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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
Gambling should be for entertainment and fun! If you desire to used as an investment platform then you should be ready to face the risk in it because the probability of losing all your investments will hold.
I really don't know why the hell people are always saying investments in gambling even if they're not in partnership with the house. Pretty seems like they don't know the difference at all, and much more is that they've been expecting something in return with some assurance.
Many do not understand the difference and it is a shame, this is why many treat their investments as if they are just gambling and when you ask them about basic knowledge they need to be profitable in their trades they do not know what you are talking about, however that is a belief that I only found in the people that regularly gamble, when I gambled at physical casinos I used to chat with people about this and those that were there for the first time were there only to have fun, but those that were there constantly had the idea that they could make money in gambling even if they were long term losers.
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I know that it's all completely random with dice and roulette.

Random doesnt describe it completely, probability theory applies which is a branch of maths going back hundreds of years.    There is a reasonable return to paying attention to the various odds and when they might favour a bet over other times.   

However I would also argue some might distract themselves with gambling systems while ignoring the bare basics of only ever gambling with a set budget and never any more.   If you cannot follow a simple rule of self discipline of only spending a set amount then you cannot hope to employ anything more elaborate like studying best probable odds on each game.

    Best solution is forget the money and the idea of profit, its purely a game to play and always use small enough amounts that it doesnt matter.   When you learn the game better or are aware of the odds in play then use the full set budget.    Hope you profit but it is only a hope.
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In any case, a gambler must possess not only certain knowledge, but also have a good mood at the time of the game.  You can never approach the excitement and play with a negative mood.  In addition, the gambler must fully study the gambling in order to have real opportunities to get some percentage of confidence in his victory.

having a good mood is very necessary when we play gambling, because an uncomfortable mood can affect the pattern of the game to be negative and the chance to lose is likely to be easier to feel than to win
Not at all, even if you are on a good mood or bad it doesn't really affect winning probability unless if you do play with strategy based games then this one is mainly affected but for pure luck based ones then it doesn't really matter though.

The sole purpose why we do play gambling is too seek out fun and entertainment.If you do play to ease your stress or anger then that's the right way on treating up gambling.
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Gambling should be for entertainment and fun! If you desire to used as an investment platform then you should be ready to face the risk in it because the probability of losing all your investments will hold.
I really don't know why the hell people are always saying investments in gambling even if they're not in partnership with the house. Pretty seems like they don't know the difference at all, and much more is that they've been expecting something in return with some assurance.
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I know that it's all completely random with dice and roulette. No skills go into it unlike in card-based games. If I'm playing these pure luck games the only thing I'd be trying to do is "delay" the time before I lose all my money.

Basically prolonging the time I'm playing rather than trying to earn. It's all for fun. Any one believing they can "beat" these games are just going to be disappointed.
Some were trying to beat the system but in reality, they will never beat the system because the system is designed to beat them. Even if they do have the highest bankroll they will never gonna beat it. Luck-based games aren't that easy to win even if you use the martingale strategy, the odds is always on the house.

What you were doing is just for fun because you were trying to prolong the play which is what i am doing sometimes if i feel that i wasn't that lucky that day. It's like passing the bad luck to someone and starts to play again, somehow it's quite effective to let the time pass but most of the time i always end up losing it all since i always lose my tempered.

As they say, there's only one true winner in the game - the house.

I think it's a bad idea to gamble if you are not in a good mood to begin with. We've already established the house edge and the randomness, so more often than not, you're going to lose money. And that would make you pissed off more.
Of course, it is a bad idea to gamble that's why i stop it immediately if i don't feel the good vibes coming when gambling. Although i tried it sometimes to control my emotion when things aren't doing well as i've expected. Then i stop for a moment while thinking how i lose on a game like that then get back to play again.

My kind of gambling cycle is kind of boring if someone looks at it but i find my peace on it when everytime i lose my self-control.


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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
Addiction to something that makes you lose money is bad and that is why many gambling addict are classified as bad habits. If you are winning and you are addicted, many will see it as a good habit but the opposite is always the case because of greed and selfishness. I agree that gambling is for fun as many has promoted it here and it has to be seeing like that if you most not be addicted to it especially if you lose often!
I think that a gambler must first of all be aware of the fact that gambling is designed for owners to receive income, and not to reward gambling people with a jackpot or simple winnings.


That’s truth and people who has more anticipation on gambling games should understand these things. When there is heavy loss that time only we can see their emotion comes out.

