ICC WORLD CUP 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD! - page 77.

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Quote from: elevates on October 18, 2023, 01:06:44 AM

The sixteenth match of the World Cup will be played today at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium. After defeating England the Afghanistan team would be eyeing another victory against the New Zealand team. According to the betting odds New Zealand are the favourite to win today.

Betting Odds

New Zealand - 1.26
Afghanistan - 4.00

Can Afghanistan defeat New Zealand today?

The 16th match of the World Cup will be played between New Zealand and Afghanistan. Both the teams played 3 matches each in this World Cup where New Zealand won all the three matches. On the other hand, Afghanistan played 3 matches and won 1. New Zealand is on the 2nd position in the points table and Afghanistan is on the 8th position in the points table. But today I can predict for New Zealand because New Zealand is very strong and reliable team in this world cup. I will bet for New Zealand in today's match I know my bet will succeed today.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 17, 2023, 10:51:35 PM

It hardly looks like an accident this time. South Africa might be complacent in the last T-20 WC but that wasn't the case last night. They were talking about it "taking no chances" before the match.

At one point Dutch were 82/5, but still, they managed to set a respectable target and not to forget these guys also added 100 runs in the last 8 overs. I wish for more such results so that teams like Afghanistan and Netherlands become the kingmakers.

They were 82/5, then 112/6 and finally when Logan van Beek got out they were 140/7. And from this stage Scott Edwards, Roelof van der Merwe and Aryan Dutt got them to 245/8. Netherlands scored a total of 105 runs in the last 9 overs. The South African pacers (Lungi Ngidi, Kagiso Rabada and Gerald Coetzee) were leaking too many runs during the depth overs and the South African captain erred by not giving Marco Jansen the maximum number of overs available. And while batting South Africa could not capitalize on the good start they got.

I believe Temba Bavuma might be a problem of this great team. He seems to struggle with both captaincy and batting. In yesterday match against Netherlands on a good batting pitch, he made decisions to bowl first. However, their bowlers were not organized. However, Netherlands played better and more passionate cricket than South Africa, impressing everyone.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 18, 2023, 01:14:58 AM

After yesterday and day before anything can happen today. None of us expected Afghanistan to defend and beat the English team. Yesterday again none of us expected the Netherlands to defend and beat the South Africans.

If today Afghanistan bats first then I think they might be able to beat the Kiwis. As the match is being played in Chennai the spinners would get good assistance from the pitch. Everyone would be watching today's match.

In both the instances, the team batting first won. Netherlands defended a miniscule total of 245 (albeit from 43 overs), while Afghanistan was able to defend a total of 284. But that doesn't mean that teams batting first had any sort of advantage so far in the world cup. Out of the 15 matches completed so far, 8 were won by the team batting second while 7 were won by the team batting first. So there is no big divide here. Anyway, the match is going to take place at the MA Chidambaram Stadium in Chepauk, so naturally there will be an advantage for Afghanistan.

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Quote from: elevates on October 18, 2023, 01:06:44 AM

Can Afghanistan defeat New Zealand today?

After yesterday and day before anything can happen today. None of us expected Afghanistan to defend and beat the English team. Yesterday again none of us expected the Netherlands to defend and beat the South Africans.

If today Afghanistan bats first then I think they might be able to beat the Kiwis. As the match is being played in Chennai the spinners would get good assistance from the pitch. Everyone would be watching today's match.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 17, 2023, 12:58:13 PM

Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.

New Zealand team that has won every match in this World Cup. They have already won against England, Netherlands and Bangladesh and I expect New Zealand to win again in today's match. But Afghanistan played a great match against England. Everyone knows that they have a good bowling line-up. Afghanistan secured a 69-run win against England. They have some well-known bowlers who upset the entire England team. Rashid Khan, Nabi and Mujibur Rahman each kept wickets in their basket. However, it is impossible to predict whether New Zealand will be able to take any action against Afghanistan until it is seen in the field.

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The sixteenth match of the World Cup will be played today at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium. After defeating England the Afghanistan team would be eyeing another victory against the New Zealand team. According to the betting odds New Zealand are the favourite to win today.

Betting Odds

New Zealand - 1.26
Afghanistan - 4.00

Can Afghanistan defeat New Zealand today?

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 17, 2023, 10:51:35 PM

It hardly looks like an accident this time. South Africa might be complacent in the last T-20 WC but that wasn't the case last night. They were talking about it "taking no chances" before the match.

At one point Dutch were 82/5, but still, they managed to set a respectable target and not to forget these guys also added 100 runs in the last 8 overs. I wish for more such results so that teams like Afghanistan and Netherlands become the kingmakers.

