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March 22, 2024, 10:07:12 AM
Royal Challengers Bangalore opener Virat Kohli and Faf du Plessis batted brilliantly but Faf du Plessis was dismissed by Mustafizur Rahman of Chennai Super Kings. After that, Royal Challenger Bangalore was under a bit of pressure and the Bangalore batsmen are now under a lot of pressure after losing two wickets in a row. Chennai Super Kings bowlers are bowling very well. Mostafizur Rahman in particular bowled brilliantly. Meanwhile, Mustafizur Rahman took two important wickets of Royal Challenger Bangalore by bowling one over. Royal Challenger Bengal's current score is 48 runs for three wickets in 7 overs. Royal Challengers Bangalore currently looks like if Virat Kohli can bat well then Royal Challengers Bangalore can score 170 runs. Let's see how many runs Chennai Super Kings bowlers can restrict Royal Challengers Bangalore to.
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March 22, 2024, 07:31:43 AM

Dhoni relinquishes CSK captaincy, Gaikwad to lead

Just a day before the season there is a big news coming up regarding the captaincy change from the most successful franchise. I wonder will this transition work?

Because they already tried this couple of years with Jaddu and Dhoni came back as captain again cause Jaddu failed to provide results and the extra pressure also affected in his performances.

This Friday is going to be an awesome day in 2024 as you can see Virat Kohli vs Mahindra Singh Dhoni to play against each other and 1,718 days before we have seen Mahindra Singh Dhoni batting for the last time at International.
Guptill directly hit at the stumps and Dhoni was run out. When he was out in the first match of his career then he was also run out. At that time, no one cared about him but at the last match, everyone remembered that and could not be forgotten easily. Now we are just seeing him play for just a month in a year for yellow jersey  Wink

Before the start of the first IPL match between Chennai Super Kings and Royal Challengers Bangalore , it is good to see the odds and predict who can win this match.

Chennai Super Kings odds: 1.8

Royal Challengers Bangalore odds: 2.05



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March 21, 2024, 06:38:03 AM

Dhoni relinquishes CSK captaincy, Gaikwad to lead

Just a day before the season there is a big news coming up regarding the captaincy change from the most successful franchise. I wonder will this transition work?

Because they already tried this couple of years with Jaddu and Dhoni came back as captain again cause Jaddu failed to provide results and the extra pressure also affected in his performances.
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March 21, 2024, 03:50:26 AM
The Next season of IPL is just around the corner. Just 2 days are left to see the magical league where we will see all the stars that come there from all over the World.  The first match will be hosted by Chennai. By the way, still, that is not fixed. Then I searched on Google but there is nothing
Thanks OP for activate this thread again for discuss about IPL season of 2024 where the first match of Chennai Super Kings vs Royal Challengers Bengaluru, is going to start tomorrow but I was excited enough and was searching for IPL thread to discuss and finally found this one. I found that this match will be played at MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai.
MS dhoni will lead chennai super kings where we will see many legends including Ajinkya Rahane, Rachin Ravindra, Ravindra Jadeja, Moeen Ali and many more. Similarly Faf du Plessis will leads Royal Challengers Bengaluru where legend like king Kohli, Dinesh Karthik, Glenn Maxwell, Mohammed Siraj and are in the squads. Both team seems having strong squads what will make this match more interesting.
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March 20, 2024, 11:47:13 AM
This brother praised Dhoni's captaincy a lot, but he is a captain worthy of praise. Chennai Super Kings did not have any quality players. Still played well with many big teams due to his skillful captaincy if we talk about the final match there Gujarat titans played very well only because of Dhoni's skillful captaincy CSK reached the final in 2023 and won the trophy. While the IPL was going on, it was rumored that this would be Dhoni's last IPL, but keeping his fan following in mind, he might play another IPL. If he plays in IPL 2024 then we will look forward to see better captaincy from him. And the audience will surely enjoy his game too, best of luck to him.
In the final of IPL the match was shown at the Gujarat ground. But CSK's fan followers were more than Gujarat Titans in the gallery. The reason that comes first is the audience's love for Dhoni. Due to his popularity, the number of supporters in the whole team is increased significantly. If next year is Dhoni's last IPL, then every match of CSK will attract the attention of the viewers and audience. Cricket lovers will want to remember the last few days of the much-loved player's cricket for the rest of their lives. Dhoni is an example of how a captain's skill and experience can lead a team to get desire position even though CSK is a weaker team than Gujarat.

