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Good point, moving forward and taking actions is the best remedy instead of keep regretting and dwelling with what happened from your previous session, most of the time when you suffer from that kind of defeat you always wanted to recover and instead of enjoying the game you'll end up losing more, the kind of emotions that might lead you into addiction.

You should have that will-power to forget about that previous losses and moving on as it's needed to have a fresh mind when dealing back.

It's more on how you should deal and handle your loss and keep that enjoyment and not that aggression to try and winning back your money.


Gambling for the first time can be interesting especially after winning on the first try. Continuously the player will begin to practice gambling each day and tend to lose more money in the process. Now in a situation where too many losses are being recurred it's quite great for the player to stop gambling, but from his experience it's not an act he could practice easily. It's also hard for a gambler to move on, due to the amount he's lost in the process.

Finding a fresh activity to go into as a gambler is a duty of a friend to the gambler. Deciding on this alone may not be achieved for a player because his thoughts revolves around gambling. In a situation where the gambler doesn't have anybody to help introduce him to a different fun activity, the player can easily walk to a friend and inform him regarding his serious engagement into gambling. Although this decision may be difficult for the player to do as it will hardly occur to him, but it'll help the player to take responsibility and stop his chase for losses
Many dont know gambling addiction has serious implications. Careers, relationships, and lives can be destroyed. Playing can quickly become a desperate struggle for control, causing financial and emotional damage. The good news is hope. Problem recognition is the first step to recovery. Help is available for gambling addicts. There are support groups and expert counseling. Remember, you can always change your life. Im not anti-gambling. When done responsibly, its fun. Setting limits, knowing when to quit, and never gambling more than you can afford to lose are essential.
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Do we keep gambling to win so we can cover up previous losses? or stop and work normally and leave gambling? Or do you have other suggestions?
The reality of things as a human being is supposed to be, don't go above your limit, if you find yourself losing money in what you have no absolute control over. Quitting at the moment and re-strategize ones moves will be all good since the person find themselves to be unlucky in the things they thought would be beneficial to.

This is the realest answer I could see. Because if you are losing, then it's the best time to derisk. get off some or half of your original risk because you are not lucky from that day. Since it would take you more time, it will require you patience and the discipline to wait and not just take gambling again randomly and bet a lot wiihtout any analysis for conviction. it's better to get back your money but in a longer time than losing more money faster.
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No matter our past experience in life, we need to accept it and move on with our lives no matter the great loss that gamble has done to us. If a gambler cannot let go of his losses after losing, it shows that he is not a matured gambler and it will affect him a lot, in the sense that he will end up in poverty and frustration. However, if a gambler can ignore his losses and move on with life, he will learn from his mistakes and use that as a reference in order for him not to make wrong decisions in life again.

This is because he was able to know how backward his gambling losses have kept him, and he will want to cover for all those days when he was busy chasing his losses due to addiction. If that gambler wants to continue gambling, it means that he must work on himself to enable him gamble in a way that he will not be addicted and will also be able to control his losses. Otherwise, he needs not to gamble anymore to avoid falling into the trap of addiction the second time.

Well said mate, holding back your gambling loses will only keep you in a circumference of regrets and wanting to get back all of your loss which will only make the gambler to experience more loss because the house is always in the wining side. No Matter how much win a gambler makes the house will definitely be on good profit than we the gamblers. However a gambler should not gamble with what they can't afford to loose in the first place so if they encounter any loss it should be within their range of tolerance, and that shouldn't cause any panic or urge to get back reinforced to chase after their losses.
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what should we do if we have lost a lot of money on gambling?

Do we keep gambling to win so we can cover up previous losses? or stop and work normally and leave gambling? Or do you have other suggestions?
The reality of things as a human being is supposed to be, don't go above your limit, if you find yourself losing money in what you have no absolute control over. Quitting at the moment and re-strategize ones moves will be all good since the person find themselves to be unlucky in the things they thought would be beneficial to.

