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Topic: ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 76. (Read 12164 times)

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October 18, 2023, 10:33:08 PM
Hosts India are in great form in the ICC ODI World Cup at home. Rohit Sharma's team has won all three matches in a row. As a result, the possibility of playing in the semi-finals of the World Cup mission has also strengthened.  On the other hand, despite winning the first match, Shakib Al Hasan's team is under some pressure after losing two consecutive matches. India vs Bangladesh match is very challenging for Bangladesh on the one hand Rohit Sharma's team is in great form they are bowling and batting very well every player is playing well.
The Tigers will face hosts India in their fourth match at the Maharashtra Cricket Association (MCA) Stadium in Pune today. The match will start at 2:30 PM. To play against India, if Bangladesh go to toss, they have to bat and they have to score at least 300 plus runs, then it will be a bit of a challenge, I hope Bangladesh team will play very well. Best wishes for Bangladesh team.
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October 18, 2023, 02:44:20 PM
^^ You can't expect to win match when you are dropping easy catches. it was so frustrating to watch them field and throwing was embarrassing, if they were quick on the field then they had at least 2 runout chances as well so they deserve to lose this match.

They dropped Young when he was on single digit and he stitched a crucial partnership with the Rachin (he was dropped too). Then Afghan went to drop 2 more simple catches. Latham and Glenn Phillips punished them for that.
Yep, I did watch those 2 dropped catches especially at the slip and another one is just a sitter after that I just tracked down the scores only so can't able to experience their embarrassing moments. Grin Anyway Afgans batted really poor so even if they managed to get the NZ under 200 they still failed to score on this pitch.

Another fun fact I found, Afghanistan is having the lowest batting average of all the playing nations in between 10-40 overs, this proves that their middle order didn't contribute anything to the scores.

The main reason for Afghanistan's poor performance in this World Cup is their middle order. I haven't seen the middle order players batting responsibly in a single match yet. Afghanistan team lost in every match by a big margin. Afghanistan's two openers played quite well against England. Also Ikram's performance was good. So finally Descent was able to provide a target to the team. Besides, we have seen bad batting of Afghanistan against New Zealand, India and Bangladesh.

Afghanistan's bowlers are doing well enough. I have no complaints about their performance. If Afghanistan could have fielded well, it would have been challenging for New Zealand to score 200 runs. Bad fielding was one of the major reasons behind Afghanistan's defeat in today's match.
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October 18, 2023, 02:42:28 PM
Can Afghanistan defeat New Zealand today?

After yesterday and day before anything can happen today. None of us expected Afghanistan to defend and beat the English team. Yesterday again none of us expected the Netherlands to defend and beat the South Africans.

If today Afghanistan bats first then I think they might be able to beat the Kiwis. As the match is being played in Chennai the spinners would get good assistance from the pitch. Everyone would be watching today's match.
New Zealand won by 149 runs. New Zealand set a good target of 288 runs in loss of 6 wickets in 50 Overs, 78 Runs in last 6 Overs New Zealand finish on 288 runs in first inning. While chasing down the taregt Afghanistan all out in just 139 runs in 35 Overs. batting performance of Afghanistan is very disappointed only afghan batter Ikram Alikhil played an 19 runs unbeaten inning in just 21 balls.

The Bowling performance of New Zealand is outstanding especially  Mitchell Santner picked 3 important wicktes by giving 33 runs in 7.4 overs ans Lockie Ferguson also bowl well picked up 3 wickets by giving only 19 runs in 7 Overs. The player of the match is Glenn Phillips for his amazing under pressure inning of 71 runs in 80 balls and reach New Zealand total at 280 plus.
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October 18, 2023, 02:37:21 PM
^^ You can't expect to win match when you are dropping easy catches. it was so frustrating to watch them field and throwing was embarrassing, if they were quick on the field then they had at least 2 runout chances as well so they deserve to lose this match.

They dropped Young when he was on single digit and he stitched a crucial partnership with the Rachin (he was dropped too). Then Afghan went to drop 2 more simple catches. Latham and Glenn Phillips punished them for that.
Yep, I did watch those 2 dropped catches especially at the slip and another one is just a sitter after that I just tracked down the scores only so can't able to experience their embarrassing moments. Grin Anyway Afgans batted really poor so even if they managed to get the NZ under 200 they still failed to score on this pitch.

