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February 27, 2016, 03:19:31 AM
#36
Where do you come from, OP? This information becomes important when you say that "even your geeky friends don't know about bitcoin", because if you come from China or the States, for example, I'd be really surprised it it were true.
Although you may have a point, but I sort of disagree with you since by "pioneer" we should mean those who first used/discover it and now how much they own. I've been on BTCitcoin since the last months of 2011 and still don't consider myself on the so called group of BTCitcoin pioneers.
It all depends on the definition and the length of time. People getting into bitcoin now will hardly ever be considered pioneers, whatsoever, especially because 1 BTC right now is still a ridiculously low amount when you compare it with some other people. But you, who started in late 2011, were probably still part of the first 0.01% to ever use bitcoin. That's very pioneerish to me. Maybe not now because still less than 1% of the total world's population use bitcoin, but if we get to 10% in the future, you will likely be considered a pioneer. Now it all comes down to the definition you give to the word pioneer. Did you absolutely have to mine in early 2009 to be a pioneer, or can you also be one if you were able to buy BTC for less than a dollar in 2010? All this is related to the number of final users at said time. The more they are, the broader the definition.
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February 27, 2016, 12:05:11 AM
#35
I think that's probably true since there will only be 21 million in existence and really fewer that will be accessible due to lost coins.  There's not enough to go around for many people to have one.
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February 26, 2016, 11:58:45 PM
#34
OMG!! I'm part of the elite. That makes me so happy. I never knew owning 10 Bitcoin makes me part of this epic group.
tss
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February 26, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
#33
no investment is a sure thing.  the risk in bitcoin is much less today than it was just a few years ago.  it took great effort, knowledge, skill and foresight just to be mining bitcoin years ago. those that did, hold far more than 1btc now.  and yet a lot of it was squandered, lost to exchange scams, development, learning and mining equipment pre-orders all in an effort to expand the bitcoin reach. 

NO YOU ARE NOT THE NEW ELITE WITH 1 BTC.  no you will not be rich.  yes there is a "possibility" that btc will grow faster than the nasdaq but we are still in the development stage.  100 years from today your 1 btc may hold large fiat value but you will not be around. 

there is still a large uncertainty with btc holdings.  you may get 2x or 100x your money or you may lose it all if subversive technology like classic gain dominance or full on bans from finance industry come forward or "they" decide to change the original aspects of btc like max cap or fees. 

in the long run there is no get rich quick.  your $400 investment today will NOT be worth 10k anytime soon.  btc is here to stay but the market will decide its value.  when a new product hits the consumer market sometimes there is a very huge expense cost in educating the general public on the benefits of the product.  bitcoin is not a company and does not invest in educating the consumer so unless any major financial collapse of major world governments bitcoin can only grow at a relatively steady pace.
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February 26, 2016, 10:39:17 PM
#32
10 bitcoin is not that much. It's not like you can buy a jet or something.
There a lots of people having lots of money in different forms.
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February 26, 2016, 10:38:54 PM
#31
Well i only have 2.** bitcoins, is it called pioneer too ? and my hope is can hold 10++ bitcoins so can make me into elite people lol.

nice holding, i sell all of bitcoin (arround 1.9btc) in last month i used to building computer, now i have only 0.15 my target 10++bitcoin too like you Smiley
 
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February 26, 2016, 10:36:16 PM
#30
Well i only have 2.** bitcoins, is it called pioneer too ? and my hope is can hold 10++ bitcoins so can make me into elite people lol.
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February 26, 2016, 10:07:07 PM
#29
Hopefully I can reach  1 btc and be a pioneer Smiley

in my opinion 1bitcoin not enough to be pioner, we need more than it, maybe 100bitcoin is the minimum to be pioner in bitcoin life....
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February 26, 2016, 09:53:38 PM
#28
I personally do not agree with you. I feel that as long as we are here actively discussing about Bitcoin, we can consider ourselves early adopters or in your word, pioneer. We helped to shape to early Bitcoin community.
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 09:52:34 PM
#27
I previously own 7 btc back when it was just $250 i lost most of it on gambling and I've also bought few office equipment. I was expecting it will go up faster and so i haven't waited that long that i regret cashing it out and gambling without strategy.
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February 26, 2016, 09:47:38 PM
#26
I like to compare OP to this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-am-pretty-confident-we-are-the-new-wealthy-elite-gentlemen-12156

 Cool I like it, I'm working on my way to 1 BTC right now.
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February 26, 2016, 09:42:03 PM
#25
I agree, 10 bitcoins is actually a lot.  And I had one tenth of that recently and like an idiot got scammed out of a good third of it.  I tell ya, I should have known better.  Alas, I'll get it back.

Don't know about being a pioneer though.  The early miners are the real pioneers, and that guy who bought the pizza for 10K btc.
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February 26, 2016, 09:38:23 PM
#24
Sure, but Gold is not a common payment option Smiley Or have you ever been gone to a store and bought food with gold? I don't think so. This is why I think he meant that this is a big problem for Bitcoin. Gold is a commodity to secure value. So is Bitcoin, too.