They were 82/5, then 112/6 and finally when Logan van Beek got out they were 140/7. And from this stage Scott Edwards, Roelof van der Merwe and Aryan Dutt got them to 245/8. Netherlands scored a total of 105 runs in the last 9 overs. The South African pacers (Lungi Ngidi, Kagiso Rabada and Gerald Coetzee) were leaking too many runs during the depth overs and the South African captain erred by not giving Marco Jansen the maximum number of overs available. And while batting South Africa could not capitalize on the good start they got.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 17, 2023, 07:00:13 PM

I would say it was an accident. No one expected the Netherlands to win. South Africa's erratic bowling was one of the reasons for their defeat. I was very disappointed with South Africa's bowling. After losing 4 wickets for 50 runs, Netherlands set a huge target of 246 in 43 overs. South Africa gave 32 extra runs in this match. They have scored 21 wide balls. 32 runs extra in 43 overs is too much. Even if the target was around 200, maybe South Africa would have won.

Afghanistan players are now very confident after the win against England. There is no doubt that New Zealand is a strong team. But since the pitch is spin friendly I would say Afghanistan team cannot be considered weak in this match. They have several excellent spin bowlers. There will be no surprise if New Zealand loses.

It hardly looks like an accident this time. South Africa might be complacent in the last T-20 WC but that wasn't the case last night. They were talking about it "taking no chances" before the match.

At one point Dutch were 82/5, but still, they managed to set a respectable target and not to forget these guys also added 100 runs in the last 8 overs. I wish for more such results so that teams like Afghanistan and Netherlands become the kingmakers.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 17, 2023, 12:58:13 PM

Netherlands won the match and the tournament is getting interesting with this upset and two upsets in 3 days of time frame, probably this is going to be the most exciting edition as far as I know because its still the early days of tournament, and we witnessed two upsets already.

Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.

@Bitcoin Smith I think now we have reached a stage where the upsets will stop happening because all the team’s should now be aware that if they don’t put in their best performance they’ll end up losing the game. Lastly while Afghanistan will have the advantage due to their spinners yet I feel that New Zealand shall be able to beat them due to their experience and superiority of their player’s.

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Yesterday's win by Netherlands was more like a slap for the ICC. They reduced the number of participants to 10, to weed out associate teams from the main tournament. Netherlands still managed to qualify despite this, by defeating three test nations during the qualifier tournament (Scotland also deserved a chance to be here). It was a team effort from them. Each and every member contributed to the win. There were crucial contributions from lower order batsmen such as Roelof van der Merwe and Aryan Dutt, while their bowlers chipped in with crucial wickets at the right time.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 17, 2023, 12:58:13 PM

Netherlands won the match and the tournament is getting interesting with this upset and two upsets in 3 days of time frame, probably this is going to be the most exciting edition as far as I know because its still the early days of tournament, and we witnessed two upsets already.

Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.

I would say it was an accident. No one expected the Netherlands to win. South Africa's erratic bowling was one of the reasons for their defeat. I was very disappointed with South Africa's bowling. After losing 4 wickets for 50 runs, Netherlands set a huge target of 246 in 43 overs. South Africa gave 32 extra runs in this match. They have scored 21 wide balls. 32 runs extra in 43 overs is too much. Even if the target was around 200, maybe South Africa would have won.

Afghanistan players are now very confident after the win against England. There is no doubt that New Zealand is a strong team. But since the pitch is spin friendly I would say Afghanistan team cannot be considered weak in this match. They have several excellent spin bowlers. There will be no surprise if New Zealand loses.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 17, 2023, 12:58:13 PM

Netherlands won the match and the tournament is getting interesting with this upset and two upsets in 3 days of time frame, probably this is going to be the most exciting edition as far as I know because its still the early days of tournament, and we witnessed two upsets already.

Two of the biggest upsets are teams that are chasing lost the matches, difficult to bat under lights, looks like they have demons in the pitch with the way minions are dominating big teams. Anyone placing bets on underdogs are making a fortune

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 17, 2023, 12:58:13 PM

Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.

Yet to place a bet and with the two upsets, probably wait till the toss and might place a bet against the team chasing as Afghanistan has good spinners and if New Zealand is chasing then they might get into trouble like England.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 17, 2023, 12:58:13 PM

Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.

Afghanistan is not as good as New Zealand is now they are struggling hard but they won the previous match from England. But I didn't think that we would win the match against the top team New Zealand. Two top teams are standing at the top of the World Cup 2023 points table. The First Team on the points table is India with 6 points as they won their 3 matches and the 2nd position was secured by New Zealand they also won their 3 in 3 matches which is a great success for them. As New Zealand's batting side is marvelous these days and their bowling has some good quality bowlers like Trent Boult.