The Next season of IPL is just around the corner. Just 2 days are left to see the magical league where we will see all the stars that come there from all over the World.

The first match will be hosted by Chennai. By the way, still, that is not fixed. In Cricinfo I have not seen any final or Semi-final place then I searched on Google but there is nothing but I think it will be hosted by Ahmedabad because that is the wonderful stadium in India where capacity is more than 1 lack. It was a place where the last final was played and the whole country came to see Dhoni batting but at that time Dhoni was out on a duck.
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June 22, 2023, 09:57:49 PM
There is actually no need to keep the test format as an active format of cricket, to be honest. No one is interested in this format and the teams are also not interested in playing test cricket anymore. At the same time test cricket is not something with which cricket is going to spread throughout the world as well. So I think this cricket is just a waste of time. There is no reason for only four teams to keep playing a format of cricket that no one actually cares about anymore. I honestly don’t think that the people who actually loved test cricket truly, even they actually care about this cricket anymore.

Actually I agree with this argument. Test cricket generates only a fraction of the revenue when compared to ODI and T20I cricket. And it is competitive only when the pig-4 plays against each other (Ashes, BGT and Trans-Tasman Trophy are the ones that generate maximum interest). When other teams are involved, the matches are lop-sided and hardly anyone watches them. But the traditionalists want boards to give more importance to this format, and the teams to play more test matches. My opinion is that teams outside the pig-4 should not play more than 3-4 test matches per year.
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June 22, 2023, 02:30:43 PM

Apart from the pig-4, I guess Pakistan and South Africa also have the ability to play test cricket in a competent way. But still I don't know whether they will be able to form separate squads for test format and limited overs format. Anyway, apart from these 6 teams, I don't think that any of the other nations are capable of staying competent and playing consistently in test format. And there is no point in having meaningless one-sided matches, such as Australia vs Bangladesh, or India vs Sri Lanka. These smaller countries should concentrate on limited overs cricket.

There is actually no need to keep the test format as an active format of cricket, to be honest. No one is interested in this format and the teams are also not interested in playing test cricket anymore. At the same time test cricket is not something with which cricket is going to spread throughout the world as well. So I think this cricket is just a waste of time. There is no reason for only four teams to keep playing a format of cricket that no one actually cares about anymore. I honestly don’t think that the people who actually loved test cricket truly, even they actually care about this cricket anymore.
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June 21, 2023, 09:20:51 PM
If that is the case, then only probably the top four teams will be able to play test cricket. I don’t think there is any necessity for a different cricket format just for four countries to play. And my argument is that if people are only watching these four teams playing test cricket, either the other teams have to get better very quickly. Or there is no need for this format at all. I know a lot of people still watch test cricket. But that is a minority of the population that actually watches cricket. People don’t even watch one day international matches for seven hours now, let alone test cricket.

Apart from the pig-4, I guess Pakistan and South Africa also have the ability to play test cricket in a competent way. But still I don't know whether they will be able to form separate squads for test format and limited overs format. Anyway, apart from these 6 teams, I don't think that any of the other nations are capable of staying competent and playing consistently in test format. And there is no point in having meaningless one-sided matches, such as Australia vs Bangladesh, or India vs Sri Lanka. These smaller countries should concentrate on limited overs cricket.
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June 21, 2023, 01:30:53 PM

Why don't they absolutely get rid of the test format? I think it would be better for almost every team and also for the future of cricket. It is just a waste of time at this point. Even the Ashes series is not very interesting. I know there is going to be some protest if they absolutely get rid of test cricket. But I believe those people who will protest to keep test cricket as a format, won’t actually watch a test cricket match for the whole five days themselves.
Well...

Those who can't form separate squads (such as Ireland and Sri Lanka) doesn't deserve to play test cricket.

If that is the case, then only probably the top four teams will be able to play test cricket. I don’t think there is any necessity for a different cricket format just for four countries to play. And my argument is that if people are only watching these four teams playing test cricket, either the other teams have to get better very quickly. Or there is no need for this format at all. I know a lot of people still watch test cricket. But that is a minority of the population that actually watches cricket. People don’t even watch one day international matches for seven hours now, let alone test cricket.
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June 21, 2023, 05:15:10 AM
Agreed, and the WTC final could've been played in similar style same as the first ashes series test match between Australia and England. Till the end England fought to win the match and lost it by 2 wickets and 27 balls left. India lost the match very badly. The match went upto the 5th day's 1st session, but they weren't able to make it atleast to the last session of the match. As mentioned the players have begun to give importance to the franchise cricket over the team playing for the country.
WTC final were completely in different scene from The Ashes as English players were playing in counties and have good practice with many Australians were also in same situation with few were coming from IPL, but mostly Indians were coming from IPL with no practice and no time for any game before this final which was surely big problem for them, and they lost this final so poorly.