Gambling in question is never a do-or-die affair one must make sure they get all their gambling losses back before they think of quitting gambling for the day or week. I see nothing bad for one to decide on "quitting gambling" since there is no title to be given to one who refuses to quit gambling despite their losses in gambling.
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Yes, I think it is very normal for them to experience a downturn over their gambling because after all gambling is not a place to earn money but is nothing more than a place to fill your free time when you are bored without placing excessive hopes on winning. This means that it doesn't make sense and will never work if you put a profitable idea in a place that doesn't have any certainty that it will always produce results and also, in addition, gambling has risks that can happen at any time, and it is a fact as I said before that the idea produces in gambling it will only trigger various bad possibilities to occur, where the scenario is when you are unable to accept the fact of defeat and this situation can trigger various impulsive decisions that should be avoided. Therefore, I think there have been many people who have advised us to remain careful and limit the various actions we take, such as limiting the budget and also the time involved or a gambler is always advised to know when is the right time to row and when It's the right thing to step aside, and also understand that the chances of winning in gambling will not always happen according to what you want.
In gambling, of course it is wrong if they hope to win because it is not certain that winning in gambling will happen, even if they gamble with a high or low bet amount, it will not affect them because winning at gambling is based on luck which will be on their side. What you say is correct, however, gambling is not a way to make money, it is just a game that can be played in your spare time and is limited to just entertainment. if they gamble frequently, of course what will happen more often is losing, and losing is a clear risk that will occur in gambling and cannot even be avoided.
When they cannot accept defeat, of course they will experience greater risks, which of course will make them suffer more because of defeat and lose more money. with gambling that has ended in defeat, they should be able to realize that gambling is only making them lose money and if they do it too much, they should know that they can lose more money.

Yup, there is absolutely no certainty and no guarantee that you will be able to win at the end of the session, you will never know what will happen at the end of the session between winning or losing and you will only know it when you have completed the session, and that supports the fact that this is what is called gambling which is a probability activity that cannot be certain or unknown about the results that will occur at the end of the session. Therefore, I think what I've stated before is the fact that it doesn't make sense to put your earning intentions and goals in a place that is always random and always unknowable about the results that will occur at the end of the session.

Logically if the idea makes sense to be applied in gambling then surely many gamblers have become rich, but the fact is that it is not like that where instead of earning but they actually suffer a number of losses that are even in significant amounts, and actually putting the idea of earning in gambling will only develop various behaviors and impulsive decisions that are difficult to account for or control such as not being able to accept defeat which ultimately makes them gamble with the intention and purpose of chasing losses which is an action that is always prohibited in gambling.
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This venue is too risky even you treat it as source of entertainment as the chance that you may fall into addiction if you don't limit yourself, most of the time, it's start with a simple enjoyment and eventually you'll find yourself getting deeply engage and unable to control your emotions.

The more you play the longer you stay and the chance of losing a lot, there's always a proper way of treating your gambling activities just be open and accept the fact that if you don't  control yourself then you'll regret after.
If we can treat gambling as an entertainment and not expecting anything from gambling, we will be okay and enjoy playing gambling. But because of gamblers see many temptation from gambling makes them gets deeper in gambling and not remember how much money they already lost. They will falls from gambling without they notice and knows how to prevents it because they gets deeper in gambling and not see the reality that they gets from gambling. They also lose their control their emotions and becomes seriously playing gambling but that will makes them lose much money.

If they can't realizes what happens to them, that will be a matter of time for them to lose all of their money and they will not be able to stops themselves from gambling. That makes them keeps playing gambling gambling and even if their money is gone, they will search for people who can lend them some money to keeps playing gambling.
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Good point, moving forward and taking actions is the best remedy instead of keep regretting and dwelling with what happened from your previous session, most of the time when you suffer from that kind of defeat you always wanted to recover and instead of enjoying the game you'll end up losing more, the kind of emotions that might lead you into addiction.

You should have that will-power to forget about that previous losses and moving on as it's needed to have a fresh mind when dealing back.

It's more on how you should deal and handle your loss and keep that enjoyment and not that aggression to try and winning back your money.


Gambling for the first time can be interesting especially after winning on the first try. Continuously the player will begin to practice gambling each day and tend to lose more money in the process. Now in a situation where too many losses are being recurred it's quite great for the player to stop gambling, but from his experience it's not an act he could practice easily. It's also hard for a gambler to move on, due to the amount he's lost in the process.

