Topic: Icopress ' Merit Source Application 🚩 (Read 5247 times)
It has been a while when this application was submitted by icopress. It has been a while when the Indian board is not having any active merit source. Still, Theymos is least interested in looking into this application and the one created by @TheUltraElite. I request everyone here to regularly bump both the threads as a good will gesture. I feel I won't be disappointed with my humble request.
It is probably an inevitable eventuality that at some point he will become a merit source but the final time line and decision is in the hands of the admin. There is no disrespect intended to other applicants in Meta but I cannot think of any member that has applied to become a merit source and they happen to be more suitable than icopress.
I recently asked him if he had become a merit source since I wanted him to visit our local board (India) and award some sMerits to deserving topics or posts. He replied that his application had not been approved. I was very disappointed, as he submitted his application long ago.
He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
Sincerely speaking I don't know @icopress isn't a merits source judging from all his activities over here and he is well known. Usually during my start late May 2023, seeing Icepress over here then give me this thinking that he could be among the merits sources also couples with his constants contest hosting in the forum one would feels that is among the sources.
Yeah you are right, approval surely in the hands of admins or theymos. But wait a bit why theymos doesn't want to approve such a reputable member like Icepress. What a hell holding him back not to approve him, or is there any special vote of confidence to approve him? If yes then show me link I don't mind casting my vote for him to be approved.
It is probably an inevitable eventuality that at some point he will become a merit source but the final time line and decision is in the hands of the admin. There is no disrespect intended to other applicants in Meta but I cannot think of any member that has applied to become a merit source and they happen to be more suitable than icopress.
I recently asked him if he had become a merit source since I wanted him to visit our local board (India) and award some sMerits to deserving topics or posts. He replied that his application had not been approved. I was very disappointed, as he submitted his application long ago.
He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
I recently asked him if he had become a merit source since I wanted him to visit our local board (India) and award some sMerits to deserving topics or posts. He replied that his application had not been approved. I was very disappointed, as he submitted his application long ago.
Don't feel too much disappointed to be frank you're not the only one but what can we all do, nothing but wait until Theymos to speak on this issues and at least accept some of the piling applications for some years now.He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
Most LB needs merit source and this side of the forum I can say has been among the part most lacking merit source or allocation and sadly we're still waiting for Theymos to respond to us either by giving more allocation to merit source in the LB or add more merit source there.
I recently asked him if he had become a merit source since I wanted him to visit our local board (India) and award some sMerits to deserving topics or posts. He replied that his application had not been approved. I was very disappointed, as he submitted his application long ago.
He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
He is known for his good reputation, which is evident from the numerous positive conversations he engages in on various local boards as well as the abundance of positive feedback he has received. I firmly believe that he is well-suited to become a merit source, and I fully support his application, just as I did for TheUltraElite. I kindly ask @Theymos to review both applications, as individuals like these two are the reason why users like myself remain active on the forum.
I would like to show my support for this application if it carries any weight. 
icopress is one of the most praiseworthy members of this forum. His reputation speaks volumes for his contributions to this forum, be it as a member or campaign manager, he has always been sincere and honest with whatever he did, and I'm not saying this because I'm a part of one of the campaigns he is managing, but this is what I have observed throughout the time I have spent on this forum.
Just like all other things he did with great enthusiasm and honesty, I'm pretty sure he will be a great merit source as well and the forum and its members will benefit from this for sure.
So, I would request @theymos to accept his application and make him a merit source for us members.
*theymos
icopress is one of the most praiseworthy members of this forum. His reputation speaks volumes for his contributions to this forum, be it as a member or campaign manager, he has always been sincere and honest with whatever he did, and I'm not saying this because I'm a part of one of the campaigns he is managing, but this is what I have observed throughout the time I have spent on this forum.
Just like all other things he did with great enthusiasm and honesty, I'm pretty sure he will be a great merit source as well and the forum and its members will benefit from this for sure.
So, I would request @theymos to accept his application and make him a merit source for us members.
