Topic: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 57. (Read 12281 times)
The match with Pakistan vs South Africa I will put South Africa ahead in today's match because they are doing great batting and bowling. If South Africa win the toss and decide to bat first, if they can give Pakistan a target of 300 runs then it will be very difficult for Pakistan to win this match. If we look at the point table, we will see that South Africa is at number 2 and Pakistan is at number 5. If Pakistan wins today's match, it will take another step towards the semi-finals. Pakistan's bad loss to Afghanistan may take time to forget. Their bowling was very poor against Afghanistan so if they can bowl and bat well in today's match then maybe Pakistan can turn the match around against South Africa. Now it remains to be seen how well they turn themselves around in the South Africa match after Pakistan lost badly against Afghanistan
South Africa takes on Pakistan today again at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium. The team that will win the toss would choose to bowl first. Considering the match that was played against Srilanka and England yesterday. Pakistan has to win today if the want to continue in the World Cup. South Africa won't be interested in losing today as they want to become top two favourite team to qualify for the semifinals.
Betting Odds
South Africa - 1.56
Pakistan - 2.496
Do you guys think Pakistan can win today?
It would be a good comeback if Pakistani team could defeat the South African team. The only way they can do it is by playing exceptionally well today. South Africa has batters that are easily scoring centuries. If Pakistan bowlers can attack those batters and get their wickets then they have a chance. The game will be again played in the same stadium where Srilanka posted their big win. If they can then why not the Pakistani team. Toss would again play an important role today.
If Pakistan can field well today, they can win the match 
On a note, we might see Mohammad Wasim Jr. playing today as Hasan Ali won't be playing due to fever.
On a note, we might see Mohammad Wasim Jr. playing today as Hasan Ali won't be playing due to fever.
Pakistan has minimal chance of a win against South Africa. Apart from that surprise loss to the Netherlands, South Africa has been in terrific form. And Pakistani bowlers are leaking runs whenever they play against quality opposition. Naseem Shah's absence is being felt, while Shaheen Shah Afridi, Haris Rauf and Hasan Ali are not in great form. Their spinners have also failed to make breakthroughs. But the problem here is that this is a must win match for Pakistan. If they lose, then they can't qualify for the semi-final stage.
Another crucial match today, between South Africa and Pakistan. If South Africa can win this one, then they are almost through to the semi-finals. On the other hand, for Pakistan this is more like a do or die battle. South Africa are at the moment second placed in the points table (they have a better net run rate when compared to New Zealand) and their NRR is even better than the first placed India. And momentum is not with Pakistan. They have lost their last three matches by heavy margins (against India, Australia and Afghanistan). On the other hand, South Africa has won their last two.
Pakistan will have to win today's match at any cost if they want to qualify for the semi-finals. There is no alternative. If they do not win this match, the team cannot be among the top four of the table. Pakistan's main weakness in this World Cup is their bowling line-up. Pakistan bowlers performance is very poor and they do not have any experienced spin bowlers in their squad. Apart from Afridi, the performance of other bowlers in the squad is also not good. On the other hand, the opponent South African batsmen are in very good form. In every match we are seeing great batting from the South African batsmen. If the Pakistani bowlers do not perform well in today's match, they have no chance of winning. And if South Africa bat first then atleast they will give 350+ target.
Another crucial match today, between South Africa and Pakistan. If South Africa can win this one, then they are almost through to the semi-finals. On the other hand, for Pakistan this is more like a do or die battle. South Africa are at the moment second placed in the points table (they have a better net run rate when compared to New Zealand) and their NRR is even better than the first placed India. And momentum is not with Pakistan. They have lost their last three matches by heavy margins (against India, Australia and Afghanistan). On the other hand, South Africa has won their last two.
If Pakistan can field well today, they can win the match
On a note, we might see Mohammad Wasim Jr. playing today as Hasan Ali won't be playing due to fever.
