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August 13, 2013, 07:00:31 AM
anyone naive enough to associate their real name with any significant bitcoin operation will be unpleasantly surprised.  Bitcoin is completely incompatible with modern western banking and legal systems. 

I would say

 Bitcoin is completely incompatible with banking and legal systems. 

instead
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August 12, 2013, 08:29:45 PM
More news coming!

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August 12, 2013, 08:09:25 PM
wow I read both pages on their socalled flipboard site - all I can say is womp womp!!!!!  all you silly dummies that said "group buy group buy!"  all just got fucked...spamming this elsewhere now.
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August 12, 2013, 07:06:57 PM
Another Tidbit: nothing to do with yifu or avalon

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP74746148a3f345cfbf5b81767f6022bd.html?KEYWORDS=bitcoin

are the walls closing in?

This has everything to do with Yifu and Avalon.

The guy who wrote the article is the same guy that was burnt in last weeks article by their unscrupulous PR exercise. He sounds pretty pissed off about Bitcoin scams and would probably love to know the truth behind why he became part of one and was slipped false info...
Here we go! don't see bitsyncom mentioned.... Bloomberg: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-12/new-york-subpoenas-bitcoin-firms-in-probe-over-criminal-risk


In addition to BitInstant, Dwolla and Coinsetter, the regulator sent subpoenas to the following service providers: BitPay, Coinabul, Coinbase Inc., CoinLab, eCoin Cashier, Payward, Inc., TrustCash Holdings Inc. and ZipZap, the person said.

Butterfly Labs, a technology company, also received a subpoena, according to the person familiar with the matter.

Christina Hirsch, a spokeswoman for Winklevoss, declined to comment. Margit Wennmachers, a spokeswoman for Andreessen Horowitz, said the firm did not receive a subpoena. Bloomberg LP is an investor in Andreessen Horowitz.

In addition to Winklevoss Capital and Andreessen Horowitz, DFS sent subpoenas to the following investor groups: Bitcoin Opportunity Fund, Boost VC Bitcoin Fund, Founders Fund, Google Ventures, Lightspeed Venture Partners, Tribeca Venture Partners, Tropos Funds and Union Square Ventures, the person said
.

Reeling in all the big names?

anyone naive enough to associate their real name with any significant bitcoin operation will be unpleasantly surprised.  Bitcoin is completely incompatible with modern western banking and legal systems.  
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August 12, 2013, 06:48:33 PM


Keep'r on track boys!
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August 12, 2013, 06:43:06 PM
So YiFu is going to start us down the road of having to resort to government agencies to regulate bitcoin. Instead of being a man, honoring his promises and protecting his customers; he will hide behind the irreversibility and anonymity of bitcoin. Legal action will be required and bitcoin WILL BE regulated in some manner.
Congrats YiFu!! You have forced those who use bitcoin legitimately to show the world that those entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin cannot be trusted to use it legitimately. Great job, this will endear everyone to use bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

I don't think Yifu is the one starting legal action or calling the WSJ.

I do think he jumped to a conclusion (as the WSJ article didn't mention Avalon/Bitsyncom, but did mention others).

However, it seems clear to me that bitocoiner49er meant that Yifu's misdeeds require outside (i.e. government) help to rectify the situation--not that he was pursuing these things. Did you pretended to misunderstand him?
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August 12, 2013, 05:44:22 PM
Another Tidbit: nothing to do with yifu or avalon

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP74746148a3f345cfbf5b81767f6022bd.html?KEYWORDS=bitcoin

are the walls closing in?

This has everything to do with Yifu and Avalon.

The guy who wrote the article is the same guy that was burnt in last weeks article by their unscrupulous PR exercise. He sounds pretty pissed off about Bitcoin scams and would probably love to know the truth behind why he became part of one and was slipped false info...
Here we go! don't see bitsyncom mentioned.... Bloomberg:


In addition to BitInstant, Dwolla and Coinsetter, the regulator sent subpoenas to the following service providers: BitPay, Coinabul, Coinbase Inc., CoinLab, eCoin Cashier, Payward, Inc., TrustCash Holdings Inc. and ZipZap, the person said.

Butterfly Labs, a technology company, also received a subpoena, according to the person familiar with the matter.



 What ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-12/n-y-regulator-subpoenas-firms-over-bitcoin-crime-risks.html

 Well goddamn...
legendary
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August 12, 2013, 05:40:18 PM
Another Tidbit: nothing to do with yifu or avalon

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP74746148a3f345cfbf5b81767f6022bd.html?KEYWORDS=bitcoin

are the walls closing in?

This has everything to do with Yifu and Avalon.