I would say that Thymos should review that the forum needs more merit sources, and especially the forum needs generous merit like @icopress. So kindly consider this, Thymos.
*theymos
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I think beyond any doubt, you have a super reputation and also have good ability in every aspect. @icopress is one of the greatest forum members; he has contributed a lot to the forum.
Considering all these leading services, I am sure that there is no one better than @icopress who has the right to be a merit source, i.e. out of all the merit source applications I have seen, I am the most prominent and a unique member. I saw it was @icopress and by concluding it, I claim that no one can be more entitled to the merit source than this person. By elobrating this, I would say that Thymos should review that the forum needs more merit sources, and especially the forum needs generous merit like @icopress. So kindly consider this, Thymos.
Friendly bump! I still believe that Icopress is going to be a great merit source for this forum. I highly support his application and believe Theymos will also consider Icopress's application.
I believe it would be helpful to have some new merit sources, I know the present merit sources are doing quite well but new ones are still needed to merit the useful posts.
I believe it would be helpful to have some new merit sources, I know the present merit sources are doing quite well but new ones are still needed to merit the useful posts.
Again Theymos, could you please validate the few merit sources "to-be" that have applied? I believe you can see this....cus I read something about some merit circle yesterday... That's exactly the kinda world we live in.
At the moment, theymos is not considering anyone for the role of m'sources (I believe this will be the case for at least the next 6 months).Beamed you up Scotty
Spend them well.
Sad so sad the anger in your heart ❤️ must weigh you down.
There's no anger. I am trying to explain to you in a rational way that the merits should be given mainly for posts that have quality, not giving them to a person who you like simply because you like him, while you take it as a personal attack.
It seems incredible that with how long you've been on the forum I have to explain this to you and you don't understand it. I guess it's because of the time you've spent in the WO thread, since everything is different there and is tolerated.
So if i like a person must I give all the reasons that I like them to justify the merits I give him.
Is liking him not enough words for you.
Do you want a detailed explanation of why I like him why I trust him?
Here is one reason I like him and trust him. He pays the signature participants the correct amount of money due to them.
The internet will always have issues when writing to communicate.
My apologies if saying I like someone was not detailed enough for your standards.
So me giving him merits is my way of saying he does a good job distributing payments to people. He has been honest from all evidence I have seen. He has done this for years.
All qualites of a good campaign manager.
Is liking him not enough words for you.
Do you want a detailed explanation of why I like him why I trust him?
Here is one reason I like him and trust him. He pays the signature participants the correct amount of money due to them.
The internet will always have issues when writing to communicate.
My apologies if saying I like someone was not detailed enough for your standards.
So me giving him merits is my way of saying he does a good job distributing payments to people. He has been honest from all evidence I have seen. He has done this for years.
All qualites of a good campaign manager.
Come on! Merits do not have to be given to someone because you like him, nor because he is a campaign manager who pays his participants, which is what he is supposed to do.
As I said before, if it wasn't you, someone else doing the same thing would have a dozen people telling him what I'm telling you but since it's you you get a pass, which doesn't take away that you are misusing the merits giving them to people because you like them or because they are good campaign managers.
Sad so sad the anger in your heart ❤️ must weigh you down.
So if i like a person must I give all the reasons that I like them to justify the merits I give him.
Is liking him not enough words for you.
Do you want a detailed explanation of why I like him why I trust him?
Here is one reason I like him and trust him. He pays the signature participants the correct amount of money due to them.
The internet will always have issues when writing to communicate.
My apologies if saying I like someone was not detailed enough for your standards.
So me giving him merits is my way of saying he does a good job distributing payments to people. He has been honest from all evidence I have seen. He has done this for years.
All qualites of a good campaign manager.
Is liking him not enough words for you.
Do you want a detailed explanation of why I like him why I trust him?
Here is one reason I like him and trust him. He pays the signature participants the correct amount of money due to them.
The internet will always have issues when writing to communicate.
