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Quote from: komisariatku on July 21, 2023, 01:25:14 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

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I've never heard a term like this. I think this term is misleading when compared to the term in my country. In my country the term popular is the opposite of your country's term. "The biggest win in gambling is when you stop gambling." Very contradictory with the terms in your country

But I think it doesn't matter, in different countries there can be differences in thinking and culture. In my country gambling is still something illegal so most people give advice to stop gambling, apart from spending money gambling is illegal and can cause a person to face the law.

But whatever the difference, as long as we can control our finances and can be responsible in gambling, maybe it's not a serious problem.

To be honest I don't really know the term gambling like the OP said, even like you said. and, I rarely hear quotes about gambling. The point is, I don't really care. however there is something interesting, what the OP quoted, is contradictory like what you quoted too. yep, like you said. These two quotes have opposite meanings. but actually, it all comes back to each of us how we interpret it. even, if our thoughts are positive. the quote the OP said we can interpret as sarcasm. yep, so that we don't get carried away with excessive habit patterns. also, the quote you said that gets straight to the point.

But whatever it is, a quote is just a quote. after all, not everyone or gamblers will care about these quotes. and for the last point, we agree. as long as we are able to control our finances, and involve responsibility in gambling, everything is fine. as long as, this hobby does not harm other parties, even the closest family.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on July 21, 2023, 12:35:25 PM

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There's a popular remark among gamblers in the part of my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose". They use this statement to encourage and give futuristic hope to themselves that no matter how much they loss today or how many wagers they have lost they don't need to quit as it's possible you may be the next jackpot winner tomorrow. For it's like say don't quit yet there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.
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In my country there is an expression: "he who does not risk does not drink champagne". We drink champagne on special occasions or holidays or when we want to celebrate something special. The gambler who risked and won can also celebrate his winnings by drinking a glass of champagne. After all, to win a lot of money is a big event. But it happens very rarely. The gambler who lost is likely to drink strong alcohol from his grief, but he dreams that sooner or later he will drink champagne.

This expression does not encourage gamblers to stop and think, rather it pushes them to take risks.

Seeing this I think am some how encourage not to give up on my gambling activities but the question that has always run through my mind is this, how I wish I will be able to know when my winnings will come so that I can make proper arrangements for the celebration because I have taken strong alcoholic drinks to calm my nerves down when ever I encountered losses in gambling so during my days of good wins I wish to have enough expensive wins to celebrate the big win. Champagne is not going to be the only drink that will be made available when I win big rather I will get so many things done that day especially things that will help me get rid of all the emotional stress I have been through since losing funds in gambling. The rule has always been never give up I believe one day a gambler will smile.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

Now let's take this to a discuss; how correct is this statement? And is there any similar statement like that in your home-country that's popularly used among gamblers to encourage themselves from quiting gambling because they're losing?
Or would you allow your decision to quit gambling to be affected by any popular statement among your fellow gamblers or it's a no no thing for you?

I've never heard a term like this. I think this term is misleading when compared to the term in my country. In my country the term popular is the opposite of your country's term. "The biggest win in gambling is when you stop gambling." Very contradictory with the terms in your country

But I think it doesn't matter, in different countries there can be differences in thinking and culture. In my country gambling is still something illegal so most people give advice to stop gambling, apart from spending money gambling is illegal and can cause a person to face the law.

But whatever the difference, as long as we can control our finances and can be responsible in gambling, maybe it's not a serious problem.

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Quote from: Unsoldier on July 21, 2023, 12:35:25 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

There's a popular remark among gamblers in the part of my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose". They use this statement to encourage and give futuristic hope to themselves that no matter how much they loss today or how many wagers they have lost they don't need to quit as it's possible you may be the next jackpot winner tomorrow. For it's like say don't quit yet there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.
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In my country there is an expression: "he who does not risk does not drink champagne". We drink champagne on special occasions or holidays or when we want to celebrate something special. The gambler who risked and won can also celebrate his winnings by drinking a glass of champagne. After all, to win a lot of money is a big event. But it happens very rarely. The gambler who lost is likely to drink strong alcohol from his grief, but he dreams that sooner or later he will drink champagne.

This expression does not encourage gamblers to stop and think, rather it pushes them to take risks.

This is a big surprise and I tend to learn everyday. Risk is one of the important expect when we gamble and if we can regulate it, we are not going to have problem as a gambler. I have taken a lot of risks as a gambler and sometimes, I tend to make winnings and sometimes I lost which does not mean that taking risk as a gambler will make us a winner. There are some types of risks that can make us fortunate and make money and while the other risks we take might lead to a bigger problem for us which can make us even lose big as a gambler.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

There's a popular remark among gamblers in the part of my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose". They use this statement to encourage and give futuristic hope to themselves that no matter how much they loss today or how many wagers they have lost they don't need to quit as it's possible you may be the next jackpot winner tomorrow. For it's like say don't quit yet there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.
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In my country there is an expression: "he who does not risk does not drink champagne". We drink champagne on special occasions or holidays or when we want to celebrate something special. The gambler who risked and won can also celebrate his winnings by drinking a glass of champagne. After all, to win a lot of money is a big event. But it happens very rarely. The gambler who lost is likely to drink strong alcohol from his grief, but he dreams that sooner or later he will drink champagne.