Finding a fresh activity to go into as a gambler is a duty of a friend to the gambler. Deciding on this alone may not be achieved for a player because his thoughts revolves around gambling. In a situation where the gambler doesn't have anybody to help introduce him to a different fun activity, the player can easily walk to a friend and inform him regarding his serious engagement into gambling. Although this decision may be difficult for the player to do as it will hardly occur to him, but it'll help the player to take responsibility and stop his chase for losses
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I think for sure many people here gave advice that the most important thing we can do is not continue to play and not try to return what we gave to the casino and this is the best advice. Then we need to act consistently and the next stage will be that we need to find new hobbies in life in order to escape from gambling and find ourselves in something new. Of course, it will be difficult for many to do this, but it was very easy for me and I found additional income in areas that interest me. If the player cannot find this, then it makes sense to simply find something that we have always been interested in, but we could not try. Life itself gives us this chance for new discoveries. Sitting and being sad about the fact that we lost money or our entire deposit and doing nothing is the worst thing because in this way we will only go into a long depression and nothing more. I suggest everyone start taking action and be active, and not stop after losses.

Good point, moving forward and taking actions is the best remedy instead of keep regretting and dwelling with what happened from your previous session, most of the time when you suffer from that kind of defeat you always wanted to recover and instead of enjoying the game you'll end up losing more, the kind of emotions that might lead you into addiction.

You should have that will-power to forget about that previous losses and moving on as it's needed to have a fresh mind when dealing back.

It's more on how you sholud deal and handle your loss and keep that enjoyment and not that aggression to try and winning back your money.

No matter our past experience in life, we need to accept it and move on with our lives no matter the great loss that gamble has done to us. If a gambler cannot let go of his losses after losing, it shows that he is not a matured gambler and it will affect him a lot, in the sense that he will end up in poverty and frustration. However, if a gambler can ignore his losses and move on with life, he will learn from his mistakes and use that as a reference in order for him not to make wrong decisions in life again.

This is because he was able to know how backward his gambling losses have kept him, and he will want to cover for all those days when he was busy chasing his losses due to addiction. If that gambler wants to continue gambling, it means that he must work on himself to enable him gamble in a way that he will not be addicted and will also be able to control his losses. Otherwise, he needs not to gamble anymore to avoid falling into the trap of addiction the second time.
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I think for sure many people here gave advice that the most important thing we can do is not continue to play and not try to return what we gave to the casino and this is the best advice. Then we need to act consistently and the next stage will be that we need to find new hobbies in life in order to escape from gambling and find ourselves in something new. Of course, it will be difficult for many to do this, but it was very easy for me and I found additional income in areas that interest me. If the player cannot find this, then it makes sense to simply find something that we have always been interested in, but we could not try. Life itself gives us this chance for new discoveries. Sitting and being sad about the fact that we lost money or our entire deposit and doing nothing is the worst thing because in this way we will only go into a long depression and nothing more. I suggest everyone start taking action and be active, and not stop after losses.

Good point, moving forward and taking actions is the best remedy instead of keep regretting and dwelling with what happened from your previous session, most of the time when you suffer from that kind of defeat you always wanted to recover and instead of enjoying the game you'll end up losing more, the kind of emotions that might lead you into addiction.

You should have that will-power to forget about that previous losses and moving on as it's needed to have a fresh mind when dealing back.

It's more on how you sholud deal and handle your loss and keep that enjoyment and not that aggression to try and winning back your money.
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Maybe it would be clearer if he gambled more often. because it is true that gambling will most likely only make them experience defeat. It is true that there is a chance of winning, but the chance of winning is below the chance of losing, so defeat will occur more often with the gambling that is done. with those who gamble and can't stop gambling when they lose, perhaps because they think they can get a win after experiencing a losing streak even though obviously there are no guarantees.

Indeed, everyone should be able to understand gambling, not just the procedures. but they must understand what gambling is. If they can understand gambling well in the sense that they think that gambling is just a means of entertainment, nothing more than that, maybe they won't gamble excessively.
Those who gamble too often will of course spend a lot of money gambling, because it is very unlikely that we can win gambling often and what we experience is of course losing the bets we place and if we win only a few times we choose to continue gambling. After experiencing defeat, of course this is very detrimental because it is unlikely that they will win after experiencing defeat and it would be better if we could stop after experiencing defeat.

