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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 28, 2019, 09:12:19 AM

It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.

No, gambling addict totally understand that gambling is a game of chance and the possible of winning is usually from 1%-10% but the main problem is they don't have the ability to control the game buzz once it take over them while their focus is on the jackpot.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 28, 2019, 09:12:19 AM

It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Gambler addicts don't realize that reality. They only think the jackpot if ever they win. They don't even realize they just lose plenty of money before they can win. Gambling's main purpose is to entertain people but because money is involved makes many addicted to it.

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I have met a lot of people who like to gamble and that's cool but a majority of them say they "know the secret" they can "beat the system" it's wild for so many people to think they can edge out the house or there is a system that hasn't been figured out and blocked yet.

Honestly if you're looking for odd's martingale roulette could be it and just always bet on one color but make sure you have a hell of a large bankroll to rock it.

I bet they know the secret how to lose a lot of money. If anyone tell us something like that, we should not take them seriously. Even the famous martingale will never guarantee us a 100% win. No matter what approach we made on it. The impossibility of gambling system depends on the probability attached to it. And worsed, the house always have an edge that makes the chance of winning slim.

Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 29, 2019, 12:46:51 PM

Because I think the reason gambling has been created is just for entertainment and the win money is just a bonus for the player. But soon, people realize that gambling can be a way to make money, especially if they can master some game which is not based on the luck only. They will learn so many strategies to win, and they will learn by spending their time to practice more and more. But in the end, they still get lost in the gambling game.

Gambling is created for business and for t he owner to get profit but of course to entice their customer, winnings is attached to it and entertainment is just a bonus of it.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 28, 2019, 09:12:19 AM

It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

Because I think the reason gambling has been created is just for entertainment and the win money is just a bonus for the player. But soon, people realize that gambling can be a way to make money, especially if they can master some game which is not based on the luck only. They will learn so many strategies to win, and they will learn by spending their time to practice more and more. But in the end, they still get lost in the gambling game.

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Gambling is builded apply that the chances of winning is always very low in every gambling system that is the only reason everyone going and losing it in most of the time but otherwise gambling is a fun filled game system so we need to use it as entertainment only.

The reason that money is involved in gambling makes most gamblers addicted to it. They tend to chase big profit not realizing they just wager more money before they win. Even if they win, they get greedy and bet more. In the end they got nothing from their gambling habit but only regret.

It is nothing but only money that works as a motivation for the people who want to make quick money. This is the reason of the huge net worth of the gambling industry. 530 billion dollars is a big thing and this money is lost in the gambling industry be people and is won by others. The reason why people fail to win at gambling is the absence of experience and wise decisions as well as strategies.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 27, 2019, 05:02:47 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 26, 2019, 04:56:51 PM

Gambling is builded apply that the chances of winning is always very low in every gambling system that is the only reason everyone going and losing it in most of the time but otherwise gambling is a fun filled game system so we need to use it as entertainment only.

The reason that money is involved in gambling makes most gamblers addicted to it. They tend to chase big profit not realizing they just wager more money before they win. Even if they win, they get greedy and bet more. In the end they got nothing from their gambling habit but only regret.

Big part of gamblers losing results is when they've start to engaged too much and become greedy, many gamblers ends up losing everything instead of getting some profits, they've tend to try deeper while the house keeps on teasing them to continue and lose everything after.

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Quote from: South Park on July 25, 2019, 12:12:48 PM

You can demonstrate in 100 different ways why such methods will never work and those that want to believe there is a way to make money in gambling will not believe you and will always try to refute your claims with their weak arguments, at the end there is nothing you can do to save them, if they do not lose their money using flawed methods in gambling then they will invest in a ponzi scheme or they will invest in a fraudulent ico and lose their money that way.

You will never be able to solve which coins will fall head or tail even though you use even complicated calculations, because the
algorithm will always change and there is no definite formula to solve it, thats why gambling is said to almost use luck to win.

Luckbase gambling is really difficult to calculate and there's no accurate formulas to use in order to anticipate possible outcome of the game, you are always in the middle choosing between win or lose, if there's something that can exactly formulate the combinations and possible to lead you to correctly guess the incoming results for sure we won't see any existing casino anymore.