Another fun fact I found, Afghanistan is having the lowest batting average of all the playing nations in between 10-40 overs, this proves that their middle order didn't contribute anything to the scores.
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October 18, 2023, 02:15:41 PM
^^ You can't expect to win match when you are dropping easy catches. it was so frustrating to watch them field and throwing was embarrassing, if they were quick on the field then they had at least 2 runout chances as well so they deserve to lose this match.

They dropped Young when he was on single digit and he stitched a crucial partnership with the Rachin (he was dropped too). Then Afghan went to drop 2 more simple catches. Latham and Glenn Phillips punished them for that.
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October 18, 2023, 01:55:25 PM
Surprisingly Afghanistan won the toss but decided to bowl first, I expected to follow the same formula which is bat first, put a decent total then they have a very good bowling unit to be a threat even if its 230+ score since the match is happening in Chennai which is highly spin friendly pitch.

The match started already and AFG dropped an early chance, which they can't afford to do if they want to bear a team with this form.

Afghan batting is in poor shape and that maybe the reason why they chose to field first. Even during the match against England,

I think if their bowling is their strongest then they should opted to bat first and try to defend the total with the best possible way, but AFG tried to do it other way around and failed miserably. Now NZ got back to the table-top again with better run rate.

So it's like little cat and mouse between India and NZ for the first position now and probably India can regain the top place if they win against Bangladesh. But Bangladesh has wonderful record against India, and they are also capable of upsetting any team, and they consistently did for very long and in 2007 they knocked India out of super 8.
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October 18, 2023, 11:28:36 AM
And they lost 2 wickets in quick succession, this game is now being controlled by the New Zealand team. I was expecting the Afghans to bat sensibly in the present condition. Santer is able to spin the ball so much that I feel that this match can go anywhere if Afghanistan batters are able to hold their nerves. The turn on that pitch is so much that he is unable to control it, as he is getting some wide balls. It won't be easy for the batters to bat on this pitch whenever the spinners are bowling. As of now Afghanistan after losing 2 wickets are still trying to form a partnership.
Afghanistan bowled very well in today's match. At that time I thought that maybe today will make New Zealand cry. But at the end of 35 overs, New Zealand performed very well and set a target of 289 runs till the end. After starting batting in the 2nd innings, Afghanistan lost 3 wickets in the first 15 overs and picked up 50 runs. From this it is completely understood that New Zealand is bowling very well. Trent Boult and Matt Henry are doing well in New Zealand bowling today. Tara gives 12 and 16 in 5 overs which is very disappointing for Afghanistan. If Afghanistan has to win the match then 7.02 runs should be scored per over.

At the beginning of the innings, the bowlers of Afghanistan bowled well, but at the end they could not maintain this consistency. New Zealand's top order returned to the dressing room quite quickly. But the middle order players were able to bat very well. A target of 289 runs is a big enough target.

New Zealand bowlers have bowled brilliantly today. Ferguson in particular bowled well in today's match. He picked up three wickets with just 19 runs in 7 overs. Rahmat Shah was able to collect the maximum 36 runs for Afghanistan. Afghanistan's innings ended with just 139 runs. I at least thought Afghanistan would collect 200+ today. But they batted very badly. The overall performance of the team depends on the performance of the two openers.
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October 18, 2023, 11:22:10 AM
And they lost 2 wickets in quick succession, this game is now being controlled by the New Zealand team. I was expecting the Afghans to bat sensibly in the present condition. Santer is able to spin the ball so much that I feel that this match can go anywhere if Afghanistan batters are able to hold their nerves. The turn on that pitch is so much that he is unable to control it, as he is getting some wide balls. It won't be easy for the batters to bat on this pitch whenever the spinners are bowling. As of now Afghanistan after losing 2 wickets are still trying to form a partnership.
The complete game is currently under the control of New Zealand, as the Afghanistan team has lost 8 wickets at the moment. And with the loss of so many wickets we can say that Afghanistan are in despair, and they will be all out very soon. Afghanistan's batting is currently in a very poor position, and they cannot take the team to a good place at the moment. A good bowling performance so far, New Zealand have been bowling brilliantly, due to which Afghanistan have not been able to stay at the crease. And I think that the Afghanistan team in the current position will not be able to make a pair from here, because they are almost at the last position. At the moment, Afghanistan needs to score 151 runs from 96 balls to win the match, which is never possible, if they had a good wicket, it would have been possible. But they have no wickets and no good batsmen, so they will not be able to complete the target, and the New Zealand team will win today by a huge margin.
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October 18, 2023, 10:15:50 AM
And they lost 2 wickets in quick succession, this game is now being controlled by the New Zealand team. I was expecting the Afghans to bat sensibly in the present condition. Santer is able to spin the ball so much that I feel that this match can go anywhere if Afghanistan batters are able to hold their nerves. The turn on that pitch is so much that he is unable to control it, as he is getting some wide balls. It won't be easy for the batters to bat on this pitch whenever the spinners are bowling. As of now Afghanistan after losing 2 wickets are still trying to form a partnership.