My apologies if saying I like someone was not detailed enough for your standards.
So me giving him merits is my way of saying he does a good job distributing payments to people. He has been honest from all evidence I have seen. He has done this for years.
All qualites of a good campaign manager.
Come on! Merits do not have to be given to someone because you like him, nor because he is a campaign manager who pays his participants, which is what he is supposed to do.
As I said before, if it wasn't you, someone else doing the same thing would have a dozen people telling him what I'm telling you but since it's you you get a pass, which doesn't take away that you are misusing the merits giving them to people because you like them or because they are good campaign managers.
It's good that we're being honest lately. Here's an honest question of mine: what are the mitigating factors of having a 12-year-old account? If you think this deserves a neutral feedback, then you should do it regardless the reputation of the user, otherwise you're being dishonest to the new users.
But why?.. tchh! Accountability is part of the core problems we have in our community... Even in my newbie days, I tried as much as possible to point out so many cases that proved our merit system is biased; several elite members never seem to agree with it -- though it was obvious already.., they keep beating about some petty sentiments that doesn't even correlate with the proper way of recycling merits ... You could choose to merit only elite members like yourself if you were never a merit source but; It's a different thing if you've been appointed/allocated merit for sourceship -- you have a duty... The case is different today. Amongst all the reputable members in our forum; if merit sources were inclined to meriting technical post&thread alone/ appointed due to their vast technical knowledge, do you think most members would rank up/ be called up as merit sources??... Lol..THE SYSTEM is made to be as free as possible; but it looks like some powerful people feel others shouldn't be like them.
Sandra 🧑🦰
1) I like icopress I gave him merits because I like him...
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
Do I have to tell you that this is wrong?
That's not what the merit system was created for.
To be honest with you philipma1957, you can say that because you have been on the forum since 2012, you are the human user who has written the most posts etc., otherwise anyone who said that would be severely criticized and I would personally have left a neutral tag on your profile about it.
I also like him but I've never given him any single merit just because I like him.
Besides I don't think it's simply because you like him, more a way to compensate for your stance against him being appointed a merit source.
So if i like a person must I give all the reasons that I like them to justify the merits I give him.
Is liking him not enough words for you.
Do you want a detailed explanation of why I like him why I trust him?
Here is one reason I like him and trust him. He pays the signature participants the correct amount of money due to them.
The internet will always have issues when writing to communicate.
My apologies if saying I like someone was not detailed enough for your standards.
So me giving him merits is my way of saying he does a good job distributing payments to people. He has been honest from all evidence I have seen. He has done this for years.
All qualites of a good campaign manager.
To be honest with you philipma1957, you can say that because you have been on the forum since 2012, you are the human user who has written the most posts etc., otherwise anyone who said that would be severely criticized and I would personally have left a neutral tag on your profile about it.
It's good that we're being honest lately. Here's an honest question of mine: what are the mitigating factors of having a 12-year-old account? If you think this deserves a neutral feedback, then you should do it regardless the reputation of the user, otherwise you're being dishonest to the new users.This recent discussion is the reason I'm in favor of not having strict rules when it comes to the merit system. People should be free to do whatever they want with their merits. If the admin notices suspicious activity from a merit source, they can just take their source role away.
This is very simple
1) I like icopress I gave him merits because I like him.
2) I think no signature manager should have merit source
3) I am a trained accountant and separation of duties is a concept I believe in. This is why I think no signature manager should be a merit source.
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
When it comes to giving merits to someone you like rather than giving merits because of the contents of a post, it is clearly not the correct use of the merit system.1) I like icopress I gave him merits because I like him.
2) I think no signature manager should have merit source
3) I am a trained accountant and separation of duties is a concept I believe in. This is why I think no signature manager should be a merit source.
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
Do I have to tell you that this is wrong?
That's not what the merit system was created for.
To be honest with you philipma1957, you can say that because you have been on the forum since 2012, you are the human user who has written the most posts etc., otherwise anyone who said that would be severely criticized and I would personally have left a neutral tag on your profile about it.