The guy who wrote the article is the same guy that was burnt in last weeks article by their unscrupulous PR exercise. He sounds pretty pissed off about Bitcoin scams and would probably love to know the truth behind why he became part of one and was slipped false info...
Here we go! don't see bitsyncom mentioned.... Bloomberg: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-08-12/new-york-subpoenas-bitcoin-firms-in-probe-over-criminal-risk


In addition to BitInstant, Dwolla and Coinsetter, the regulator sent subpoenas to the following service providers: BitPay, Coinabul, Coinbase Inc., CoinLab, eCoin Cashier, Payward, Inc., TrustCash Holdings Inc. and ZipZap, the person said.

Butterfly Labs, a technology company, also received a subpoena, according to the person familiar with the matter.

Christina Hirsch, a spokeswoman for Winklevoss, declined to comment. Margit Wennmachers, a spokeswoman for Andreessen Horowitz, said the firm did not receive a subpoena. Bloomberg LP is an investor in Andreessen Horowitz.

In addition to Winklevoss Capital and Andreessen Horowitz, DFS sent subpoenas to the following investor groups: Bitcoin Opportunity Fund, Boost VC Bitcoin Fund, Founders Fund, Google Ventures, Lightspeed Venture Partners, Tribeca Venture Partners, Tropos Funds and Union Square Ventures, the person said
.

Reeling in all the big names?
legendary
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August 12, 2013, 05:33:23 PM
Another Tidbit: nothing to do with yifu or avalon

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP74746148a3f345cfbf5b81767f6022bd.html?KEYWORDS=bitcoin

are the walls closing in?

This has everything to do with Yifu and Avalon.

The guy who wrote the article is the same guy that was burnt in last weeks article by their unscrupulous PR exercise. He sounds pretty pissed off about Bitcoin scams and would probably love to know the truth behind why he became part of one and was slipped false info...
ahha I see said the blind man",,,,do you think one of those subpoenas was for yifu/bitsyncom? it didn't say who, i dont think...
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August 12, 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Another Tidbit: nothing to do with yifu or avalon

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP74746148a3f345cfbf5b81767f6022bd.html?KEYWORDS=bitcoin

are the walls closing in?

This has everything to do with Yifu and Avalon.

The guy who wrote the article is the same guy that was burnt in last weeks article by their unscrupulous PR exercise. He sounds pretty pissed off about Bitcoin scams and would probably love to know the truth behind why he became part of one and was slipped false info...
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August 12, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
Man fuck this drama, I just want my refund.
legendary
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August 12, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
Another Tidbit: nothing to do with yifu or avalon

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP74746148a3f345cfbf5b81767f6022bd.html?KEYWORDS=bitcoin

are the walls closing in?
legendary
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August 12, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
So YiFu is going to start us down the road of having to resort to government agencies to regulate bitcoin. Instead of being a man, honoring his promises and protecting his customers; he will hide behind the irreversibility and anonymity of bitcoin. Legal action will be required and bitcoin WILL BE regulated in some manner.
Congrats YiFu!! You have forced those who use bitcoin legitimately to show the world that those entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin cannot be trusted to use it legitimately. Great job, this will endear everyone to use bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

I don't think Yifu is the one starting legal action or calling the WSJ.



Dumbest response I've ever read.
Hey I like your new picture! where did you find it? lol,,, Smiley
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August 12, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
Might be a good idea to contact http://www.teribuhl.com as well.

Teri Buhl is actually pretty awesome and was looking into the WSJ clusterf**k from an investigative journalism stance, she would love to hear about this. She hates ex-Lehman's banksters as well. Grin

Agreed, she has guts! A really awesome lady.
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August 12, 2013, 09:35:48 AM
So YiFu is going to start us down the road of having to resort to government agencies to regulate bitcoin. Instead of being a man, honoring his promises and protecting his customers; he will hide behind the irreversibility and anonymity of bitcoin. Legal action will be required and bitcoin WILL BE regulated in some manner.
Congrats YiFu!! You have forced those who use bitcoin legitimately to show the world that those entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin cannot be trusted to use it legitimately. Great job, this will endear everyone to use bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

I don't think Yifu is the one starting legal action or calling the WSJ.



Dumbest response I've ever read.
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August 12, 2013, 09:34:42 AM
Might be a good idea to contact http://www.teribuhl.com as well.

Teri Buhl is actually pretty awesome and was looking into the WSJ clusterf**k from an investigative journalism stance, she would love to hear about this. She hates ex-Lehman's banksters as well. Grin
legendary
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August 12, 2013, 09:33:49 AM
So YiFu is going to start us down the road of having to resort to government agencies to regulate bitcoin. Instead of being a man, honoring his promises and protecting his customers; he will hide behind the irreversibility and anonymity of bitcoin. Legal action will be required and bitcoin WILL BE regulated in some manner.
Congrats YiFu!! You have forced those who use bitcoin legitimately to show the world that those entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin cannot be trusted to use it legitimately. Great job, this will endear everyone to use bitcoin.  Roll Eyes

I don't think Yifu is the one starting legal action or calling the WSJ.