For some people who consider gambling as entertainment, of course they will be able to set their limits in gambling and also limit the activities they do in gambling so that they don't spend a lot of the money they use for gambling and of course this will not make them addicted to gambling.
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Gambling is a place to spend money, although many gamblers consider casinos to be a place to earn money. But in reality, more gamblers lose their money at casinos or gambling sites. So I think all of us here probably have almost the same experience, namely losing a lot of money gambling

I also lost money because I lost on gambling, but maybe not that much. But I know there are people who spend a lot of money for gambling. In your opinion, what should we do if we have lost a lot of money on gambling? Do we keep gambling to win so we can cover up previous losses? or stop and work normally and leave gambling? Or do you have other suggestions?
I think for sure many people here gave advice that the most important thing we can do is not continue to play and not try to return what we gave to the casino and this is the best advice. Then we need to act consistently and the next stage will be that we need to find new hobbies in life in order to escape from gambling and find ourselves in something new. Of course, it will be difficult for many to do this, but it was very easy for me and I found additional income in areas that interest me. If the player cannot find this, then it makes sense to simply find something that we have always been interested in, but we could not try. Life itself gives us this chance for new discoveries. Sitting and being sad about the fact that we lost money or our entire deposit and doing nothing is the worst thing because in this way we will only go into a long depression and nothing more. I suggest everyone start taking action and be active, and not stop after losses.
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This thread needs to be closed, I don't even know if there's anything that's not yet discussed that's in this thread, pretty sure that what you can do when you're losing in gambling is not a lot of things, it will complicate your life and at the same time, you might not even arrived at a conclusion. Here's a simple thing that you can do when you're losing in gambling, stop worrying about it and move on, do the logical thing which is quitting while you still have some funds that you can spend on other things and while you still have some self-respect in you.

Yeah, the worst thing you can do is continue putting more and more money into it and end up with less and less money.

It takes self control to stop, but it is clearly the best way to move forward.
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This thread needs to be closed, I don't even know if there's anything that's not yet discussed that's in this thread, pretty sure that what you can do when you're losing in gambling is not a lot of things, it will complicate your life and at the same time, you might not even arrived at a conclusion. Here's a simple thing that you can do when you're losing in gambling, stop worrying about it and move on, do the logical thing which is quitting while you still have some funds that you can spend on other things and while you still have some self-respect in you.
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You just need to think more broadly and not limit yourself to gambling. I feel sorry for those who have only one such hobby, because life is interesting and you need to try yourself in other areas. I'm sure many gamblers have excellent potential to realize themselves, but they don't yet know where exactly. They need to make an effort and find themselves, otherwise no one will do it for them.
No, we must limits ourselves in gambling, especially for people who wants to use gambling as hobby. They don't knows that can gives risks for them if they treat gambling as a hobby. Playing gambling needs money and not all of the time we can manage our self control when playing gambling because we are weak with the temptation. There will be a time for us to lose ourselves controls and that can be the reason why we playing gambling longer than usual. If we use gambling as a hobby, that means we needs more money to fills our wants to playing gambling and we must thinks about the risks of losing the money in gambling. We can lose more and more money in gambling even we don't realizes that we already lose that much money. Before it's late to realizes, we must limits ourselves playing gambling so we must do prevention that will helps us to stay away from problem.

This venue is too risky even you treat it as source of entertainment as the chance that you may fall into addiction if you don't limit yourself, most of the time, it's start with a simple enjoyment and eventually you'll find yourself getting deeply engage and unable to control your emotions.

The more you play the longer you stay and the chance of losing a lot, there's always a proper way of treating your gambling activities just be open and accept the fact that if you don't  control yourself then you'll regret after.


