Netherlands played fairly well against India as they tried to play 50 overs. The Netherlands will do better in the future.
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November 12, 2023, 11:52:24 PM
The Indian batsmen displayed their prowess as Shubman Gill 51 and Rohit Sharma 61 for 54 provided a excellent start, setting the tone for a formidable total. Shreyas and Rahul then built a remarkable 208-run partnership, with contributions from Virat Kohli and others scored cross to 400. The Netherlands bowlers struggled to get wickets and put pressure on India, despite some resistance, they were left with a challenging target of 411. India is on top of point table with 18 points while Netherlands is on No 10th on points table with 4 points.

I just hope that the Indian batsmen will perform similarly while facing New Zealand bowlers during the semi-final and also during the final match when they face Australian/South African bowlers (in case they win the semis). Scoring 400+ against Netherlands doesn't matter, since India is playing at home and also due to the fact that the Dutch bowlers have been horribly out of form during the last few weeks. I am disappointed with the fact that India didn't gave any chances to the bench players. It will be a big insult for Ravichandran Ashwin, to not to play a single match in this world cup.
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November 12, 2023, 11:13:28 PM

If we think a little with the performance of the Sri Lanka match that happened a few days ago, then we can easily understand that compared to that, Netherlands scored quite well. Scoring 250 against India is not an easy task. Especially for this season. If they collect 100 with the great bowlers India have, you'd think they're OK according to their position, but when they make 250, the team is certainly not bad. Congratulations to the Netherlands team in this tournament because despite being a weak team in cricket, they played a very professional game. I never thought that Netherlands would beat India. Because where the big and powerful teams are being defeated again and again, many people think that the main thing is not to win but to compete.

Many people think today game was the one side game,but the Netherland game was good today.Because the team England had scored just 129 runs against the team India,but the Netherland had made the 250 round against the team India.So the Netherlands game should be appreciated today,even though Netherlands out of the semi finals already made the good knock now and in the World Cup.Their old history in the World Cup was rewrite by the current Netherlands team,if they played the responsible before game may help the Netherland atleast 4 position to the semi finals.
The Indian batsmen displayed their prowess as Shubman Gill 51 and Rohit Sharma 61 for 54 provided a excellent start, setting the tone for a formidable total. Shreyas and Rahul then built a remarkable 208-run partnership, with contributions from Virat Kohli and others scored cross to 400. The Netherlands bowlers struggled to get wickets and put pressure on India, despite some resistance, they were left with a challenging target of 411. India is on top of point table with 18 points while Netherlands is on No 10th on points table with 4 points.
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November 12, 2023, 10:45:16 PM

If we think a little with the performance of the Sri Lanka match that happened a few days ago, then we can easily understand that compared to that, Netherlands scored quite well. Scoring 250 against India is not an easy task. Especially for this season. If they collect 100 with the great bowlers India have, you'd think they're OK according to their position, but when they make 250, the team is certainly not bad. Congratulations to the Netherlands team in this tournament because despite being a weak team in cricket, they played a very professional game. I never thought that Netherlands would beat India. Because where the big and powerful teams are being defeated again and again, many people think that the main thing is not to win but to compete.

Many people think today game was the one side game,but the Netherland game was good today.Because the team England had scored just 129 runs against the team India,but the Netherland had made the 250 round against the team India.So the Netherlands game should be appreciated today,even though Netherlands out of the semi finals already made the good knock now and in the World Cup.Their old history in the World Cup was rewrite by the current Netherlands team,if they played the responsible before game may help the Netherland atleast 4 position to the semi finals.

Don’t compare Netherlands with England dude. Pitch, Stadium and playing conditions also affect a lot in the game’s result. Yesterday the match was at Bengaluru, which is a batting pitch, hence it helped the batter to score the runs. But in case of England’s match, the pitch wasn’t so batting friendly. So it’s really a waste of time if we compare on the basis of runs scored.

We need to appreciate the Indian Top order, especially KL Rahul, for his quick 100, they did good while batting first, and many Indian fans were expecting for them to cross 400 runs. Now this form is required for the Semi Final against NZ. So let’s hope for the best.
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November 12, 2023, 09:41:48 PM
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Yes ,you are right . Netherland played excellent in this tournament and they gave tough time to big teams.
99.9% of people may have been India supporters yesterday but a scene after the end of the match caught everyone's attention. When the Dutch batsmen were all out, all the other Dutch players and coaching staff entered the field and at that time the Indian fans gave them a standing ovation to show their respect and love, which I personally liked a lot. The Netherlands did not lose anything in this World Cup tournament, but the Netherlands achieved the most in this World Cup tournament, that's why they had a great smile on their faces at the end of the match and they left this World Cup tournament happy. Let teams like Netherlands come to cricket and participate in big tournaments because when teams like Netherlands perform like this in big tournaments of world cricket, the beauty of cricket increases.
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November 12, 2023, 07:10:26 PM

If we think a little with the performance of the Sri Lanka match that happened a few days ago, then we can easily understand that compared to that, Netherlands scored quite well. Scoring 250 against India is not an easy task. Especially for this season. If they collect 100 with the great bowlers India have, you'd think they're OK according to their position, but when they make 250, the team is certainly not bad. Congratulations to the Netherlands team in this tournament because despite being a weak team in cricket, they played a very professional game. I never thought that Netherlands would beat India. Because where the big and powerful teams are being defeated again and again, many people think that the main thing is not to win but to compete.