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Quote from: South Park on July 25, 2019, 12:12:48 PM

You can demonstrate in 100 different ways why such methods will never work and those that want to believe there is a way to make money in gambling will not believe you and will always try to refute your claims with their weak arguments, at the end there is nothing you can do to save them, if they do not lose their money using flawed methods in gambling then they will invest in a ponzi scheme or they will invest in a fraudulent ico and lose their money that way.

You will never be able to solve which coins will fall head or tail even though you use even complicated calculations, because the
algorithm will always change and there is no definite formula to solve it, thats why gambling is said to almost use luck to win.

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It took me months to recover all that was lost

How did you recover all that was lost if I may ask? From gambling or your other jobs?

There is definitely no known strategy for probability based gambling. But most skill based gamblings have some strategies

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It is sad to know that gambling system is build in a way that no one can beat the system. The root word gamble as we all know and should know that it means you will play a game of chance for money or to take a risk in losing something for a chance to win more than what you are willing to lose or the same amount that you have (if you are lucky).

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Quote from: swogerino on July 22, 2019, 09:44:58 AM

I read a thread today that a man won the lottery 12 times and he did so by creating an algorithm and he managed to do it so the system can be beaten but it take a genius to do it.Almost all normal gamblers who know nothing of algorithms they just play their way and although many of them say they know the secret they don't.I agree that everyone should play the way they feel more comfortable playing.Gambling should not be stressful otherwise addiction is right behind the door.

Here we go again!

So, is there a possibility that someone can invent a "winning method" or there is no such possibility? I think it is the latter because no genius can hack math. Read carefully the famous story how MIT students won $8 million in the Massachusetts Lottery, and you'll see that it happened because of the mistake of the organizers, not because of some miraculous(or genius) algorithm. The "mistake" was actually an intentional one, but that's another story. If you haven't read it, it's worth reading.

In short, even if someone had won 12 times in a lottery, he was just lucky and that's it. Don't buy his method, you will not increase your chances of winning by doing so. Don't buy any "winning methods" because they are no better than those you can invent by yourself.

You can demonstrate in 100 different ways why such methods will never work and those that want to believe there is a way to make money in gambling will not believe you and will always try to refute your claims with their weak arguments, at the end there is nothing you can do to save them, if they do not lose their money using flawed methods in gambling then they will invest in a ponzi scheme or they will invest in a fraudulent ico and lose their money that way.

I'd rather agree with you, most people are like that and we can do nothing about it. However, some people do want to learn from the mistakes of others in order to skip the "inventing a bicycle", and move on. Imo such people are those who make history, or at least follow the progress instead of just repeating the mistakes from the past. That's why such topics as the OP are important, they are aimed at mostly young people who want to learn from the mistakes of the past and move forward.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 24, 2019, 12:12:00 PM

There are so many gamblers around me and I know that when I have the opportunity to chat with all of them they give tactical advice for no reason. In particular, I would like to point out that there is no exact tactic to win, but by chance there is a tactic that contributes to your earning. There is a fact (never forget this fact) that no one will really share with you if they discover a tactic that wins. Man is selfish by nature and always wins a safe in gambling. Therefore, it should be known that a person who discovers a really good method of winnings will never share this method, and there is never a tactic that guarantees a definite win in gambling.

I feel you have already closed your heart to believing that there are winning strategies in gambling, but truly there are and I have seen people who are still willing to teach. Man’s stingy nature does not apply to gambling game. The world of gambling is big and one winning does not really affect another, this is the reason most gamblers do not hide their knowledge.

I have seen gamblers who have broken the odd by using strategies. The only reason I have not learnt this is because I do not find it necessary because I only gamble for entertainment but if this was a source of income, I would have definitely learnt it rather than losing and believing the odd have been set to be in favor of the site.

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Quote from: South Park on July 25, 2019, 12:12:48 PM

You can demonstrate in 100 different ways why such methods will never work and those that want to believe there is a way to make money in gambling will not believe you and will always try to refute your claims with their weak arguments, at the end there is nothing you can do to save them, if they do not lose their money using flawed methods in gambling then they will invest in a ponzi scheme or they will invest in a fraudulent ico and lose their money that way.

Honestly, there is no amount of conviction or demonstration that can change a mind that is made up on using strategies. I was once in this shoe and I can relate perfectly. I remember how I always argued with everyone that there is always a strategy that would work, kept on trying till I realized I was already indebted. It took me months to recover all that was lost and I learnt the hard way.