I.think that the biggest problem with Bitcoin is that its' amount is limited. That would probably be also the biggest obstacle for more massive use.

No.. that is the biggest feature.... It is the near perfect gold...

Bitcoin will become a store of value not a widely used item for purchasing, IMO of coarse.


And THAT comment (blue highlighting mine), spazzdla, is the main reason I HODL Bitcoin.  I have bought, mixed and spent (only on gold) quite a few BTC to become familiar with its easy use, but the bulk of BTC I have now I want to hold for a possible YUGE gain.

A Lotto ticket...

Pioneers?  Let's see:

-- 4% of wallets hold over BTC1.00.  OK, let's stipulate ("MSU" here) that 5% of BTC hodlers actually own over 1.00
-- maximum of 1% of people in Europe, Japan and the USA hold ANY BTC  then:

0.05 * 0.01 = 0.0005 fraction of people own BTC1 or more.  Five hundredths of one percent (in easy-access Internet countries).

In my book, we're pioneers!


EDIT: corrected math error

Even if bitcoin doesn't go anywhere, those who have 1 BTC can call it a "souvenir" for future usage. A sort of memoir for their cryptocurrency days. Though those with physical coins, like Casascius coins, can REALLY show it off to people. I don't think that having a bitcoin is that large of an investment, and I'm pretty sure that there isn't that much of a financial drawback if you do choose to invest in it.

Again, if it doesn't pan out well, then I guess you just have it as a souvenir. An expensive souvenir. But, a relic of the beginning of the blockchain technology. Hopefully THAT carries through if Bitcoin doesn't.
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February 26, 2016, 08:36:07 PM
#23
I currently sit at around at a few BTC, and i absolutly believe that this technology cannot fail.  i dont say that as a fanatic who is blind to the problems, i say that as a person who has been taken advantage off by the banks and corrupt governments in this age.  We must take this opertunity to take back control 1st of or finances and then our governments.....  Grin  even if bitcoin is shot down because of a bug (and basiclaly that is the only thing that can stop it at this point) we fix the bug and start again the next day from point zero......... YES
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 08:22:07 PM
#22
Sure, but Gold is not a common payment option Smiley Or have you ever been gone to a store and bought food with gold? I don't think so. This is why I think he meant that this is a big problem for Bitcoin. Gold is a commodity to secure value. So is Bitcoin, too.

I.think that the biggest problem with Bitcoin is that its' amount is limited. That would probably be also the biggest obstacle for more massive use.

No.. that is the biggest feature.... It is the near perfect gold...

Bitcoin will become a store of value not a widely used item for purchasing, IMO of coarse.


And THAT comment (blue highlighting mine), spazzdla, is the main reason I HODL Bitcoin.  I have bought, mixed and spent (only on gold) quite a few BTC to become familiar with its easy use, but the bulk of BTC I have now I want to hold for a possible YUGE gain.

A Lotto ticket...

Pioneers?  Let's see:

-- 4% of wallets hold over BTC1.00.  OK, let's stipulate ("MSU" here) that 5% of BTC hodlers actually own over 1.00
-- maximum of 1% of people in Europe, Japan and the USA hold ANY BTC  then:

0.05 * 0.01 = 0.0005 fraction of people own BTC1 or more.  Five hundredths of one percent (in easy-access Internet countries).

In my book, we're pioneers!


EDIT: corrected math error
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February 26, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
#21
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

According to that site, only a little more than 4% of wallets contain 1 or more bitcoin in them.. thats not to say there arent people with more than one wallet with less than a whole coin but add up to one whole coin or more..

P.S had to flip my tablet to the side to see percentages..

I have not seen this chart before.  Very crazy that only 4% have more than one.  I am so hard on myself for not having more and I guess I have enough.
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February 26, 2016, 08:05:14 PM
#20
Hopefully I can reach  1 btc and be a pioneer Smiley
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February 26, 2016, 07:49:27 PM
#19
If you hold 10 or more you are part of an elite.

This is my conclusion after the years I have been involved here. Absolutely no one in real life knows what the hell Bitcoin is, and even your most geeky friends may probably never heard about Bitcoin. Now if you take into account the people that has heard about it... what percentage own 1 BTC? Exactly.. you know almost no one.
And what percentage own 10 BTC? I personally know no one (people from this forum don't count obviously).

This simple observation shows you only need 1 BTC to be a pioneer on Bitcoin in 2016.

The quote exactly represents the reality of most users in this forum as well out who just try to earn as well buy bitcois for future as well trading.
As said only a very few users will be holding 10Bitcoins to be a part in the elite group.
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February 26, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
#18
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

According to that site, only a little more than 4% of wallets contain 1 or more bitcoin in them.. thats not to say there arent people with more than one wallet with less than a whole coin but add up to one whole coin or more..

P.S had to flip my tablet to the side to see percentages..
legendary
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February 26, 2016, 07:14:55 PM
#17
Well, it looks like I'm not a pioneer, just an average adventurer.

I've probably owned over 1 BTC in my time here, but never all at one point. Maybe I'll finally start HODLing after the recent increase.
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