Many people think today game was the one side game,but the Netherland game was good today.Because the team England had scored just 129 runs against the team India,but the Netherland had made the 250 round against the team India.So the Netherlands game should be appreciated today,even though Netherlands out of the semi finals already made the good knock now and in the World Cup.Their old history in the World Cup was rewrite by the current Netherlands team,if they played the responsible before game may help the Netherland atleast 4 position to the semi finals.
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November 12, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
After India scored 410 runs against Netherlands I naturally thought maybe India would bowl Netherlands out within 100 runs but Netherlands are a good team and they have proved that they can fight against any team before and also in the second innings against India. Netherlands managed to score 208 runs for 6 wickets after 42 overs. In this situation if Netherlands lose to India then I would like to salute Netherlands as they have performed well throughout the whole tournament of the World Cup. A team like Sri Lanka who were all out for 50 runs against India, a team in South Africa where they were all out before 90 runs, Netherlands scored 205 runs against India, what could be happier news for the Netherlands. It is my wish as a cricket lover that Netherlands should not lose from cricket and that Netherlands should do well in cricket.
Yes ,you are right . Netherland played excellent in this tournament and they gave tough time to big teams . Netherland  took win against South Africa . South Africa is top class team which  gave a target s of 400+ runs in this team . Netherland won the match against South Africa and that was an excellent victory. Netherland cricket is improving and coming to the front, Netherland team should work on their weaknesses .
 
I knew India will win this match but I did not expect this type of match ,they fought well till at the end .Indian team already qualified for Semi final and it will play against New Zealand that is best team that played last World Cup final against England but lose the World cup due to luck.New Zealand always reached in semi final or final . I want ,New Zealand should win this World Cup because India also  have won the World Cups . And Cup should be in different hands ,I know  New Zealand team is hard working and it can win this World Cup .
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November 12, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
After India scored 410 runs against Netherlands I naturally thought maybe India would bowl Netherlands out within 100 runs but Netherlands are a good team and they have proved that they can fight against any team before and also in the second innings against India. Netherlands managed to score 208 runs for 6 wickets after 42 overs. In this situation if Netherlands lose to India then I would like to salute Netherlands as they have performed well throughout the whole tournament of the World Cup.
If we think a little with the performance of the Sri Lanka match that happened a few days ago, then we can easily understand that compared to that, Netherlands scored quite well. Scoring 250 against India is not a easy task. Especially for this season. If they collect 100 with the great bowlers India have, you'd think they're OK according to their position, but when they make 250, the team is certainly not bad. Congratulations to the Netherlands team in this tournament because despite being a weak team in cricket, they played a very professional game. I never thought that Netherlands would beat India. Because where the big and powerful teams are being defeated again and again, many people think that the main thing is not to win but to compete.
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November 12, 2023, 11:50:47 AM
After India scored 410 runs against Netherlands I naturally thought maybe India would bowl Netherlands out within 100 runs but Netherlands are a good team and they have proved that they can fight against any team before and also in the second innings against India. Netherlands managed to score 208 runs for 6 wickets after 42 overs. In this situation if Netherlands lose to India then I would like to salute Netherlands as they have performed well throughout the whole tournament of the World Cup. A team like Sri Lanka who were all out for 50 runs against India, a team in South Africa where they were all out before 90 runs, Netherlands scored 205 runs against India, what could be happier news for the Netherlands. It is my wish as a cricket lover that Netherlands should not lose from cricket and that Netherlands should do well in cricket.