When you strategize yourself very well in gambling I don't think that you will be participating in gambling almost every time because the more you are participating in gambling most often do you have the chance of losing and also have the chance of winning this is what is involved for someone who take gambling as one of the major things so I know quite well, that gambling is something that has to do with things of risk and if you don't take normal dimensions to partake in gambling I think you will end up of having a continuous losing in gambling, I think basically you have to understand the procedures of gambling.
Gambling has no limits. The more you gamble the more you lose although there is also a chance of winning. We can say from a simple assumption that the more gambling addicts, he will also loss more. And if a gambler can bear his loss then he can continue his gambling and if he does not have that ability then he has to lose. The gambler can decide for himself what he will do. I think a gambler needs to take a break from gambling when he loses. This will remove the gambler's bias and will be able to manage the gambling in a better way.
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Yes, I think it is very normal for them to experience a downturn over their gambling because after all gambling is not a place to earn money but is nothing more than a place to fill your free time when you are bored without placing excessive hopes on winning. This means that it doesn't make sense and will never work if you put a profitable idea in a place that doesn't have any certainty that it will always produce results and also, in addition, gambling has risks that can happen at any time, and it is a fact as I said before that the idea produces in gambling it will only trigger various bad possibilities to occur, where the scenario is when you are unable to accept the fact of defeat and this situation can trigger various impulsive decisions that should be avoided. Therefore, I think there have been many people who have advised us to remain careful and limit the various actions we take, such as limiting the budget and also the time involved or a gambler is always advised to know when is the right time to row and when It's the right thing to step aside, and also understand that the chances of winning in gambling will not always happen according to what you want.
In gambling, of course it is wrong if they hope to win because it is not certain that winning in gambling will happen, even if they gamble with a high or low bet amount, it will not affect them because winning at gambling is based on luck which will be on their side. What you say is correct, however, gambling is not a way to make money, it is just a game that can be played in your spare time and is limited to just entertainment. if they gamble frequently, of course what will happen more often is losing, and losing is a clear risk that will occur in gambling and cannot even be avoided.
When they cannot accept defeat, of course they will experience greater risks, which of course will make them suffer more because of defeat and lose more money. with gambling that has ended in defeat, they should be able to realize that gambling is only making them lose money and if they do it too much, they should know that they can lose more money.
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Usually they will use certain strategies such as martingale to get back some of the money they lost because with each bet the amount will be increased for greater returns.


Well, I am a person who has always been playing in casinos and sometimes it is necessary to make 1 martingale, however it has very devastating consequences when you lose, that is why both in the casino and in trading I only make 1 martingale, sometimes in trading By doing 2 martingales I was doing very poorly and I was decapitalized, that is something that has to be seen, that is why when talking about the martingale I do not recommend it at all, it is something that can be very significant when winning, but you only have to measure the possible losses .

Martingale is the most common strategy that we are using specially when playing with dice or even with crash games or generally on some casino games on which this is something a strategy that had been long time known that doesnt really give out guarantees on being profitable. So it would really be something that just normal that we should really be not taking it that too serious or trying out to push for it to be effective because it doesnt really work on that way. Losing in gambling is inevitable since luck is the main thing that you would really be needing to win up games.

On the moment that you are losing and seeing your bankroll for that day has already depleted out then it would really be just that right that you should really be stopping and calling it a day.
The main issue for most people is that they dont really care about on their condition, on the moment the had lost then they would be continuing to deposit even more.
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Usually they will use certain strategies such as martingale to get back some of the money they lost because with each bet the amount will be increased for greater returns.


Well, I am a person who has always been playing in casinos and sometimes it is necessary to make 1 martingale, however it has very devastating consequences when you lose, that is why both in the casino and in trading I only make 1 martingale, sometimes in trading By doing 2 martingales I was doing very poorly and I was decapitalized, that is something that has to be seen, that is why when talking about the martingale I do not recommend it at all, it is something that can be very significant when winning, but you only have to measure the possible losses .

Absolutely right and well spoken, martingale in gambling is like using high leverage when trading the futures market, it is definitely one the fastest way to make unimaginable amount of money in that shortest time possible, but on the other hand, it is also one of the fastest ways to losing significant amount of money in the shortest time possible also.

I also have always advised against the use of martingale when gambling because if luck is not on one's side, the player may find reasons to want to accuse the casino for cheating them in the game, because imagine you've won by 2 streaks, and you assume luck is now with you, and you believe you will win the third game in a row too, you increase your bet amount to the highest so as to maybe; more than triple your money, and just then, you lose, everything gone, that is, one minute, you were winning, and in a second, it's all gone, it usually feels unreal to most gamblers, but this is one of the bad sides of using martingale in gambling.
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The more you play the longer you stay and the chance of losing a lot, there's always a proper way of treating your gambling activities just be open and accept the fact that if you don't  control yourself then you'll regret after.
Most gamblers cannot divert themselves to other hobbies even though every gambler has the choice to stop playing and try another hobby to entertain themselves, why are people who lose at gambling always confused about what to do? The thing on their mind is to catch up and recover their losses. Obviously that won't work because it's impossible to get all the money you've lost from gambling, even if you win and are lucky, not all the money you've lost will come back, you win with your own money that you've lost before, maybe even just 10% of the money. you are missing.