Another crucial match today, between South Africa and Pakistan. If South Africa can win this one, then they are almost through to the semi-finals. On the other hand, for Pakistan this is more like a do or die battle. South Africa are at the moment second placed in the points table (they have a better net run rate when compared to New Zealand) and their NRR is even better than the first placed India. And momentum is not with Pakistan. They have lost their last three matches by heavy margins (against India, Australia and Afghanistan). On the other hand, South Africa has won their last two.
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PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
Even if they win their next match (vs Afghanistan) and Australia lose theirs (vs New Zealand), Australia may remain at the top. At this point, Australia has a NRR of +1.142 (received a considerable boost after their massive win against Netherlands). On the other hand, Sri Lanka is having a NRR of -0.205 (this is after their big win against England today). I am not saying that it is impossible for Sri Lanka to overtake Australia, but that is going to take some more time.
Such a really bad performance of England team in both batting side And bowling side. In today match, England won toss and firstly they want to give target to Sri Lanka team. Mostly batsman players of England dismissed below ten runs and some of remaining batsman dismissed below 15 runs. Only B.Stokes scored 43 runs from 73 balls and he hitted six 4s. Overall they gave 156 target to Sri Lanka in 33.2 overs and after this entire team dismissed. They disappointed their cricket fans and we all know that how much their team is strong and popular team in cricket. After losing this match, now they shift from 7 to 9 position in stats.
It’s not look like the game of the defending champion of 2019,England game was not to the expected level now.All the team easy defeating of the team England,So it mean the team was totally week now.The experienced players in the England team should take responsibility in the game.So he can handle the balance game in the World Cup.Because 156 runs in the World Cup can be scored by the Kenya in the World Cup.I had huge respect in England team,I had very depressed by seeing today match of England.Last time Champion was at the bottom of the table was not accepted one.Even Australia was struggle at the begging,But they recover by the team effort,England should learn from the Australia team game.
England will be lower than Bangladesh if they lose today's match. How can a favorite team come into the World Cup and perform so badly?
Finally England got all out for 156 runs total.
Sri Lanka will target Iran and not lose many wickets to win. If Sri Lanka win today's match they will move to 5th position in the points table.
Finally England got all out for 156 runs total.
Sri Lanka will target Iran and not lose many wickets to win. If Sri Lanka win today's match they will move to 5th position in the points table.
There are two possibilities for England's poor performance. The first is that their batters are out of form and the second is over-hyped as the best team to play white ball cricket. Other than that I do not think anything can prove such a poor performance by England. At the moment Srilankan's batting is not looking good they lost their first wicket within the power play. Although the target is so small that if they play slowly they would still win if they are not bothered about the net run rate. I am sure the Srilankan batter would have a tough time while batting on a pitch that tends to get slower as the game progresses.
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PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
Even if they win their next match (vs Afghanistan) and Australia lose theirs (vs New Zealand), Australia may remain at the top. At this point, Australia has a NRR of +1.142 (received a considerable boost after their massive win against Netherlands). On the other hand, Sri Lanka is having a NRR of -0.205 (this is after their big win against England today). I am not saying that it is impossible for Sri Lanka to overtake Australia, but that is going to take some more time. And that alone may not give them a ticket to the semi-finals. PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
India is having full chance with South Africa going to stay at the second spot but if they lost any match then surely It's going to hurt them with New Zealand performance is also going to give them good boost for the third or fourth spot and Australia as coming back this is surely impressive, so now things are not easy for another team to jump into top four.
Most of the time odds are trap by bookies for the punters I never consider them for any team's performance Sri Lanka were performing much better than England with their bowling and batting both were on good form,
The same goes for India (BIG-3), even if they are fielding their second string team.
Really surprising and disappointing performance by england,
They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
Most of the time odds are trap by bookies for the punters I never consider them for any team's performance Sri Lanka were performing much better than England with their bowling and batting both were on good form, but England were having not good things from the start of this event which hurt them badly and now at the end they are out of the event after playing just five games and having just one win against Bangladesh and second could be against the Netherlands, but I have doubt in this case as well.They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
Few are arguing about their injured players, but I am not going to accept this statement as well because they are still going with their 90s policy which never give them any success in this format they need to work on improvement from the grass-root if they want better results otherwise they could be face backlash like this in future as well.