Netherlands played very well against India. Despite batting against such a big target, they are performing quite decently. However, the Netherlands had no chance of winning. Even then they managed to narrow the margin of defeat. Netherlands collected 227 runs in 45 overs losing 8 wickets. I would say it will be a big achievement for Netherlands if they don't lose all the wickets. They scored 227 runs against such a strong bowling line-up of India. I thought the team would lose all wickets before 150. Because we saw the Sri Lankan team batting against India with a target of 358 runs, Sri Lanka finished their innings for just 55 runs. Compared to Sri Lanka's performance, the Netherlands boys are playing brilliantly today.
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November 12, 2023, 11:39:44 AM
After India scored 410 runs against Netherlands I naturally thought maybe India would bowl Netherlands out within 100 runs but Netherlands are a good team and they have proved that they can fight against any team before and also in the second innings against India. Netherlands managed to score 208 runs for 6 wickets after 42 overs. In this situation if Netherlands lose to India then I would like to salute Netherlands as they have performed well throughout the whole tournament of the World Cup. A team like Sri Lanka who were all out for 50 runs against India, a team in South Africa where they were all out before 90 runs, Netherlands scored 205 runs against India, what could be happier news for the Netherlands. It is my wish as a cricket lover that Netherlands should not lose from cricket and that Netherlands should do well in cricket.
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November 12, 2023, 10:32:39 AM
India vs Netherlands
India put up a mountain of runs against the Netherlands today. In this World Cup, India scored 400 for the first time, again against Netherlands. All the Indian batsmen who batted today have scored a fifty and two batsmen have scored a century. From the start, India batted very aggressively against Netherlands today and their batting early on looked like they might collect a big one today. With the target that India has given Netherlands, I think Netherlands can lose by 300 runs against India today. 
Netherlands current scored is 115 runs in loss of 4 wickets in 25 overs. Engelbrecht is playing at 28 not out in 42 balls. India top class bowling performance Kuldeep Yadav pick 1 wickets by giving 16 runs in 6 overs and Virat kholi also pick 1 wickets by giving 8 runs in 2 overs. Muhammad Siraj also pick up 1 wickets by giving 24 runs in 4 overs. From Netherlands M. O'Dowd batting well scored 30 runs in 42 balls and C. Ackermann also scored well 35 runs in 32 balls  Netherlands needs 287 runs in 23 over to win this match which seems impossible beacuse they lost top 4 wickets.
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November 12, 2023, 10:22:43 AM
India has given Netherlands a target of 410 runs. I think Netherlands will lose today's match by a huge margin.  The 2023 World Cup India team is in great form. Both their batting and bowling are very strong and the way they are playing it looks like India will play the final. Netherlands' current score is 91 for 3 with 21 overs to play. Netherlands' current score looks like they might be able to top 200 runs. 2023 World Cup India is the only team to participate in 8 matches without losing a single match. 2023 World Cup India has been playing with power since the beginning. Team India will definitely do well in their end as well.
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November 12, 2023, 10:07:54 AM
It would have been better had qualifiers work like in IPL where top two teams are given another chance if first qualifier is lost. It would make top standings more meaningful.

Yes, I agree with this proposal and I think this structure should be followed in all ICC tournaments. Instead of the first team in the pool standing playing with the fourth team, better for the first and second teams to play with each other and be given another chance to qualify for the finals for the team that lost this initial match.

Here in this World Cup, the goal was only to reach the top 4 teams and another target was to make it up to 3rd position, so the team could avoid the 1st position team in the semi-finals. You may finish 2nd or 3rd, but there was no incentive to push hard to move to 2nd spot.

Had it been the qualifiers round, Both Australia and South Africa would be willing to end up 2nd, so that can get two chances in the playoffs. This would have added more competition and more trill in the tournament.
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November 12, 2023, 09:04:37 AM
Indian batters just destroyed the Dutch bowlers! Especially Logan van Beek was helpless against Indian batters. He conceded 107 runs in ten overs and it's 10.77 runs per over. A career eating performance. Paul van Meekeren is another one who had a similar experience against Indian batters. KL Rahul was destructive scoring 102 runs from 64 balls.

The Netherlands has this last chance to qualify for the champion's trophy, but it seems Bangladesh is going to qualify for the champion's trophy instead. The Netherlands have to improve their bowling.
Today match is the 45 match of ICC world cup. It is the between India and Netherlands.India won the toss and elected batting.India batsman makes 15 run in 2 over and Netherlands no any wicket against India.india batsman makes 37 run in 5 over.The Netherlands bowler out India first batsman in the fifth ball of the eleventh over.India batsman makes 100 run in 12 over and 1 outs. India batsman makes 178 run in 26 over and 2 outs.India batsman makes 410 run in 50 over. This is the target for Netherlands. This is very difficult target for Netherlands.India batsman played very well. The Netherlands can't even meet this target.
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November 12, 2023, 08:56:57 AM

The job is still not done so fingers crossed for the semis and need a few more innings. I hope Gill also chips in and tries his best to go big, he's equally dangerous or I dare to say more explosive in this current Indian batting lineup but only if he digs in for long because this kid can hit even good balls with ease.

If India is able to defeat the New Zealand team in the semifinals then the team they meet in the finals will get defeated too. I have fear of uncertainty in my minds as India always fails to deliver in ICC trophy.

Today the top 3 played what they have been doing. Even Kohli was very agressive when he came to bat today. All three got their half century. Sheyas was at his best and KL did what was expected from him. The team is looking good till now fingers crossed they play in the same manner on 15th.
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November 12, 2023, 08:51:35 AM
The strategy by the Indian opening pair throughout the World Cup has been very different. Especially by Rohit Sharma, he comes out starts hitting the main bowlers of the opposition and doesn't allow them to come back. It makes the bowler confused and they start bowling badly. This allows India to get the desired number of runs in the first 10 overs. Later on Kohli comes and does what he is known for in 50 over format.

They are doing the same thing today. In the knockout match, I hope the openers are able to repeat the same strategy. The match would be played in Wankhede stadium which again gives them a lot of benefits as most players in the playing 11 are from MI team in the IPL.
True, He could have added a couple of extra tons under his belt but he decided not to go for personal glory and focused only on attacking cricket, which is helping other batters.

The job is still not done so fingers crossed for the semis and need a few more innings. I hope Gill also chips in and tries his best to go big, he's equally dangerous or I dare to say more explosive in this current Indian batting lineup but only if he digs in for long because this kid can hit even good balls with ease.
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