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August 12, 2013, 09:32:53 AM
Might be a good idea to contact http://www.teribuhl.com as well.
sr. member
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August 12, 2013, 09:31:19 AM
So YiFu is going to start us down the road of having to resort to government agencies to regulate bitcoin. Instead of being a man, honoring his promises and protecting his customers; he will hide behind the irreversibility and anonymity of bitcoin. Legal action will be required and bitcoin WILL BE regulated in some manner.
Congrats YiFu!! You have forced those who use bitcoin legitimately to show the world that those entrusted with large amounts of bitcoin cannot be trusted to use it legitimately. Great job, this will endear everyone to use bitcoin.  Roll Eyes
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August 12, 2013, 09:14:53 AM
One very, very p*ssed off journalist will happily help you guys out after being made a mug of last week. Robin Sidel was the journalist duped by Avalon and the ex-Lehman bankster;

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The Wall Street Journal
TECHNOLOGY
Updated August 11, 2013, 10:11 p.m. ET

Regulator Examines Bitcoin Practices
New York Issues Subpoenas to Firms Tied to Bitcoin.
By ROBIN SIDEL

New York's top banking regulator has issued subpoenas to roughly two dozen companies associated with bitcoin as part of a wide-ranging inquiry into the business practices of the fledgling virtual-currency industry, according to people familiar with the matter.

The subpoenas, from the New York Department of Financial Services, seek information on a range of topics, including antimoney-laundering programs, consumer-protection measures and investment strategies, according to the people..

Subpoenas were sent to firms backed by high-profile Bitcoin investors such as Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss.

The department, led by Benjamin Lawsky, also plans on Monday to issue a memo expressing concern that virtual-currency companies aren't complying with the state's money-transmission laws. As a result, the state is considering setting new guidelines that are specifically aimed at virtual currencies.

"We believe that—for a number of reasons—putting in place appropriate regulatory safeguards for virtual currencies will be beneficial to the long-term strength of the virtual-currency industry," wrote Mr. Lawsky in a draft of the memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Companies that received subpoenas include some of the best-known names in the nascent industry, including Coinbase Inc., BitInstant and Coinsetter.

Executives from Coinbase and BitInstant couldn't be reached for comment on Sunday. Jaron Lukasiewicz, chief executive of Coinsetter, said in an email that the information request is "an opportunity for companies in our space to open up a much needed dialogue with regulators."

He added, "They'll quickly find that most companies are working to legitimize Bitcoin and want to build bridges that help regulators understand and support these financial innovations."

The state agency also sent subpoenas to companies backed by high-profile Bitcoin investors, including venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, and twins Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss, who are best known for battling Mark Zuckerberg over ownership of Facebook Inc. FB -0.10% Mr. Andreessen and the Winklevoss brothers couldn't be reached for comment on Sunday.

Bitcoin, the best-known of a crop of virtual currencies, are created in a computer process called "mining." They also can be traded on a number of exchanges or swapped privately among users. Most bitcoin are traded on a Tokyo-based exchange called Mt. Gox, where one bitcoin was valued Friday at roughly $102.

A subpoena is a legal demand for information and doesn't signal wrongdoing by the recipient. The New York banking department sent the subpoenas late last week, according to the people familiar with the matter.

The subpoenas come amid heightened scrutiny from state and federal regulators into the world of virtual currencies. Because virtual currencies aren't backed by a central government like traditional ones are, regulators are worried they can be used for illegal activity or can violate laws involving money transmission.

Federal regulators earlier this year issued guidelines placing virtual-currency exchanges under the same comprehensive antimoney-laundering requirements as traditional money-transmission businesses such as Western Union Co.

Although a growing number of bitcoin exchanges have registered their businesses with the U.S. Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, they have moved more slowly at the state level. In part, that is because the process of getting a license in each of the 48 states that require them is complicated and lengthy. In addition, states also typically require companies to put up a bond that could run as much as several million dollars.

New York has been one of a handful of states aggressively examining the industry. Mr. Lawsky has assembled a team to assess the issue and already sent a warning letter to BitInstant, a New York company that allows customers to buy and sell bitcoins.

"If virtual currencies remain a virtual Wild West for narcotraffickers and other criminals, that would not only threaten our country's national security, but also the very existence of the virtual currency industry as a legitimate business enterprise," according to the memo.

The round of subpoenas also are aimed at gleaning information about how the companies are dealing with individual investors who may be attracted to the novelty of virtual currencies, but may not be sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with them.

Write to  Robin Sidel at [email protected]
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