Now in this first game we have good fight from both sides, and they have done good end with just 2 wickets left in Australian inning, and they achieve their winning target which is good for them, and now they are leading against home side hopefully things could be much better in second match which is going to start after one week.
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June 20, 2023, 09:22:29 PM

Why don't they absolutely get rid of the test format? I think it would be better for almost every team and also for the future of cricket. It is just a waste of time at this point. Even the Ashes series is not very interesting. I know there is going to be some protest if they absolutely get rid of test cricket. But I believe those people who will protest to keep test cricket as a format, won’t actually watch a test cricket match for the whole five days themselves.

Well... I think we have already discussed about it a few times. Test format for sure is not as popular as T20Is. But there is a significant section of the cricket fans who still want to watch test cricket. Even I watched the first Ashes test for a few hours yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed the way Australia managed to win. But then, you can't ask the same players to participate in all the formats. That is why I have always argued for separate squads for test and limited overs format. Teams like India and Australia can do this (the Indian players don't want separate squads though). Those who can't form separate squads (such as Ireland and Sri Lanka) doesn't deserve to play test cricket.
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June 20, 2023, 03:50:15 PM
First, I thought probably did you not want to give test cricket too much importance. But after that, I thought if they did not want to give test cricket too much importance they would have done that from the start. They have failed in the most important test match of the year. Part is they have failed so miserably but they are still not worried about it. I believe the selection should be controlled by the coaches now. Because the players are basically screwing up the selection process by having power in their hands. They are obviously choosing players by having an influence of favoritism inside them. And of course, the players have to be held accountable for their bad performance.

As a matter of fact, I am not a big fan of test cricket. But still, I would argue that players who are not interested in test cricket should not be a part of the test squad. While watching the WTC final, this was the impression that I got from the Indian players. It seemed as if they are paying just for the sake of it. The aggression and commitment that these same players were showing while participating in the IPL a few weeks ago was suddenly missing when they were playing against Australia at the Oval. In fact they looked quite happy when the match was over.
Agreed, and the WTC final could've been played in similar style same as the first ashes series test match between Australia and England. Till the end England fought to win the match and lost it by 2 wickets and 27 balls left. India lost the match very badly. The match went upto the 5th day's 1st session, but they weren't able to make it atleast to the last session of the match. As mentioned the players have begun to give importance to the franchise cricket over the team playing for the country.
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June 20, 2023, 03:04:35 PM
First, I thought probably did you not want to give test cricket too much importance. But after that, I thought if they did not want to give test cricket too much importance they would have done that from the start. They have failed in the most important test match of the year. Part is they have failed so miserably but they are still not worried about it. I believe the selection should be controlled by the coaches now. Because the players are basically screwing up the selection process by having power in their hands. They are obviously choosing players by having an influence of favoritism inside them. And of course, the players have to be held accountable for their bad performance.

As a matter of fact, I am not a big fan of test cricket. But still, I would argue that players who are not interested in test cricket should not be a part of the test squad. While watching the WTC final, this was the impression that I got from the Indian players. It seemed as if they are paying just for the sake of it. The aggression and commitment that these same players were showing while participating in the IPL a few weeks ago was suddenly missing when they were playing against Australia at the Oval. In fact they looked quite happy when the match was over.

I could see that they did not give enough importance to the WTC final. And I don’t know why it felt like they had somewhere to go because the whole Indian team was always in a hurry. When the Indian team batted in their first innings, it felt like they were in a hurry.

Yeah, now things are going to be divided for the two formats like we will have white-ball and red-ball here things are tricky for the boards because they need to have few players set for the red-ball which give their best even across conditions and also have good first class practice which give them good amount of money and white-ball players just need to be settled in this format which will create good body language and success.
 
We're already having too many issues in different boards and white-ball is now also main source of income for the players and boards, so they need to reduce teams in red-ball and have two teams in all boards which will surely burden still a good way to stay in competition and increase quality level in WTC for the future. Having just 6 to 8 teams in red-ball format and going with 16 to 20 teams into white-ball will give better results and involvement from players as well.