Afghanistan bowled very well in today's match. At that time I thought that maybe today will make New Zealand cry. But at the end of 35 overs, New Zealand performed very well and set a target of 289 runs till the end. After starting batting in the 2nd innings, Afghanistan lost 3 wickets in the first 15 overs and picked up 50 runs. From this it is completely understood that New Zealand is bowling very well. Trent Boult and Matt Henry are doing well in New Zealand bowling today. Tara gives 12 and 16 in 5 overs which is very disappointing for Afghanistan. If Afghanistan has to win the match then 7.02 runs should be scored per over.
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October 18, 2023, 09:44:49 AM
And they lost 2 wickets in quick succession, this game is now being controlled by the New Zealand team. I was expecting the Afghans to bat sensibly in the present condition. Santer is able to spin the ball so much that I feel that this match can go anywhere if Afghanistan batters are able to hold their nerves. The turn on that pitch is so much that he is unable to control it, as he is getting some wide balls. It won't be easy for the batters to bat on this pitch whenever the spinners are bowling. As of now Afghanistan after losing 2 wickets are still trying to form a partnership.
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October 18, 2023, 09:07:33 AM
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Afghanistan's bowling lineup has been building for the last couple of years and they improving their batting line as well. This is 4th match for the Afghans and they will come back to 4th position in the point table if they can defeat New Zealand today. 2nd upset in a row? Let's see.
Afghanistan has a great bowling line up and the Indian pitches will help them greatly, New Zealand had a slight slip up in the middle order but the partnership between Tom Latham and Glenn Phillips helped reach reach a decent total and considering the pitch condition, New Zealand will be able to defend the total unless someone steps up from Afghanistan and plays an incredible innings taking Afghanistan to victory.
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October 18, 2023, 09:03:01 AM
Another good comeback by the New Zealand side they were once 29/3. Latham and Phillips's 144-run partnership saved them from another big upset in the World Cup. Afghanistan's bowling was perfect but the fielding was so bad that they were unable to put more pressure on the opponent team. 289 runs is a big target on a pitch that supports spin attack. New Zealand has a few spinners on their team but only one of them is playing today. I am not sure if the pace attack can be fruitful on the Chennai pitch.
New Zealand scored as many runs as they needed to win. Of course I will keep New Zealand ahead of 288 runs. New Zealand's tough fast bowlers to deal with Afghanistan's batsmen don't know how long Afghanistan's batsmen can last on the wicket against a tough bowling line-up. New Zealand will definitely want to build pressure on their opponents from the start. The second innings has already started. The two opening batsmen will surely try their best to do something for the team. 288 is a lot considering New Zealand's first bowling line-up but if the batsmen can play patiently then 289 will not be impossible for Afghanistan.
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October 18, 2023, 08:45:06 AM
Another good comeback by the New Zealand side they were once 29/3. Latham and Phillips's 144-run partnership saved them from another big upset in the World Cup. Afghanistan's bowling was perfect but the fielding was so bad that they were unable to put more pressure on the opponent team. 289 runs is a big target on a pitch that supports spin attack. New Zealand has a few spinners on their team but only one of them is playing today. I am not sure if the pace attack can be fruitful on the Chennai pitch.

Imagine what will happen if Afghanistan manages to defeat the Black Caps today. New Zealand did not lose any match in this World Cup so far. If Afghanistan can beat them today, the Afghans will be pumped up as they already beat England in their last game. Even though we call it upset, I guess we should not say it as upset because those teams have the capability to defeat any team on their day.