Due to this addiction I heard that many people lose their funds those people must understand that it is a entertainment factor alone.
Gambling should be for entertainment and fun! If you desire to used as an investment platform then you should be ready to face the risk in it because the probability of losing all your investments will hold. There was a day that I was playing dice with my friends and at the end we began to laught over it because of the way the whole thing was turning out and I was happy doing so. Gambling is fund when the funds you put in is not much.
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I know that it's all completely random with dice and roulette. No skills go into it unlike in card-based games. If I'm playing these pure luck games the only thing I'd be trying to do is "delay" the time before I lose all my money.

Card base games also rely on luck.  One cannot bluff an opponent who really have a good set of cards in his hands.  For example, you cannot bluff an opponent in blackjack that have an ace and a king in hand into folding his cards.  Though skill may play a role in this game but at the end, it is the luck of having a good set of cards that play most.


Basically prolonging the time I'm playing rather than trying to earn. It's all for fun. Any one believing they can "beat" these games are just going to be disappointed.

There are people who beat the game, these player are those who quit once they hit a jackpot.
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In any case, a gambler must possess not only certain knowledge, but also have a good mood at the time of the game.  You can never approach the excitement and play with a negative mood.  In addition, the gambler must fully study the gambling in order to have real opportunities to get some percentage of confidence in his victory.
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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
As they say, there's only one true winner in the game - the house.

I think it's a bad idea to gamble if you are not in a good mood to begin with. We've already established the house edge and the randomness, so more often than not, you're going to lose money. And that would make you pissed off more.
Oh so you are also in support of the notion of the house being the only winner in gambling? I have heard this a countless time and I am against this ideology. This is an assumption that has been drawn by a group of greedy and undisciplined gamblers. This house stuff is 50/50 from my observation, a player that plays with caution wills most likely win at all times.

I have won a lot of times, even sometimes I win games that I conclude in my heart that it would be impossible and I cannot even remember any kind of strategy. All I do is to have a very good knowledge of my games, then proceed and be optimistic while I put in my best. This is as easy as ABC and luckily I always win.
You are ignoring the probabilities of the game, in any given day there are bound to be many gamblers that win but the house does not care since the majority of gamblers lost money during that particular day so the casino earned money, in fact if no gamblers won at the casino from time to time casinos will go out of business since there will not be so many people arguing that you can make money in their games, but in the long run unless you are playing a game that could generate a positive expectancy like poker you are bound to lose everything you have.
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As they say, there's only one true winner in the game - the house.

I think it's a bad idea to gamble if you are not in a good mood to begin with. We've already established the house edge and the randomness, so more often than not, you're going to lose money. And that would make you pissed off more.
Oh so you are also in support of the notion of the house being the only winner in gambling? I have heard this a countless time and I am against this ideology. This is an assumption that has been drawn by a group of greedy and undisciplined gamblers. This house stuff is 50/50 from my observation, a player that plays with caution wills most likely win at all times.

I have won a lot of times, even sometimes I win games that I conclude in my heart that it would be impossible and I cannot even remember any kind of strategy. All I do is to have a very good knowledge of my games, then proceed and be optimistic while I put in my best. This is as easy as ABC and luckily I always win.
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I know that it's all completely random with dice and roulette. No skills go into it unlike in card-based games. If I'm playing these pure luck games the only thing I'd be trying to do is "delay" the time before I lose all my money.

Basically prolonging the time I'm playing rather than trying to earn. It's all for fun. Any one believing they can "beat" these games are just going to be disappointed.
Some were trying to beat the system but in reality, they will never beat the system because the system is designed to beat them. Even if they do have the highest bankroll they will never gonna beat it. Luck-based games aren't that easy to win even if you use the martingale strategy, the odds is always on the house.

What you were doing is just for fun because you were trying to prolong the play which is what i am doing sometimes if i feel that i wasn't that lucky that day. It's like passing the bad luck to someone and starts to play again, somehow it's quite effective to let the time pass but most of the time i always end up losing it all since i always lose my tempered.

As they say, there's only one true winner in the game - the house.

I think it's a bad idea to gamble if you are not in a good mood to begin with. We've already established the house edge and the randomness, so more often than not, you're going to lose money. And that would make you pissed off more.
legendary
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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
Because of the money a lots of gamblers became addicted to this activities thinking that it's much easier and quicker if they've got some luck
but in most cases there's a lots of addicted gamblers who keeps on losing their money playing and not realizing that its just a simple way
to lose everything when addictions gets to serious.
Meh. it's basically both fella, a simple way to earn and lose money,... it is indeed like that as for this game is just based on luck, depends on every situation I guess? Huh Not all the time someone can have that, so you can tell that this is just a pure waste of money. After all, most of the time gamblers does lose instead of winning, the owners of these companies are just enjoying the view from above. Even if someone can get a new methods, the owners are capable of contradicting that, in a way easier than finding a new winning system.
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I know that it's all completely random with dice and roulette. No skills go into it unlike in card-based games. If I'm playing these pure luck games the only thing I'd be trying to do is "delay" the time before I lose all my money.

