I think Helmax sent to
1LpsXbirDYE6qz1YHfJgU6nKKrqKNJWe9D
not that it is his addy.
Unfortunately he seems totally unwilling to give a clear account of exactly what happened.
I'm still just as confused on him as before, lol.
Firejuan: Scammer! got me for 3.6 btc
Helmax: Scammer! Got me for 4.6? btc
Forum: Really? show us details please
Shown many pics of confusion, even in "first" convo firejuan admitted he was confusing two people.
I think so far that from what is shown,
that pcfli makes deals through escrow and honors them. <- not being disputed
Fire juan and helmax sent money thinking it was pcfli, however no-one has shown a bad deal.
ex, "yeah i'll sell you X for _$/btc, pay here...." then OK ship to___ payment sent on___date and TXid is...."
Show us a bad deal, but so far i see pcfli as innocent and someone has used his ad/name likeness for scamming people.
Show me different.
Read this again, I editied for ease of reading and added puncuation. no words changed.
skypepcfli: you said you have talked to me in skype and pay partial payment, are you cheated by some people?
it seems like i just add you as contact this morning?
fire juan: no this is me, you confused, I'm just confused
skypepcfli: on what?
fire juan: I have another seller paid for the part of the miner and mixed it with you alright?
skypepcfli: i understand.
fire juan: I write to you in the evening and we'll talk to order, now you need to go
fire juan: (handshake)
skypepcfli: ok
so you want buy two unit from me? am i right? the price now is 5000$ and the miner will send to you before 11 March.
2 hours later do you want to buy miners today?
Yea that weird language bothered me also.
between fire and pcfli the pics they posted have different dates, which also means OG contact dates were edited.
someone edited something, who is the question!
that pcfli makes deals through escrow and honors them. This is the only fact I have seen thus far, lol.
You have registered an account before me yes.
But you have only posted twice and this is the second time and both at the same thread.
What gives?
Listen, I couldn't care less if you lost money ( I am being honest here) because it is your responsibility to make sure that you don't.
But when you show up here and start accusing people you yourself should be a bit more "legit" let's say.
That being said,
A fool and his money.....
If you lost money, I am sorry but you are stupid and that is why you lost it.
It means you shouldn't have had it in the first place because you DIDN'T RESPECT IT.
Don't get me wrong and don't get started.
It is the hard cold truth.
I pasted it here for ya this time!
I guess I should start with...
I am a miner since the awesome avalon boxes.
Kept buying a little hardware here and there to keep making a few bucks.
I was looking for KnC competition since I have some money in them right now, and found this ad for the 1T.
I hate being lied to, BFL, Josh and that whole crew have really made me hate scammers and liars (same thing in my book) even more than your normal person.
Lost isn't the same as unrealized otherwise I would probably be all up in BFL and that suit, but that is neither here nor there.
Peoples grandparents that lost their savings in the stock market, all the fellow coiners (myself included) that got goxxed , hidden fees on peoples bank accounts, They are all stupid huh?
You have already started and you are already wrong, so I can't get you to either place.
Pcfli, you have gotten desperate and sloppy. I don't care about the bitcoins because I know they are gone but you will not make me out to be a liar.
I have not responded to this because I have been asleep. I unfortunately don't have time to further despite everything because I am going to work. I work third shift in the United States not Korea.
By the way if that fake Gmail account was mine, I would have a mod remove my personal information, but since it is not I don't care.
Fire Juan where did that BTC address you sent BCT to come from?
I think that would be most helpful to know.
Yes, that screenshot of "skypepcfli" + "Skypepcfli" was from helmax, sorry, I should have made it clear. Doesn't prove that firejuan contacted two different Skype users, just suggests a possibility.
As for Skype's "Yesterday" screenshot, it seems to be legit. The first line shows options to click on, i.e. show messages from Yesterday, 7 days, etc and the last option is "From Beginning". When you click on "From Beginning" it shows the date of whatever Skype considers the beginning of that message log, and then all messages grouped by day. So in this case it does not mean that "Yesterday" was 2014-03-05. It just means that 2014-03-05 was probably less than 7 days ago (since there is no 7 days or other options to click on) and that Skype is showing messages STARTING from 2014-03-05. Here is an example of a longer conversation history:
http://i.snag.gy/547LW.jpgCompare to pcfli's version:
http://i.snag.gy/qFQbH.jpgSo it would seem to show that there were no messages between 2014-03-05 and 2014-03-08 and they first shared contact details on 2014-03-09.
Would message log begin before contact is made?
Is 03/05 signup date or something else maybe?
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