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Netherlands won the match and the tournament is getting interesting with this upset and two upsets in 3 days of time frame, probably this is going to be the most exciting edition as far as I know because its still the early days of tournament, and we witnessed two upsets already.

Tomorrow we have New Zealand vs Afghanistan match at Chepauk which is highly spin friendly, so hopefully there can be another thriller tomorrow if AFG batters did decent job another important news Kane Williamson will not be available due to the injury which is going to be a major concern for NZ in the upcoming matches.

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Quote from: elevates on October 17, 2023, 11:20:38 AM

LOL! Another big upset in the making. South Africa lost 6 wickets and have chased 116 runs out of 246, they need 130 runs. The asking run rate is going up... up and away. The current asking run rate is 7.69 and it might go up, an interesting situation has arisen again.

Do you guys still think South Africa will be able to win this game?

Another setback in world cup, Netherlands has pulled off a historic win by 38 runs in Dharamsala against South Africa. Netherlands bowlers deliver an exceptional performance with the ball, batting performance a historic victory, Netherlands all out South Africa in 207 runs in 42.5 Overs. Netherlands bowling performance is very well picked four wickets in four consecutive overs for Netherlands. Netherlands are on top after picking early 4 South Africa Crusial wickets by score 44 runs in 11.2 Overs.The player of the match is Scott Edwards for his Outstanding batting performance scoring 78 unbeaten runs in 69 balls. Congratulations to Netherlands make history with their first World Cup win over a Test-playing nation South Africa.

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Quote from: elevates on October 17, 2023, 11:20:38 AM

LOL! Another big upset in the making. South Africa lost 6 wickets and have chased 116 runs out of 246, they need 130 runs. The asking run rate is going up... up and away. The current asking run rate is 7.69 and it might go up, an interesting situation has arisen again.

Do you guys still think South Africa will be able to win this game?

South Africa now need 101 runs from just 72 balls to win. Netherlands lost the toss and went into bat first. But with a very poor start and a very good end, Netherlands collected 245 runs for 8 wickets. I initially thought the Netherlands would easily lose to South Africa in today's match. But the current batting performance of South Africa seems to be very different between South Africa of yesteryear and South Africa of today. It is amazing to think how this South Africa is going to lose to Netherlands today after winning two out of two matches in this World Cup. South Africa are currently 145 runs short of a target of 246 for the loss of 7 wickets. South Africa need 101 runs from 72 balls to win today's match. If South Africa have enough wickets at the moment, this run may not matter. Africa doesn't have enough wickets at the moment, I think South Africa will definitely lose to Netherlands in this match.

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Quote from: elevates on October 17, 2023, 11:20:38 AM

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Do you guys still think South Africa will be able to win this game?

Not anymore, South Africa lost their only hope in Miller as he was clean bowled with an incredible delivery, never thought we would see an upset from Netherlands against South Africa and the odds were crazy high throughout the match, they defeated South Africa last year in the T20 World Cup but this is a real humiliation in ODI as Netherlands never defeated a full member team and they are creating history here.

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Quote from: elevates on October 17, 2023, 11:20:38 AM

Do you guys still think South Africa will be able to win this game?

I really hope not,

This is a huge upset that too by netherlands against a historically strong cricket nation

its a big big win for the minor nations and a perhaps a big rivalty brewing as less than a year ago netherlands beat south africa to kick them out of the T20 world cup. Doing it again!?!?

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LOL! Another big upset in the making. South Africa lost 6 wickets and have chased 116 runs out of 246, they need 130 runs. The asking run rate is going up... up and away. The current asking run rate is 7.69 and it might go up, an interesting situation has arisen again.

Do you guys still think South Africa will be able to win this game?

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 17, 2023, 10:29:16 AM

WTF! 4 down for only 62, South African might just got thrashed by the Netherlands. The bowling has been great but the batting has been below average. This game can be the next big upset after England's loss against Afgani team.

Another upset can happen if Klaasen gets out against the Dutch bowling. Dharamshala pitch has become unpredictable as many big teams in this tournament.

It was 44/4, and now they have crawled to 80/4, thanks to a 5th wicket partnership between Heinrich Klaasen and David Miller. But they should be careful here. One more wicket and then they are down to the bowling allrounders (Marco Jansen and Keshav Maharaj). Both Aryan Dutt and Roelof van der Merwe are bowling beautifully at this point. The required run rate is still around 6.3 per over, and that is a big relief for South Africa. If both Klaasen and Miller can stay there for another 15 overs, then they can win this match with ease.

Edit: Logan van Beek does it again. picks up the 5th wicket. Heinrich Klaasen goes back to pavilion and Proteas at 89/5.

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