Afghanistan's bowling lineup has been building for the last couple of years and they improving their batting line as well. This is 4th match for the Afghans and they will come back to 4th position in the point table if they can defeat New Zealand today. 2nd upset in a row? Let's see.
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October 18, 2023, 08:35:32 AM
Another good comeback by the New Zealand side they were once 29/3. Latham and Phillips's 144-run partnership saved them from another big upset in the World Cup. Afghanistan's bowling was perfect but the fielding was so bad that they were unable to put more pressure on the opponent team. 289 runs is a big target on a pitch that supports spin attack. New Zealand has a few spinners on their team but only one of them is playing today. I am not sure if the pace attack can be fruitful on the Chennai pitch.
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October 18, 2023, 07:31:31 AM
Afghanistan won the toss and elected to field first . New Zealand batters are playing good and New Zealand score is 162 with fall of 4 wickets .Will Young played good inning and made  54 runs with just 64 balls , Ravindra scored  32 runs in just 41 balls  and Convey made 20 runs by facing only 18 balls .Tom Latham is not out on the crease and if he performed fifty for his country score will go 280 + and Afghanistan can't chase this score against New Zealand because their strength is bowling and they lack in batting .In this match ,New Zealand is favorite and they will win but there are rare chances for Afghanistan to upset New Zealand.Santner is good all rounder and he has  capability to change the side of match .Match will be excellent for the fans but Afghanistan has to be calm on the wicket and set and set a partnership but this is impossible for Afghani's because they perform aggressive and In ODI cricket,mosty aggressive batsmans are not successful to chase this score . Afghani's give wicket to bowlers for a reward .From Afghanistan side ,no bowler is performing good  but Omarzai took 2 wickets by giving  18 runs in 5  overs .
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October 18, 2023, 06:34:00 AM
After few minutes before, toss had already done between both teams and toss was in the favour of Afghanistan team and they decided to bowling in the crease. I feel that this match is one sided because New Zealand is a strong and experience team then Afghanistan and also according to points table New Zealand won all three matches which they played in previous and Afghanistan team only won one match. New Zealand is batting in crease at this time, they have been made 65 score in 11 overs and they also lose one wicket is Devon Conway which was good batsman from New Zealand. Presently, Will Young and Rachin Ravindra are in the crease and if their combo lasts longer, they will successfully giving a high target to Afghanistan team.
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October 18, 2023, 06:08:12 AM
Afghanistan and New Zealand are facing each other in their fourth ODI World Cup match. Afghanistan captain Hashmatullah Shahidi won the toss and invited New Zealand to bat first. New Zealand's opening pair are progressing well, they have made some good runs, Conway did not play well and was dismissed by Mujeeb after 20 runs. The New Zealand team was not shocked by that. Will young and Rachin Ravindra played very well and their partnership developed very well. New Zealand's current score is 105 runs for one wicket with 17 overs to play, with the current pace of play, it looks like New Zealand can easily score 300 plus runs. If 300 plus runs then the target will be a bit tough for Afghanistan so Afghans should restrict them to 270 runs.
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October 18, 2023, 05:46:25 AM
Surprisingly Afghanistan won the toss but decided to bowl first, I expected to follow the same formula which is bat first, put a decent total then they have a very good bowling unit to be a threat even if its 230+ score since the match is happening in Chennai which is highly spin friendly pitch.

The match started already and AFG dropped an early chance, which they can't afford to do if they want to bear a team with this form.

Afghan batting is in poor shape and that maybe the reason why they chose to field first. Even during the match against England, it was individual performance from two batsmen (Rahmanullah Gurbaz and Ikram Alikhil) that enabled them to post a good total. Hashmatullah Shahidi made 80 against India, but he didn't contributed in the other two matches. Azmatullah Omarzai also made 62 against India, but got out cheaply in other matches. Others like Rahmat Shah Zurmatai, Ibrahim Zadran and Mohammad Nabi are yet to contribute positively with the bat. 
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October 18, 2023, 05:25:50 AM
Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.
Yes it depends on toss .If Afghanistan won the toss and set a score of 270+ ,then it will be very difficult for New Zealand to chase this match.Afghanistan Spinners are very dangerous ,they can bend the match into their sides , especially Rashid Khan which performance is outstanding in all format , he made strong when he came in the International team of Afghanistan.Mujeeb ur Rehman is also excellent bowler and Muhammad Nabi can also perform well. And lf  Rashid Khan and Mujeeb ur Rehman took wickets in middle overs and New Zealand could not on wicket , Afghanistan will win this match.Hashmatullah is good batter , he can change the side of the match .
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October 18, 2023, 04:52:07 AM
Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.
Yet to place a bet and with the two upsets, probably wait till the toss and might place a bet against the team chasing as Afghanistan has good spinners and if New Zealand is chasing then they might get into trouble like England.

Surprisingly Afghanistan won the toss but decided to bowl first, I expected to follow the same formula which is bat first, put a decent total then they have a very good bowling unit to be a threat even if its 230+ score since the match is happening in Chennai which is highly spin friendly pitch.

The match started already and AFG dropped an early chance, which they can't afford to do if they want to bear a team with this form.
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