Why don't they absolutely get rid of the test format? I think it would be better for almost every team and also for the future of cricket. It is just a waste of time at this point. Even the Ashes series is not very interesting. I know there is going to be some protest if they absolutely get rid of test cricket. But I believe those people who will protest to keep test cricket as a format, won’t actually watch a test cricket match for the whole five days themselves.
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June 20, 2023, 10:43:00 AM
As a matter of fact, I am not a big fan of test cricket. But still, I would argue that players who are not interested in test cricket should not be a part of the test squad. While watching the WTC final, this was the impression that I got from the Indian players. It seemed as if they are paying just for the sake of it. The aggression and commitment that these same players were showing while participating in the IPL a few weeks ago was suddenly missing when they were playing against Australia at the Oval. In fact they looked quite happy when the match was over.
Yeah, now things are going to be divided for the two formats like we will have white-ball and red-ball here things are tricky for the boards because they need to have few players set for the red-ball which give their best even across conditions and also have good first class practice which give them good amount of money and white-ball players just need to be settled in this format which will create good body language and success.
 
We're already having too many issues in different boards and white-ball is now also main source of income for the players and boards, so they need to reduce teams in red-ball and have two teams in all boards which will surely burden still a good way to stay in competition and increase quality level in WTC for the future. Having just 6 to 8 teams in red-ball format and going with 16 to 20 teams into white-ball will give better results and involvement from players as well.

@sithara007 except Rahane and Pujara none of the playing 11 really cares for the Test match format and even these two tend to underperform a lot hence it’s high time that a separate test specialist squad is created for team India. Furthermore the Indian test team needs a new strategy as the current squad is ineffective and their plan’s won’t yield any positive results especially in the test match format.
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June 20, 2023, 10:29:30 AM
As a matter of fact, I am not a big fan of test cricket. But still, I would argue that players who are not interested in test cricket should not be a part of the test squad. While watching the WTC final, this was the impression that I got from the Indian players. It seemed as if they are paying just for the sake of it. The aggression and commitment that these same players were showing while participating in the IPL a few weeks ago was suddenly missing when they were playing against Australia at the Oval. In fact they looked quite happy when the match was over.
Yeah, now things are going to be divided for the two formats like we will have white-ball and red-ball here things are tricky for the boards because they need to have few players set for the red-ball which give their best even across conditions and also have good first class practice which give them good amount of money and white-ball players just need to be settled in this format which will create good body language and success.
 
We're already having too many issues in different boards and white-ball is now also main source of income for the players and boards, so they need to reduce teams in red-ball and have two teams in all boards which will surely burden still a good way to stay in competition and increase quality level in WTC for the future. Having just 6 to 8 teams in red-ball format and going with 16 to 20 teams into white-ball will give better results and involvement from players as well.
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June 19, 2023, 10:16:47 PM
First, I thought probably did you not want to give test cricket too much importance. But after that, I thought if they did not want to give test cricket too much importance they would have done that from the start. They have failed in the most important test match of the year. Part is they have failed so miserably but they are still not worried about it. I believe the selection should be controlled by the coaches now. Because the players are basically screwing up the selection process by having power in their hands. They are obviously choosing players by having an influence of favoritism inside them. And of course, the players have to be held accountable for their bad performance.

As a matter of fact, I am not a big fan of test cricket. But still, I would argue that players who are not interested in test cricket should not be a part of the test squad. While watching the WTC final, this was the impression that I got from the Indian players. It seemed as if they are paying just for the sake of it. The aggression and commitment that these same players were showing while participating in the IPL a few weeks ago was suddenly missing when they were playing against Australia at the Oval. In fact they looked quite happy when the match was over.
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June 16, 2023, 11:36:32 PM
I believe the selection of any team is best made with the players and coaches working together. But it doesn’t work when there is a certain amount of favoritism/nepotism going on. The Indian team has a lot of players absolutely ready to replace someone who does not perform well. But I agree that recently we are watching players who are not performing as well as they are expected, but still getting more chances. That is not fair to the players who are waiting on the sideline for a chance to prove themselves.
We have also seen that Virat Kohli was not performing well at all for a long period of time. But he still got chance after chance. I would even say that proper conditions for him were created so that he can find his form. Very few players can have the luxury of this type.
There is no accountability from the players and that is one of the reasons why India has performed poorly in ICC tournaments despite having some of the best players. For example, despite their pathetic display during the 2023 ICC World Test Championship final, no action was taken against the players who performed poorly. Cheteshwar Pujara failed once again, but no one will have the courage to drop him from the squad. One of the reasons why India lost was the blunder in team selection, where Umesh Yadav was preferred instead of Ravichandran Ashwin. But again, none of this is being discussed.

