ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 58.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 26, 2023, 07:28:34 AM

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Initially, interest will drop. It's still happening but if you want to spread the game then it's the only way. Qualifiers are a joke because it's based on ranking. Associate teams need to play against big teams but a regular bilateral tour is tough due to schedule so why not give them a chance to participate in WC? At least allow a minimum of 4-6 team associate teams, even if you are going with the same qualifier rule.

As I said the less interest from the viewers force the entity to keep system like this. I do want to see the growth of many countries in the cricket while imagine India is one of the country cricket is the considered to be a festival even there we can see no support for neutral teams like what we witness in Eng vs NZ opening match the stadium looks completely empty.

It's time for the England to book their tickets and starts to make the necessary actions to their team and its really pathetic situation for the defending champions.

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It would look bad and at times a waste of resources but in the long run it's good for the overall health of cricket and arguably the only way.

No one will be interested if we had such kind of tournament, that is why the qualifiers are in place and only certain number of teams are selected to play at the big arena. If associate nations wants to be there then they have to make a statement that they can be a capable team by qualifying to this stage.

I feel AFG will be the next big team in cricket based on their performances in very short period of time and also they got good set of batting and bowling talents at young age group so in the next 4 years they will be sure enough for big competitions.

If no one will be interested then everyone should stop dreaming about 16-18-24 team WC.

Initially, interest will drop. It's still happening but if you want to spread the game then it's the only way. Qualifiers are a joke because it's based on ranking. Associate teams need to play against big teams but a regular bilateral tour is tough due to schedule so why not give them a chance to participate in WC? At least allow a minimum of 4-6 team associate teams, even if you are going with the same qualifier rule.

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Quote from: jasonjm on October 26, 2023, 04:48:10 AM

England is 77/4, and they are in all sorts of trouble. So far so good from the Sri Lankan bowling lineup. They are bowling at tight length after the early onslaught by Malan and Bairstow. England batters looked under pressure. Luckily for Sri Lanka, Bairstow got out after a massive first-ball chance. Bairstow's trouble with the bat continued in this World Cup. Sri Lanka, at the moment, is in complete control, and Stokes looks frustrated by the length bowling. England needs to build a partnership here and should slowly increase their run rate till 35 overs.

England have registered their lowest score 156 against Sri Lanka in world cup history. Defending champions England display sudden downfall as they were all out for just 156 runs in 34th Over It's up to Sri Lanka to gain an impressive net run rate now move from 8th position to 5th Postion if they chase down this low target in 25 Overs. Big wicket for Sri Lanka of Ben Stokes out for 43(73) and England are deep trouble with 137/8. Sri Lankan bowlers delivered an excellent performance with the ball Lahiru kumara took three wickets 3/35, Angelo Mathews took two wickets 2/14 and Kasan Rajitha also took 2 wickets 2/36 and outplay England in Bengaluru

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Quote from: HelliumZ on October 26, 2023, 06:25:34 AM

England will be lower than Bangladesh if they lose today's match. How can a favorite team come into the World Cup and perform so badly?
Finally England got all out for 156 runs total.
Sri Lanka will target Iran and not lose many wickets to win. If Sri Lanka win today's match they will move to 5th position in the points table.

There are two possibilities for England's poor performance. The first is that their batters are out of form and the second is over-hyped as the best team to play white ball cricket. Other than that I do not think anything can prove such a poor performance by England. At the moment Srilankan's batting is not looking good they lost their first wicket within the power play. Although the target is so small that if they play slowly they would still win if they are not bothered about the net run rate. I am sure the Srilankan batter would have a tough time while batting on a pitch that tends to get slower as the game progresses.

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Quote from: libert19 on October 26, 2023, 06:16:53 AM

Ben Stokes just gone, and with that goes all hopes of making decent score for the England. You can understand team batter's poor performance when chasing high scores but here they are batting first yet such fail show.

Quote from: HelliumZ on October 26, 2023, 06:05:26 AM

Except for Ben Stokes, the rest of the players do not think that England is playing when they see their run figures. Today England's game is worse than Netherlands and Bangladesh.

Openers did okaish imo.

By the time I was done writing this comment, 9th wicket also gone.

With this match Sri Lanka also making comeback to the tournament, other being Aussies. They will try to put the end to their inning faster to get some extra NRR.

England will be lower than Bangladesh if they lose today's match. How can a favorite team come into the World Cup and perform so badly?
Finally England got all out for 156 runs total.
Sri Lanka will target Iran and not lose many wickets to win. If Sri Lanka win today's match they will move to 5th position in the points table.

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Ben Stokes just gone, and with that goes all hopes of making decent score for the England. You can understand team batter's poor performance when chasing high scores but here they are batting first yet such fail show.

