Topic: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 - page 60. (Read 186720 times)

Rock of the Marne

may i ask why there are only samples arriving and what have you ordered to get these samples?
i'am not involved exactly in avalon hardware...

You get 30 sample chips for each 10k batch purchase.

may i ask why there are only samples arriving and what have you ordered to get these samples?
i'am not involved exactly in avalon hardware...

We were just about to try and see if we can put forward a refund request for the 10k order, but now that seems like it's going out of the table.

After receiving the samples, who now knows when the complete order will be shipped, it'll be interesting to see.
1 week, 4 weeks, 6 weeks?

Manufactured in week 27. Between 1st and 8th of July.

I don't have my camera with me right now, and the phone camera doesn't work this close. But, this is whats printed on the chips: P6N41613272C.

Yifu fucked us all with his 'No BS chips in 9-10 weeks' policy. Its a worse ploy than BFL. BFL honestly is just very poorly managed, whereas Avalon is destroying their reputation at the same rate the difficulty is rising. Well I think its time 'No BS' became true. I'm not an engineer, just a web developer waiting on 12 Bitburners, but if I were designing Avalon boards, I would definitely consider trying to team up with all the other Avalon developers, and see if a prototype board with Bitfury chips can become a reality. (BFL, even with their better chips are still a gamble due to supply issues). I understand that this would probably require starting from scratch, but if the boards are already a sunk cost at this point, along with the chips themselves even more, it might be worth a shot...maybe we can call them Plan (B)itfury.

...That and a class action lawsuit against Yifu/Bitsyncom. Legal threats might be our only option soon, its been 5 weeks, even BFL at least kept telling people 'fuck off, were working on it'. Yes, I understand the implications and the waste of time and $ it would be to try and organize a lawsuit, but perhaps the threat of jailtime for international advance fee fraud to the tune of over $14,000,000 might be the kick in the ass Avalon/yifu/bitsyncom/bunch of scumbags need. All the talented developers here are getting all the shit because of Avalons increasingly fraudulent behavior.

Here's a great place to report Yifu & Co. for mail fraud, commodity fraud, cyber crime, and many others.

http://www.stopfraud.gov/report.html

Take your pick, be creative!   

For Interpol, choose a country (or five) from here.

http://www.interpol.int/Member-countries/World

Out of interest could you poss take a close up picture of one, or tell us the code running along a chip face please bizwoo?

Picked up in HK on 09/08/2013

This makes me wonder what is really going on. Because, you would think the group buy leaders would be all over this but strangely they are not except for Bicknellski. Meanwhile hashrate is jumping through the roof somehow without any chips getting out.

I have a feeling that there is some delays for the masses while the few who are privy are getting their fill while they can. Your group buy leaders may be in on the gig.

No, they are not. I'm in steamboats group-buy, and he is doing fuck-all. He's making maybe 1 update every two weeks, saying "we'll wait". I hate to say it but his failure to reply to emails and keep the topics up-to-date, tells me that even the group buy organizers might be taking a similar route.

Everybody needs to step up in their group buys and show the organizers that we mean fucking business right now. We are all losing more and more money and we're way past the point where it would even be sensible to consider investing in these chips.

Even at difficulty of 500mil and no change in BTC price, the gen1 chips will pull in a bit over twice the cost of electricity (for me at least, 7 cents/kwh).  The problem you stated is correct though, if the chips don't arrive in the next week or 2 tops, then we may never break even on cost of the actual hardware unless difficulty levels out or BTC price rises.

Even at difficulty of 500mil and no change in BTC price, the gen1 chips will pull in a bit over twice the cost of electricity (for me at least, 7 cents/kwh).  The problem you stated is correct though, if the chips don't arrive in the next week or 2 tops, then we may never break even on cost of the actual hardware unless difficulty levels out or BTC price rises.