Basically prolonging the time I'm playing rather than trying to earn. It's all for fun. Any one believing they can "beat" these games are just going to be disappointed.
Some were trying to beat the system but in reality, they will never beat the system because the system is designed to beat them. Even if they do have the highest bankroll they will never gonna beat it. Luck-based games aren't that easy to win even if you use the martingale strategy, the odds is always on the house.

What you were doing is just for fun because you were trying to prolong the play which is what i am doing sometimes if i feel that i wasn't that lucky that day. It's like passing the bad luck to someone and starts to play again, somehow it's quite effective to let the time pass but most of the time i always end up losing it all since i always lose my tempered.
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I know that it's all completely random with dice and roulette. No skills go into it unlike in card-based games. If I'm playing these pure luck games the only thing I'd be trying to do is "delay" the time before I lose all my money.

Basically prolonging the time I'm playing rather than trying to earn. It's all for fun. Any one believing they can "beat" these games are just going to be disappointed.
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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
Because of the money a lots of gamblers became addicted to this activities thinking that it's much easier and quicker if they've got some luck
but in most cases there's a lots of addicted gamblers who keeps on losing their money playing and not realizing that its just a simple way
to lose everything when addictions gets to serious.
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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
No, gambling addict totally understand that gambling is a game of chance and the possible of winning is usually from 1%-10% but the main problem is they don't have the  ability to control the game buzz once it take over them while their focus is on the jackpot.
Yes in gambling most of the time only luck I people wins but those who rely only on luck will get more at the end but a gambler should have guts to control his emotions.  Gamblers will have to control their feelings never give up but keep learning gambling has allot of profit
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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
Addiction to something that makes you lose money is bad and that is why many gambling addict are classified as bad habits. If you are winning and you are addicted, many will see it as a good habit but the opposite is always the case because of greed and selfishness. I agree that gambling is for fun as many has promoted it here and it has to be seeing like that if you most not be addicted to it especially if you lose often!
I think that a gambler must first of all be aware of the fact that gambling is designed for owners to receive income, and not to reward gambling people with a jackpot or simple winnings.


That’s truth and people who has more anticipation on gambling games should understand these things. When there is heavy loss that time only we can see their emotion comes out.

Due to this addiction I heard that many people lose their funds those people must understand that it is a entertainment factor alone.
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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!
You can demonstrate in 100 different ways why such methods will never work and those that want to believe there is a way to make money in gambling will not believe you and will always try to refute your claims with their weak arguments, at the end there is nothing you can do to save them, if they do not lose their money using flawed methods in gambling then they will invest in a ponzi scheme or they will invest in a fraudulent ico and lose their money that way.
Honestly, there is no amount of conviction or demonstration that can change a mind that is made up on using strategies. I was once in this shoe and I can relate perfectly. I remember how I always argued with everyone that there is always a strategy that would work, kept on trying till I realized I was already indebted. It took me months to recover all that was lost and I learnt the hard way.

There’s no point explaining to gamblers. Let those who believe martingale or every other strategy works give it a trial, they would learn like I did and come back to teach others. It’s very simple, play games for fun and stop believing that gambling can make you rich suddenly. It has and never works that way.
At least you learned your lesson, I have seen people losing everything they have still claim there is a way to make money in gambling, I suppose this happens because they want to believe they can still recover all the money they have lost and make profits someday, and unfortunately I see this kind of thinking as well in the world of trading and investing, it seems people are obsessed with high risk ideas that could yield huge profits in a short amount of time but we know those ideas never work
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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
Addiction to something that makes you lose money is bad and that is why many gambling addict are classified as bad habits. If you are winning and you are addicted, many will see it as a good habit but the opposite is always the case because of greed and selfishness. I agree that gambling is for fun as many has promoted it here and it has to be seeing like that if you most not be addicted to it especially if you lose often!
I think that a gambler must first of all be aware of the fact that gambling is designed for owners to receive income, and not to reward gambling people with a jackpot or simple winnings.
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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.
Addiction to something that makes you lose money is bad and that is why many gambling addict are classified as bad habits. If you are winning and you are addicted, many will see it as a good habit but the opposite is always the case because of greed and selfishness. I agree that gambling is for fun as many has promoted it here and it has to be seeing like that if you most not be addicted to it especially if you lose often!
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