Quote from: HelliumZ on October 26, 2023, 06:05:26 AM

Except for Ben Stokes, the rest of the players do not think that England is playing when they see their run figures. Today England's game is worse than Netherlands and Bangladesh.

Openers did okaish imo.

By the time I was done writing this comment, 9th wicket also gone.

With this match Sri Lanka also making comeback to the tournament, other being Aussies. They will try to put the end to their inning faster to get some extra NRR.

All out at 156.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on October 26, 2023, 06:05:26 AM

Bro 7 gone, It is unimaginable that Josh Buttler's team won the toss and batted first, losing wickets like this nightmare. Except for Ben Stokes, the rest of the players do not think that England is playing when they see their run figures. Today England's game is worse than Netherlands and Bangladesh.

8 wickets gone already...Ben Stokes 43 ... England all hopes Vained today.

Now we can officially come to the conclusion that England is out of this World Cup. Another big upset in the tournament, never imagined that England would be batting in this manner. They might not be able to get 160 runs on the scoreboard. 9 wickets already gone, the batting order collapsed like a house of cards. One of the worst performance by the England cricket team in white ball cricket. This win will boost Srilankan teams net run rate on the points table

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Quote from: Bureau on October 26, 2023, 05:39:38 AM

Quote from: HelliumZ on October 26, 2023, 05:33:24 AM

Are you watching the 2019 champion England's cricket match today?

If England lose today's match, there will be no chance of reaching the semi-finals of the 2023 World Cup. Falling for 6 wickets at 122 runs, England can take a massive 200 runs.

6 wickets already gone it is becoming a nightmare for England. The way they have started batting it looks like they would lose today. Tail enders are now on the pitch and the last known batter Stokes is still playing. If Stokes gets out then it would be the end of England. Suddenly Srilanka looks like a strong team than England today. I doubt England batters would be able to bat till the end of 50 overs.

Bro 7 gone, It is unimaginable that Josh Buttler's team won the toss and batted first, losing wickets like this nightmare. Except for Ben Stokes, the rest of the players do not think that England is playing when they see their run figures. Today England's game is worse than Netherlands and Bangladesh.

8 wickets gone already...Ben Stokes 43 ... England all hopes Vained today.

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The reigning champions England are not playing well in the 2023 World Cup. They are not batting very well against Sri Lanka today and the way they are playing it seems that they may not be able to score more than 200 runs. And if the target of 200 runs is given to Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka will come close to victory very easily. If England loses today's match, then their dream of playing in the semi-final will be broken. To play in the semi-final, England must win today's match. And Sri Lanka is bowling brilliantly. England's current score is 125 for seven with 37 overs to play. Because of Sri Lanka's good bowling, they may be able to restrict England to 200 runs. If they can restrict them to 200 runs then Sri Lanka will win today's match very easily.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on October 26, 2023, 05:33:24 AM

Are you watching the 2019 champion England's cricket match today?

If England lose today's match, there will be no chance of reaching the semi-finals of the 2023 World Cup. Falling for 6 wickets at 122 runs, England can take a massive 200 runs.

6 wickets already gone it is becoming a nightmare for England. The way they have started batting it looks like they would lose today. Tail enders are now on the pitch and the last known batter Stokes is still playing. If Stokes gets out then it would be the end of England. Suddenly Srilanka looks like a strong team than England today. I doubt England batters would be able to bat till the end of 50 overs.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2023, 05:20:00 AM

LOL.. It could have been much worse for England, but Ben Stokes managed to overturn a decision from the umpire to give him out LBW. Still plenty of overs remaining for England. They are at 94/5 after 21 overs. If the two batsmen (Ben Stokes and Moeen Ali) who are currently at the crease can dig in and build a partnership, then it maybe possible for England to reach to a total of around 250. But even that is not going to be enough at Chinnaswamy. Let's also not forget the fact that Lankan batsmen are in top form right now.

Last season's World Cup winner England is not doing well in the World Cup this time as they have won only one match in four matches and are in the eighth position of the points table. If England lose to Sri Lanka in this important match today, they will miss out from the second round of this World Cup. Today's match can never be expected for England from their current condition because at this moment England has lost 6 wickets and collected 122 runs. Although they have enough overs in hand, they will not be able to complete the match today as they do not have enough wickets. So I think it is not sure if England can score 200 runs today. I initially predicted in favor of England but now seeing the condition of England I can say for sure that England will be unimaginably defeated by Sri Lanka today.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 26, 2023, 05:20:00 AM

LOL.. It could have been much worse for England, but Ben Stokes managed to overturn a decision from the umpire to give him out LBW. Still plenty of overs remaining for England. They are at 94/5 after 21 overs. If the two batsmen (Ben Stokes and Moeen Ali) who are currently at the crease can dig in and build a partnership, then it maybe possible for England to reach to a total of around 250. But even that is not going to be enough at Chinnaswamy. Let's also not forget the fact that Lankan batsmen are in top form right now.

