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Topic: Impossibility of a gambling system (Why methods don't work) - page 7. (Read 1607 times)

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Methods are not 100% won't work because no one else will be able to have a chance in beating the house edge of a gambling system even if your chance of winning or losing to that game is 50/50 but still it is not possible to do it. Gambling is really base on pure luck whether your a lucky winner or a loser.
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I stopped applying methods or anything that can give me a so-called winning edge because honestly, it will not come, you will just go and chase your losses, you will just keep adding more funds to your bet in the hope that you can regain what you have lost, but unfortunately that's not going to work, so instead of having fun you will end up dissatisfied.

Same here. We learn as we go. When I heard of martingale and other strategies I couldn't keep on playing like normal without trying them out. I saw people saying that they don't work but i was like that child that has to touch and get burned to learn. I did just that and now I know what not to do Cheesy

Sometimes you regain the loss and sometimes you don't. There are stories of people who lost everything went to the bank and back to the casino and won it all back. It's never only black or white in gambling and in life.
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If a specific method works or will work in gambling then no casino or website will be established. It purely depends on your luck to win or not. Even mathematicians can't or even tried to beat a gambling system.

Totally agree. If a mathematician or genius already created the solution to beat the house, I would say more gamblers are getting rich. Yet, the number is still the same. Very few has their luck in this system. Martingale might work but it doesn't work all the time. Luck is still the major player here.
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There are some types of gambling that are fairly predictable.
I am not grounded in the things of gambling but I would categorize it in two based on my little understanding:  

1. Probability based gambling.
There is no known way, strategy or method of predicting probability based gambling. This is based on luck.

2.  Skill based gambling .
While the skill-based gamblings have important factors that make them fairly predictable. Ability to predict this type of gambling can improve with time.
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I stopped applying methods or anything that can give me a so-called winning edge because honestly, it will not come, you will just go and chase your losses, you will just keep adding more funds to your bet in the hope that you can regain what you have lost, but unfortunately that's not going to work, so instead of having fun you will end up dissatisfied.
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It's a given fact and proven that no method works, you can win once but you cannot win every time, so why not just allocate funds relax and play the game, without forcing yourself to win in every bet, you'll not only going to enjoy it but you will have confidence in your ability to stop when it's time to stop.
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You went through so much thinking and trouble when it all boils down to a simple fact: If there was a method to have a sure win (at least on average) it'd be seen as a flaw and immediately patched up by the operator.
I can't deny the possibility that some loopholes could appear in new games that were not tested before, but the games are usually too simple mathematically to have any overlooked flaw.
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And that is why martingale is not really effective, as the longer you play with this system the odds grow overtime. If you employ strategy and have successes in the beginning, before get out and exit while you can and don't feel confident that you have caught the 'holy grail' of strategies. Control is the key is you wanted to win using martingale (or any variations of it).
I agree with op that there is no any gambling strategies that really works and we do need strong understanding of this fact in other not to continue thinking that we are going to hit it big through one secret that only us know and others did not know. The martingale strategy you mentioned did not work and it makes me lose huge amount of money about three weeks ago when I tried to test it for the first time. I conclude within myself that there is no secret that works but only luck that may makes you to win in gambling and that means gambling is for fun and not hit big.

Yea that's what's so crazy about it, even when you "know" methods don't work, you can still sometimes convince yourself that it does. I still have a lot of trouble understanding exactly how the math works, just because the sheer scale. Statistics is such a fascinating subject, especially when gambling is involved.
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And that is why martingale is not really effective, as the longer you play with this system the odds grow overtime. If you employ strategy and have successes in the beginning, before get out and exit while you can and don't feel confident that you have caught the 'holy grail' of strategies. Control is the key is you wanted to win using martingale (or any variations of it).
I agree with op that there is no any gambling strategies that really works and we do need strong understanding of this fact in other not to continue thinking that we are going to hit it big through one secret that only us know and others did not know. The martingale strategy you mentioned did not work and it makes me lose huge amount of money about three weeks ago when I tried to test it for the first time. I conclude within myself that there is no secret that works but only luck that may makes you to win in gambling and that means gambling is for fun and not hit big.
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The reason why methods don't work is because you are out of luck. Most of the gambling is based on luck and one needs a very good luck to earn a fortune in gambling.
There are some strategies such as the methods but even that requires luck since many people lose their money despite applying the strategies.
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They say math is absolute. Indeed it is. And when we talk of dice rolls and coin tosses, the math will tell you that there is not a single strategy that can be developed out of it as regards the outcome. This is pure gambling. You cannot use anything or summon no one but luck.

But perhaps you can count on betting on the inside after 10 successive rolls with an outside outcome. That is one "method" I am using. But then again you could end up rolling 10 more times and it is always outside that comes out. If that happens, you just have to get out and accept that luck is not on your side. 
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I am winning more bets when I'm playing without rules or methods than playing, I play using my hunch and enjoying everybet and I did not notice that my winnings are adding up it happens several times, I believe it's more fun and sometimes if you just have some fun and play with your hunch.
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Sometimes these people that are saying that they can beat the game with certain methods they just want to boast about it because they got so much lucky in using such method but in reality, it is just a coincidence they are winning I using them, And some just want people to buy their method or want to scam other people that they can play for them in a method that they learned, But this is just fraud because there is no such method to really beat the house edge I experience it first hand I have tried every method and sometimes made my own pattern in playing the game and nothing just wok out for me.
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There is no working strategy in gambling that is why people creating many strategies and saying that it will work and it might worked.

if there is no working strategy then why whats the point of creating many strategies ? whats bad is that they claim that its working and there are some that sells thier strategy  .  there are also strategies that became popular but why did they became so popular if they arent  working  ?  the truth is that they work but they dont have the magic to give you win streaks   . they only work a little and the rest will depend on you on how you manage your self  .
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Gambling systems never work in the long run and everyone are aware of that, but this in no way means that they are useless. They help in gaining profits in the short term if luck sides with you.

They also help in managing your bankroll more effectively. Among these methods, my favorite is the Oscar's grind since it helps my bankroll last longer.
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If a specific method works or will work in gambling then no casino or website will be established. It purely depends on your luck to win or not. Even mathematicians can't or even tried to beat a gambling system.
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There is no working strategy in gambling that is why people creating many strategies and saying that it will work and it might worked.

but this is nothing more than luck if the strategies we are using working for us and only for very short time.
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There's no "gambling system",when it comes to dice sites and flipping coins.Everything is just pure luck.
The only gambling game,where you can apply systems and strategies is poker and even in poker,the amount of luck needed for success is still significant.
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The martingale is probably one of the most known and most popular betting methods of all time.
Well, martingale strategy is usually riskier although it is well known. I had been here in gambling discussion for almost a year looking and searching strategies and ideas but it seems all thought I had found that every house edge of gambling platform never been defeat and can't apply the same method and I think they have different script. Indeed, the fact is gambling is for fun and you can never chase money on it if you are regular gamblers and luck is on you much better.
Marginale system is well known because it is very simple and straightforward. But mathematically it has no sense, if probability to win is 50%. So I agree, don't be mad, play for the entertainment, have fun.

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The martingale is probably one of the most known and most popular betting methods of all time.
Well, martingale strategy is usually riskier although it is well known. I had been here in gambling discussion for almost a year looking and searching strategies and ideas but it seems all thought I had found that every house edge of gambling platform never been defeat and can't apply the same method and I think they have different script. Indeed, the fact is gambling is for fun and you can never chase money on it if you are regular gamblers and luck is on you much better.
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