This expression does not encourage gamblers to stop and think, rather it pushes them to take risks.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

From what I observed from this statement is that, many of these gamblers have been misled by this very remark of a hypothetical hope which has liquidated their account. While some who would have quit gambling long ago still hedge their hope on the idea behind the statement and keeps wagering.

Now let's take this to a discuss; how correct is this statement? And is there any similar statement like that in your home-country that's popularly used among gamblers to encourage themselves from quiting gambling because they're losing?
Or would you allow your decision to quit gambling to be affected by any popular statement among your fellow gamblers or it's a no no thing for you?

So I misunderstood it. I thought we should continue as long as we still have some money in our balances inside our gambling accounts. And I think many won't agree with this one. Anyways, on the real meaning of the quote, I agree on it. We can also apply it on other areas in life and not just in gambling that we must not give up easily.

Quitting won't let you grow. I think that even if a gamblers didn't hear the quote, there is a big chance that they will still continue. It's either they are addicted already or they don't see gambling as a wrong doing. It's just part of their normal life. I think there is no such quote here in my country but people here can say negative things about gambling only to discourage someone from engaging on it.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on July 21, 2023, 02:54:49 AM

It somehow reminded me of stories about some gamblers who resorted to borrowing money from their relatives and friends to continue gambling with the hope of winning back the money they lost in the casinos. I guess it is better for gamblers to learn how to stop gambling and cut losses early if they found themselves starting to borrow money to gamble as the chances for them to recoup their losses are very low.

That is the worse effect on trying to put your money at stake especially if you can't afford to lose that money, you would do everything or sacrifice just to bring back what you have lost. Well it might also connected to the phrase "if you quit that's when you lose" . It's actually depends on the person, on how they can handle the regrets on losing something if they would learn to not do it again or would do anything just to bring it back. Always remember that gambling could give you a result of win or lose, that's on you already if you can't accept the fact that you risked your money. Always have a limit on yourself on everything because too much is too much.

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That's quite the rallying cry, then, is it not? A beacon of optimism for punters in the midst of a sea of defeat. But is it true, or is it a siren song that leads naive gamblers to ruin? What I think is as follows.

These optimistic proverbs gloss over the degree to which gambling relies on chance. They make us feel like we have control when none exists, and that if we can just hang on, we can beat the odds. The odds of winning in gambling do not follow the pattern of a hero's journey, in which a succession of missteps eventually pays off. Each wager is an independent occurrence unrelated to any previous difficulties.

It's like the old adage that goes something like, "The wheel always comes full circle." I, however, do not share this view. I don't base my decisions on the opinions of others, but on the facts I've independently verified. Unfortunately, the odds are stacked against the bettor.

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Quote from: Shamm on July 21, 2023, 10:14:51 AM

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It somehow reminded me of stories about some gamblers who resorted to borrowing money from their relatives and friends to continue gambling with the hope of winning back the money they lost in the casinos. I guess it is better for gamblers to learn how to stop gambling and cut losses early if they found themselves starting to borrow money to gamble as the chances for them to recoup their losses are very low.

Borrowing money from relatives and friends in order to sustain Thier wants which is gambling, because of the reason that they are aiming to win. In order to have a profits and pay for Thier loans, but in reality there are only small amount of winning in gambling especially if aiming a profits. And a gambler's don't have Thier luck then for sure they will loss.

Things like this often happen to them (gamblers), who knows what's in their minds so they are so sure of doing this. Borrowing money from other people including relatives in the hope of getting a win and then they pay the debt and receive a little profit on it, this is just an algorithm in the mind, I mean this is just a wish and if they do they will not have the slightest chance of winning the. I'm sure someone who is determined to do this is only for those who are already addicted, so they will most likely justify any means to fulfill their desire to gamble. It's wrong to put too much hope in gambling, and I'm sure some healthy people will think the same. So the point is this is nothing more than a matter of luck, if we continue to chase victory then it is very likely that we will experience a lot of defeats.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on July 21, 2023, 02:54:49 AM

It somehow reminded me of stories about some gamblers who resorted to borrowing money from their relatives and friends to continue gambling with the hope of winning back the money they lost in the casinos. I guess it is better for gamblers to learn how to stop gambling and cut losses early if they found themselves starting to borrow money to gamble as the chances for them to recoup their losses are very low.