There’s no point explaining to gamblers. Let those who believe martingale or every other strategy works give it a trial, they would learn like I did and come back to teach others. It’s very simple, play games for fun and stop believing that gambling can make you rich suddenly. It has and never works that way.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 26, 2019, 04:56:51 PM

Gambling is builded apply that the chances of winning is always very low in every gambling system that is the only reason everyone going and losing it in most of the time but otherwise gambling is a fun filled game system so we need to use it as entertainment only.

The reason that money is involved in gambling makes most gamblers addicted to it. They tend to chase big profit not realizing they just wager more money before they win. Even if they win, they get greedy and bet more. In the end they got nothing from their gambling habit but only regret.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 26, 2019, 04:56:51 PM

Gambling is builded apply that the chances of winning is always very low in every gambling system that is the only reason everyone going and losing it in most of the time but otherwise gambling is a fun filled game system so we need to use it as entertainment only.

That it looks like and we can't neglect such thing to happen.
OP never realize it, only he wants for all be in winning but it won't and losing is not a thing to worried most, instead consider this as a thing we need to do something to make it right in the future. But it is said that they'll take it seriously instead of moving on and forget those days.

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Gambling is builded apply that the chances of winning is always very low in every gambling system that is the only reason everyone going and losing it in most of the time but otherwise gambling is a fun filled game system so we need to use it as entertainment only.

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Quote from: bitgolden on July 24, 2019, 11:34:47 AM

I think the idea is to gamble for fun and never thinking of making profit since strategies to breaking the odds never exist. There is no business without a winning strategy and I see no reason why gambling should be an exception if it should be termed a profession. This is really saddening and heart breaking

I made up my mind to stop hoping I would have a breakthrough in gambling after I realized that I have spent over 7BTCs in gambling and yet not been able to make profit of up to 4BTCs. That’s absurd and I really think that these gambling operators are out to rip us off. I am confused at the moment. Should I continue playing for fun while I keep losing or focus on making profit, while I am hopeful for the future or just quit gambling completely? Honestly it is really confusing at the moment.

What kind of stupid fun is that? Is it free to gamble for fun? If so, then the game should be made without stakes and no money involved to play. Gambling operators are busy buying luxury cars , and making so much from us and I really feel hurt at the moment.

I advise you take a break, not to quit completely but just a break. This is exactly what I also intend doing soon after looking back at all that have been lost to gambling. We can’t give up or lose hope, it’s just to re-strategize. I believe there is still a strategy, no matter what people think or say because like u stated, there’s no business that strategy does not work for. And if truly none works for gambling, that means the game is just for very rich people that want to play for entertainment

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Quote from: adzino on July 25, 2019, 05:39:45 PM

All those "methods" and "strategies" are just gamblers fallacy. Indeed they may help you reduce your loss in the short run, but the results are always the same in the long run. The house will always win no matter what strategy you apply. There is no way you can break the system of gambling unless there is some sort of bug or miscalculation in the casino that can be abused for your advantage. So just fuck all those strategies and just play however you want. If you get lucky you win or else you lose.

I really wonder if anytime a method be developed which can beat the houses. I have seen and came to known so many strategies but none is 100% secure and make us win against the house.
If ever strategies are developed which will beat the houses, then many casino will come to an end as they will lose all their money but i doubt it may happen.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 25, 2019, 07:47:12 PM

I'd rather discover the method that I'll use for gambling rather buying it because there's no guarantee as well that those scripts or methods can win you anything. Totally buying those method are not helping you to discover the best strategy you can get, I'd rather play out my luck too instead of those methods.

There's no assurance that after buying you'll be able to materialized using the methods, it's far better to try out your luck and discover on your own if you'll find a winning combinations and give you some good profits while gambling inside the house, there's no concrete methods or sure strategy it's mostly depends from your luck.

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And that is why martingale is not really effective, as the longer you play with this system the odds grow overtime. If you employ strategy and have successes in the beginning, before get out and exit while you can and don't feel confident that you have caught the 'holy grail' of strategies. Control is the key is you wanted to win using martingale (or any variations of it).

Yeah great advise and strategy mate self control and self discipline is the key to get win and avoid loses because greedy is the way to get more loses. Enjoy to play the games for just for fun.

This is not the reality mate I think a gambler would do the same thing if once he lose something in gambling mistakes are our teacher if we will avoid mistakes it will improve our profit but making mistakes and learning from it is best strategy. For me the only gambling method which works is to learn as much as you can and gather knowledge.

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