I also like him but I've never given him any single merit just because I like him.
Besides I don't think it's simply because you like him, more a way to compensate for your stance against him being appointed a merit source.
That's not what the merit system was created for.
To be honest with you philipma1957, you can say that because you have been on the forum since 2012, you are the human user who has written the most posts etc., otherwise anyone who said that would be severely criticized and I would personally have left a neutral tag on your profile about it.
I also like him but I've never given him any single merit just because I like him.
Besides I don't think it's simply because you like him, more a way to compensate for your stance against him being appointed a merit source.
If I have understood his point of view correctly, it seems he is not using the merit system in the correct manner. Furthermore, because he believes he is using it in an appropriate way it will be difficult to try to convince him otherwise.
By the way, I have seen merit sources asking theymos for more merits in order to give them out to (what they deem to be) deserving posts and receiving merits from members including mostly other merit sources as a way to help out. If this is what philipma1957 is doing, I think there is no need for him to do that in this case.
1) I like icopress I gave him merits because I like him...
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
Do I have to tell you that this is wrong?
That's not what the merit system was created for.
To be honest with you philipma1957, you can say that because you have been on the forum since 2012, you are the human user who has written the most posts etc., otherwise anyone who said that would be severely criticized and I would personally have left a neutral tag on your profile about it.
I also like him but I've never given him any single merit just because I like him.
Besides I don't think it's simply because you like him, more a way to compensate for your stance against him being appointed a merit source.
Also, if this type of generosity was aimed at just one merit source applicant while the others were not given merits, it is clearly unfair and would raise questions.
I just read through the entire argument and it was kinda like amusing at first... So many things happening and it seems like nothing has happened at all ... Meanwhile, philipma1957 didn't necessarily have to give out merit to Icopress -- especially since he's not made to issue an allocation of any sort... Ehnnn... But he said that he felt like supporting him and that he likes his job... In that case, do you feel uncomfortable or like maybe there's any suspicions in his actions?... I haven't seen you pressing on an issue like this without any valid reason.The question if asked in a general sense, would any merit source applicant be happy to receive merits from those opposing his application because they like work or would they prefer to read a post to indicate they are (or are not) supporting his application?
I didn't get this point... Was philipma previously against icopress' application? Ofcourse they'd prefer to write on this thread whether or not they're in support Again Theymos, could you please validate the few merit sources "to-be" that have applied? I believe you can see this....cus I read something about some merit circle yesterday... That's exactly the kinda world we live in.
Sandra 🧑🦰
This is very simple
1) I like icopress I gave him merits because I like him.
2) I think no signature manager should have merit source
3) I am a trained accountant and separation of duties is a concept I believe in. This is why I think no signature manager should be a merit source.
As an aside I just gave icopress a few merits. to show I still like him.
Again Theymos, could you please validate the few merit sources "to-be" that have applied? I believe you can see this....cus I read something about some merit circle yesterday... That's exactly the kinda world we live in.
At the moment, theymos is not considering anyone for the role of m'sources (I believe this will be the case for at least the next 6 months).Just scrolling back through many pages of your post history (going back over the last few months) anyone can see the majority of your own posts are in the gaming section (usually typical one line glib comments) - do you feel you have enough coverage of the various sections of the forum to be in a position to hand out endless merits to a wide cross section of the forum?
In the gambling section, very little merit is given out (I wonder why) and an active Merit Source in that section could correct the imbalance through their actions.Or just people in your signature campaigns?
This is precisely why it is unacceptable to combine the role of a campaign manager and a Merit Source. 
Just scrolling back through many pages of your post history (going back over the last few months) anyone can see the majority of your own posts are in the gaming section (usually typical one line glib comments) - do you feel you have enough coverage of the various sections of the forum to be in a position to hand out endless merits to a wide cross section of the forum?
Or just people in your signature campaigns?
Or just people in your signature campaigns?
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