Borrowing money from relatives and friends in order to sustain Thier wants which is gambling, because of the reason that they are aiming to win. In order to have a profits and pay for Thier loans, but in reality there are only small amount of winning in gambling especially if aiming a profits. And a gambler's don't have Thier luck then for sure they will loss.

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What i do most times is to make sure I don't gamble more than my selected time because sometimes we get carried away with the excitement of winning that can lead us to loss in the end, this has been the most evident reality of most gamblers.
They either go after chasing losses or get over-excited to gamble more because of winning, and this can result in some outcome that most will likely not be fair to them.

But in all no one really care whether you win or lose as long as you gamble in online casinos that nobody knows your results whether win or lose.

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The only person who would believe such deceptive statements as "If you quit that's when you lose" is one who lacks a mind or the ability to make their own decisions. In a day, I won't be able to get myself to believe that nonsense. Even though I hear when people make fun of such words to me, I usually make a snide remark like, "Are they the ones giving me money to bet on my lost games?"

The purpose of gambling is not to demonstrate to friends that you will undoubtedly win the games you have wagered on. Quit when success seems hard in your gambling bets to prevent further loss. The loss is felt by you, not by them.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

There's a popular remark among gamblers in the part of my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose". They use this statement to encourage and give futuristic hope to themselves that no matter how much they loss today or how many wagers they have lost they don't need to quit as it's possible you may be the next jackpot winner tomorrow. For it's like say don't quit yet there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Well then I hope that those gamblers in your country are frequently winning but if they are not and that they are having the opposite outcome, what can I say aside from I'm not really surprised by it. That statement might encourage someone but it's not really advisable because if you say that, it's just like pushing someone towards the edge because instead of saving themselves from a lose streak, they will lose more if they won't quit. Besides, what are the guarantees that if they don't quit they will start winning?

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Quote from: bangjoe on July 21, 2023, 07:13:01 AM

In my country about that statement is the opposite, "If you stop to gamble then you have been declared winning" This is more logical than looking at the opportunity at a glimmer of light of money, you can't see and very sudden.

The statement on statement OP was misleading in my opinion, and that thought was usually eaten by gambling addicts, so they spent the money he had to get the divine light from the tunnel described, but actually it was a statement to make them enthusiastic about spending money in gambling, and or trapped Those who have ignorance and have no regulation in managing finances.

It is indeed misleading and everyone will think and act to get the light -10% win from a 100% win rate, it is a stupid thought if you want to get a win, and maybe it is the words of a gambling influencer who wants to trap people with his stigma.
So it's important here to have the sanity of thinking as you say, so you don't get caught up in stupidity like that, and it's also important to make gambling a place to seek pleasure, not a place to earn money or seek victory, so that everything is controlled within the limits set before gambling.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 21, 2023, 07:28:29 AM

It's difficult to get people to think that far, and maybe they don't even realize things like this. However, the realization must be sought to come to them.

Indeed, it is difficult to have a sane mind in response to this, especially those who have addiction at a more severe level, will usually ignore the words of people who give good advice to them in response to gambling.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 21, 2023, 07:09:35 AM

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It somehow reminded me of stories about some gamblers who resorted to borrowing money from their relatives and friends to continue gambling with the hope of winning back the money they lost in the casinos. I guess it is better for gamblers to learn how to stop gambling and cut losses early if they found themselves starting to borrow money to gamble as the chances for them to recoup their losses are very low.

From very low to non existent as I have yet to hear a story of how a homeless person in full debts managed to go to the casino to win big and to pay back all debts,win money and to buy a mansion for him to change the life from this to that.This means that most of the times,for me always whenever a person borrows money it is directly going to ruin himself if he put that money as a deposit in any casino and plays there.There are simply no stories of such persons and this should be enough to have as example that the statement "if you quit that's when you lose" maybe related to other fields in life but got nothing to do with gambling.

Well, somehow I have seen someone from a less priviledge and was very poor in winning games and after many attempt, he won a life changing money at the end, but it wasn't from a debt, he has no debt but was playing from a small amount with big odds until one day won a lottery and that was how the life change from a common person to someone who own a business because he was educated but just that the money was not there and also bought a house and was living comfortable.

Borrowing money to gamble is like a product with an expire date, when a gambler continue in that path without showing any result for playing all those games, the consequences result to regret and people hating you for real, people will not want to have something to do with you again because you will be know as moeny defulter.

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Quote from: tusandii on July 21, 2023, 07:12:29 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 21, 2023, 05:32:04 AM

Quote from: Barcode_ on July 21, 2023, 02:54:49 AM

It somehow reminded me of stories about some gamblers who resorted to borrowing money from their relatives and friends to continue gambling with the hope of winning back the money they lost in the casinos. I guess it is better for gamblers to learn how to stop gambling and cut losses early if they found themselves starting to borrow money to gamble as the chances for them to recoup their losses are very low.