Really surprising and disappointing performance by england,
They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
Dreaming of a 156-run win on a batting-friendly wicket like the one being played on is nothing more than wishful thinking. England has only followed the rules. It was only when they were bowled out for 156 that they were sure that they could not win the match. How many more changes will England do well? As a big team I don't dream of England making it to the next round. By losing this match I think England's World Cup tournament is over. Against Sri Lanka where they were bowled out for just 156 runs, they might have a terrible performance against the rest of the teams. At least I will not bet on England in this World Cup tournament. I lost money every time I bet on England. They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
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PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
Even if they win their next match (vs Afghanistan) and Australia lose theirs (vs New Zealand), Australia may remain at the top. At this point, Australia has a NRR of +1.142 (received a considerable boost after their massive win against Netherlands). On the other hand, Sri Lanka is having a NRR of -0.205 (this is after their big win against England today). I am not saying that it is impossible for Sri Lanka to overtake Australia, but that is going to take some more time. And that alone may not give them a ticket to the semi-finals.
What a win!
Sri Lanka won by 8 wickets. Points table could have been even better if they hadn't lost to Pakistan. Yet Sri Lanka has a better chance of staying in the competition for the semifinals.
Sri Lanka played exceptionally well against the defending champions, England. This loss is England's fourth in this tournament, which places them in 9th position.
England is now out of the World Cup. Quite a surprise!!!!
Sri Lanka won by 8 wickets. Points table could have been even better if they hadn't lost to Pakistan. Yet Sri Lanka has a better chance of staying in the competition for the semifinals.
Sri Lanka played exceptionally well against the defending champions, England. This loss is England's fourth in this tournament, which places them in 9th position.
England is now out of the World Cup. Quite a surprise!!!!
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Even before today's match started, it was pretty clear that the side that lost would be out of contention for the semi-finals. And now it is clear that England is going to lose and they don't have any chance of qualifying for the semifinals. Bangladesh and Netherlands are already out of the semi-final stage and England becomes the third team to achieve that honor.
Sri Lanka will get a huge boost on the run rate front on the ICC World Cup point table, in case they can within 25-30 overs to spare the net run rate would should up. But, that won't be enough for them, to overtake Australia in the points table.
PS: Srilanka won today and as of now they are ranking fifth on the point table. Another big win and they might replace Australia on the point table.
Really surprising and disappointing performance by england,
They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
This game is so weird as in England batters got destroyed on a spin track, which means the England batters were not prepared. England skipped or was not available to test their batters on the pitch like the one they were playing today. Ultimately it is now evident that these guys were so much overconfident that they lost today against a weak team. I personally do not consider Srilanka a big team that can sneak into the semifinals. Another example is how much the English team thought of themselves as the best team to play a white ball game. They forgot that this tournament is not a 20-over cricket but a 50 overs cricket.
Really surprising and disappointing performance by england,
They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
They were less then 1.3 odds pre match and managed to score only 156 runs
Sri lanka were never in danger,except the first 6 overs maybe when it was 45-0.. Insane to think england lost TEN wickets and scored only 111 runs.. wow
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It's time for the England to book their tickets and starts to make the necessary actions to their team and its really pathetic situation for the defending champions.
It's time for the England to book their tickets and starts to make the necessary actions to their team and its really pathetic situation for the defending champions.
Even before today's match, it was pretty sure that the side that lose will be out of contention for the semi-final stage. And now it is clear that England is going to lose and they don't have any chance of qualifying for the SF stage. Bangladesh and Netherlands are already out of the semi-final stage and England becomes the third team to achieve that honor. Sri Lanka will get a huge boost to the run rate, in case they can win with 25-30 overs to spare. But that won't be enough for them, to overtake Australia in the points table.
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