First, I thought probably did you not want to give test cricket too much importance. But after that, I thought if they did not want to give test cricket too much importance they would have done that from the start. They have failed in the most important test match of the year. Part is they have failed so miserably but they are still not worried about it. I believe the selection should be controlled by the coaches now. Because the players are basically screwing up the selection process by having power in their hands. They are obviously choosing players by having an influence of favoritism inside them. And of course, the players have to be held accountable for their bad performance.
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@Sithara007 I totally agree with you and I felt that BCCI could have planned better and could have asked th player’s to prepare for this final but surprisingly there was no such directive from them and in the end team India lost another final. Lastly team India needs a new young dynamic captain who’s keen to play for the nation first and unless they get such a leader I doubt that they’ll win an ICC tournament anytime soon.
At this point, Kohli and his cronies such as Rohit control the team selection. This need to be changed. Rahul Dravid as the coach hasn't been able to do much against the senior players. There is no accountability within the Indian team and players are retained despite not performing for years on the trot. Players who doesn't have the support from this cabal, such as T Natarajan and Venkatesh Iyer are often overlooked for selection, while undeserving players are selected just because of their closeness to Kohli. Unless this system is changed, India is not going to win any of the ICC tournaments anytime soon.
With living into India you have better review about this all because I was thinking BCCI and selectors are having enough power to settle things but as you already describe senior players are having much influence on selection which is surely never been good for any team and India which is surely having enough pool of players with their domestic system is also providing them good support things like this surely not good because they need to have good backup on their bench for the long run strategy and many players are already under their system which can give them good results in red ball and white ball formats, but they are still facing issues like this mean it's long way to go for them to have team like Australia which is surely having greater system and backups even they also have failures and other problems, but there is no players power which have any impact on them and their system.
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June 15, 2023, 10:20:07 PM
I believe the selection of any team is best made with the players and coaches working together. But it doesn’t work when there is a certain amount of favoritism/nepotism going on. The Indian team has a lot of players absolutely ready to replace someone who does not perform well. But I agree that recently we are watching players who are not performing as well as they are expected, but still getting more chances. That is not fair to the players who are waiting on the sideline for a chance to prove themselves.

We have also seen that Virat Kohli was not performing well at all for a long period of time. But he still got chance after chance. I would even say that proper conditions for him were created so that he can find his form. Very few players can have the luxury of this type.

There is no accountability from the players and that is one of the reasons why India has performed poorly in ICC tournaments despite having some of the best players. For example, despite their pathetic display during the 2023 ICC World Test Championship final, no action was taken against the players who performed poorly. Cheteshwar Pujara failed once again, but no one will have the courage to drop him from the squad. One of the reasons why India lost was the blunder in team selection, where Umesh Yadav was preferred instead of Ravichandran Ashwin. But again, none of this is being discussed.
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June 15, 2023, 01:18:01 PM
@Sithara007 I totally agree with you and I felt that BCCI could have planned better and could have asked th player’s to prepare for this final but surprisingly there was no such directive from them and in the end team India lost another final. Lastly team India needs a new young dynamic captain who’s keen to play for the nation first and unless they get such a leader I doubt that they’ll win an ICC tournament anytime soon.
At this point, Kohli and his cronies such as Rohit control the team selection. This need to be changed. Rahul Dravid as the coach hasn't been able to do much against the senior players. There is no accountability within the Indian team and players are retained despite not performing for years on the trot. Players who doesn't have the support from this cabal, such as T Natarajan and Venkatesh Iyer are often overlooked for selection, while undeserving players are selected just because of their closeness to Kohli. Unless this system is changed, India is not going to win any of the ICC tournaments anytime soon.

I believe the selection of any team is best made with the players and coaches working together. But it doesn’t work when there is a certain amount of favoritism/nepotism going on. The Indian team has a lot of players absolutely ready to replace someone who does not perform well. But I agree that recently we are watching players who are not performing as well as they are expected, but still getting more chances. That is not fair to the players who are waiting on the sideline for a chance to prove themselves.

We have also seen that Virat Kohli was not performing well at all for a long period of time. But he still got chance after chance. I would even say that proper conditions for him were created so that he can find his form. Very few players can have the luxury of this type.
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