Forcing ourselves when we lose is definitely not something that is very good to do, and as you said in such a case one must realize that returning to financial condition after getting a loss again and again should not be something easy and tends to be impossible so in this case the importance of trying to stop when we get a loss is very good. That can be one of the good things and make us at least not too focused on the gambling losses that have occurred.
We must realize that although ambition is good but being too ambitious especially in gambling will only destroy yourself.

If you do this, you will only get bigger losses at the end of the game session and worse, you can lose all of your balance.
Being too ambitious to return losses is always disastrous for gamblers, so it's better to just stop when you're experiencing defeat.
Controlling emotions when losing will be more difficult than controlling emotions when winning, so it's better to leave immediately and leave the sites that we use for a while.

On the one hand we will continue to lose and will certainly keep us in trouble, even new problems can occur at that time.
It's like a hole that if we can't get out of it then we will forever be in such an ambitious state. What we have to do is play from above the hole, so that we can know what limits we should not cross so that we do not fall into the hole.

I totally understand that when gambling, winning is definitely our hope, and when we lose we think we want to return our losses and hope to win with the amount we spent at the beginning and after that stop. But in reality it is not that easy to win in gambling, luck is still a factor in which we can win, especially if we play with great ambition, then I think it will make luck even away from us.

It's difficult to get people to think that far, and maybe they don't even realize things like this. However, the realization must be sought to come to them.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

There's a popular remark among gamblers in the part of my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose".

I do not agree with you, it depends on what you are quoting for, if you quit for something that has values like Bitcoin investment, although Bitcoin investment is 90% not 100% but if you quit for gambling I don't see that as lossing anything rather than saving your money, this statement is mostly used for gambling addict's, the are the only persons who say that to motivate there gambling instincts.
If I quit for gambling I will not take that as losing, prove me wrong by not agreeing with what I said.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 19, 2023, 03:49:50 PM

From what I observed from this statement is that, many of these gamblers have been misled by this very remark of a hypothetical hope which has liquidated their account. While some who would have quit gambling long ago still hedge their hope on the idea behind the statement and keeps wagering.

Oh yes definitely! Sure, this kind of mindset works in other aspects of life but in gambling where the odds are random, this cannot be applied.

I used to believe in the saying the only failure is when you stop trying but this only works where failure is not an option in grinding in real life. But in gambling, this cannot be applied.

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Now let's take this to a discuss; how correct is this statement? And is there any similar statement like that in your home-country that's popularly used among gamblers to encourage themselves from quiting gambling because they're losing?
Or would you allow your decision to quit gambling to be affected by any popular statement among your fellow gamblers or it's a no no thing for you?

I honestly believe that it is very incorrect to apply this kind of statement to something that is risky in nature. Gambling is not something where you can perfect your craft on. Sure, you may know ways of increasing the odds in your favour but if you are against something on the numbers itself, then it is futile.

No matter how good you may get, gambling is still gambling and the more you play, the more you put yourself in a situation where losing is also an option.

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In my country about that statement is the opposite, "If you stop to gamble then you have been declared winning" This is more logical than looking at the opportunity at a glimmer of light of money, you can't see and very sudden.

The statement on statement OP was misleading in my opinion, and that thought was usually eaten by gambling addicts, so they spent the money he had to get the divine light from the tunnel described, but actually it was a statement to make them enthusiastic about spending money in gambling, and or trapped Those who have ignorance and have no regulation in managing finances.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 21, 2023, 05:32:04 AM

Quote from: Barcode_ on July 21, 2023, 02:54:49 AM

It somehow reminded me of stories about some gamblers who resorted to borrowing money from their relatives and friends to continue gambling with the hope of winning back the money they lost in the casinos. I guess it is better for gamblers to learn how to stop gambling and cut losses early if they found themselves starting to borrow money to gamble as the chances for them to recoup their losses are very low.

Forcing ourselves when we lose is definitely not something that is very good to do, and as you said in such a case one must realize that returning to financial condition after getting a loss again and again should not be something easy and tends to be impossible so in this case the importance of trying to stop when we get a loss is very good. That can be one of the good things and make us at least not too focused on the gambling losses that have occurred.
We must realize that although ambition is good but being too ambitious especially in gambling will only destroy yourself.

If you do this, you will only get bigger losses at the end of the game session and worse, you can lose all of your balance.
Being too ambitious to return losses is always disastrous for gamblers, so it's better to just stop when you're experiencing defeat.
Controlling emotions when losing will be more difficult than controlling emotions when winning, so it's better to leave immediately and leave the sites that we use for a while.

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