Gambling doesn't have to play for a long time in gambling, understand and play what you have to play, for me personally I look for fun and enjoy the adrenaline more, not that I don't want to win, but I know that making money is not my main goal, because having fun is my main goal, so I never think and hope more to win big so that my mindset is diverted so as not to be obsessed with winning, gambling requires knowing when we should gamble and when we should stop gambling, that is important to understand so that we can control ourselves properly.
The reason why most gamblers find it very difficult to switch to other hobbies after losing games is because of the pain of losing their hard earned money and instead of switching to other hobbies, they most times prefer to continue with their gambling engagements in other to win back their lost money but the sad reality is that in most of the times gamblers play gamble because they're trying to chase their losses, they do end up losing morale money.
Whenever a gambler is gambling and losses his money, the best thing to do at that moment is to quit gambling for some time and and try engage in other things that aren't gambling related so that you can fully recover from the mental pains of losing. That way, you can gamble with a new and positive mindset and not to try get back losses.
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From the many cases of downturns experienced by many gamblers, I think it is clear that the only reason that makes sense is to conclude that they come and get involved in gambling with the intention and purpose of earning, because as we know that gambling has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee to always be able to earn which when someone comes with such a goal then obviously the opposite happens where they actually experience downturns such as losing large amounts of money or other impacts, And yes you have also said the right thing that someone who comes with the aim of earning then surely when the results at the end of the session lose then they will not be able to tolerate such conditions which in the end act to pursue losses which actually even worsen the situation.

As I said earlier that there will most likely be no enjoyment in a gambling session but rather the session will be full of tension due to worries, and as you said that a gambler should understand that when they engage in gambling that they are bound to lose in one of their sessions, and this is also the reason why a responsible mentality is always recommended.
It's true, with the majority of people of course they gamble with the aim of making money, therefore it's not surprising that many experience big losses because of gambling. with those who can't control themselves, of course when they lose they can gamble again because they can't accept the reality of the defeat that has occurred, but if they gamble again, after losing they won't be able to recover or return the money they have lost. because it's true what you said, there is no guarantee that you will win, with the actions of those who chase losses, of course they only make the situation worse, not improve the situation, even though there is a chance to win, the chance to lose still dominates.
Yes, they should be able to take responsibility for the actions they take, with the gambling they do, they must be able to see that gambling is not a means of making money, so when the gambling they do ends in defeat, the action they have to take is to stop and leave gambling. rest your mind, because if you gamble again, the result will most likely be the same, namely losing or losing money again and that can affect your mentality and emotions which will of course lead to bad actions.

Yes, I think it is very normal for them to experience a downturn over their gambling because after all gambling is not a place to earn money but is nothing more than a place to fill your free time when you are bored without placing excessive hopes on winning. This means that it doesn't make sense and will never work if you put a profitable idea in a place that doesn't have any certainty that it will always produce results and also, in addition, gambling has risks that can happen at any time, and it is a fact as I said before that the idea produces in gambling it will only trigger various bad possibilities to occur, where the scenario is when you are unable to accept the fact of defeat and this situation can trigger various impulsive decisions that should be avoided. Therefore, I think there have been many people who have advised us to remain careful and limit the various actions we take, such as limiting the budget and also the time involved or a gambler is always advised to know when is the right time to row and when It's the right thing to step aside, and also understand that the chances of winning in gambling will not always happen according to what you want.
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Usually they will use certain strategies such as martingale to get back some of the money they lost because with each bet the amount will be increased for greater returns.


Well, I am a person who has always been playing in casinos and sometimes it is necessary to make 1 martingale, however it has very devastating consequences when you lose, that is why both in the casino and in trading I only make 1 martingale, sometimes in trading By doing 2 martingales I was doing very poorly and I was decapitalized, that is something that has to be seen, that is why when talking about the martingale I do not recommend it at all, it is something that can be very significant when winning, but you only have to measure the possible losses .
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