Are you watching the 2019 champion England's cricket match today?

If England lose today's match, there will be no chance of reaching the semi-finals of the 2023 World Cup. Falling for 6 wickets at 122 runs, England can take a massive 200 runs.

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LOL.. It could have been much worse for England, but Ben Stokes managed to overturn a decision from the umpire to give him out LBW. Still plenty of overs remaining for England. They are at 94/5 after 21 overs. If the two batsmen (Ben Stokes and Moeen Ali) who are currently at the crease can dig in and build a partnership, then it maybe possible for England to reach to a total of around 250. But even that is not going to be enough at Chinnaswamy. Let's also not forget the fact that Lankan batsmen are in top form right now.

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Excellent start by the Srilankan team, they have already wiped out half of the English side before the end of 20th over. I have never seen such a batting collapse from England. The current run rate is below 5, it might go below 4. If they lose a couple of wickets more than England might not even get 200 runs against Srilanka.

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Quote from: jasonjm on October 26, 2023, 04:48:10 AM

...and they can easily bat with over 10 run rate in the last 10 overs.

Lol, England 85/5, from the looks of it they will be all-out by last 10 overs.

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England is 77/4, and they are in all sorts of trouble. So far so good from the Sri Lankan bowling lineup. They are bowling at tight length after the early onslaught by Malan and Bairstow. England batters looked under pressure. Luckily for Sri Lanka, Bairstow got out after a massive first-ball chance. Bairstow's trouble with the bat continued in this World Cup. Sri Lanka, at the moment, is in complete control, and Stokes looks frustrated by the length bowling. England needs to build a partnership here and should slowly increase their run rate till 35 overs. Their lower order has some explosive batsmen, and they can easily bat with over 10 run rate in the last 10 overs.
I think the pitch is not behaving as everyone expected and is not as flat as we have seen in the last couple of matches.

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The match is turning out to be very competitive, unlike the odds that were provided by various sportsbooks. And that is going to be bad news for England, who desperately need a win today to keep their semi-final chances alive. If either England or Sri Lanka lose the match today, then they can't qualify for the semi-finals even if they win all of their remaining matches. And at this point, Sri Lanka is on top as they have England at 68/3. England has lost half of their top-order, including Jonny Bairstow, Dawid Malan and Joe Root.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 26, 2023, 12:32:38 AM

It would look bad and at times a waste of resources but in the long run it's good for the overall health of cricket and arguably the only way.

No one will be interested if we had such kind of tournament, that is why the qualifiers are in place and only certain number of teams are selected to play at the big arena. If associate nations wants to be there then they have to make a statement that they can be a capable team by qualifying to this stage.

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Quote from: elevates on October 26, 2023, 12:47:33 AM

England takes on Srilanka today at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium. The pitch is know to help spin bowling. I think Srilanka might get an upper edge over England here. Which ever team win the toss would choose to bat first as the pitch tends to become slower as the match progresses. The betting odds shows England as the favourite today.

Betting Odds

England - 1.31
Sri Lanka - 3.55

Do you guys think Srilanka can win today or England has the upper edge?

Not from betting odds my prediction is that England will win against Sri Lanka today. England have now won the toss and collected 53 runs for the loss of one wicket in 8.3 overs. Both teams have played four matches in this World Cup, the world champion England has won only one match, while Sri Lanka has won only one match and is at the 8th and 7th position of the points table. However, none of the two teams have hope of surviving in the next round of this World Cup. Because they are at minus(-) points in the points table. So if I predict today's match I will definitely predict for England.

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Quote from: elevates on October 26, 2023, 12:47:33 AM

England takes on Srilanka today at M. Chinnaswamy Stadium. The pitch is know to help spin bowling. I think Srilanka might get an upper edge over England here. Which ever team win the toss would choose to bat first as the pitch tends to become slower as the match progresses. The betting odds shows England as the favourite today.

Betting Odds

England - 1.31
Sri Lanka - 3.55

Do you guys think Srilanka can win today or England has the upper edge?

Odd not a factor. In this year's World Cup matches, the team which goes to the toss first, if the team scores 300 plus runs, will definitely win the match. Today, however, David Malan did the smart thing by winning the toss and opting to bat. 90% chance England will win today. But England are batting very aggressively today to chase down the 300 plus target. But if the Sri Lankan bowlers can break the opening pair very quickly, the runs will be under some pressure.

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