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legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
June 28, 2023, 07:56:13 AM
I started a thread in Investigation to get the ball rolling on suing Yogg in France by a french victim.
Unsure to where it will go, but if people are wiling to assist with their time (no financial support is asked) you can find the thread here :

Starting a thread,


PS : unsure if I've use the right board (investigation) to do my thread  and/or if it is allowed.
I am asking for Moderator's forgiveness if i didn't follow the proper rules.

I believe there are also other threads in investigations on this matter - might be good to link those into yours as well.

I had approx .75 BTC invested into coldkey via cards bought, loads, prepayment for cards never delivered and for a loan made directly to coldkey.

While there is a refund pool, it is not enough to barely pay half of what I lost and I am, by far, not the biggest loser.

That said, I do not expect to ever see a full recovery of what I lost. I would like to see a refund for the loan and for the cards never delivered though.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
June 28, 2023, 07:19:44 AM
I started a thread in Investigation to get the ball rolling on suing Yogg in France by a french victim.
Unsure to where it will go, but if people are wiling to assist with their time (no financial support is asked) you can find the thread here :

Starting a thread,


PS : unsure if I've use the right board (investigation) to do my thread  and/or if it is allowed.
I am asking for Moderator's forgiveness if i didn't follow the proper rules.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 2014
June 28, 2023, 06:57:42 AM

Then, can i be included in the refund pool ?
I know it is 100% yogg fault, but were you not the CEO of coldkey at the time of the incident?

I am french, and will be going to France in August (not where the cards are).
I am aiming to officially file a complaint to the police about Yogg.  (depot de plainte).

Money will not be returned, he probably will not go to jail, but if criminal record will forever be tainted and it will make it hard for him to have a job or start a new business.  



If I am right its not 100% decided how to use the funds from the pool. Unfortunately, there are many victims of him..

cygan joined (or even bought into) Coldkey towards the end of 2022
A really, really gross move by yogg...  Angry cygan paid a big amount of BTC only to be attacked a short time later. This just goes to show what a disgusting and unlikable person Patrick (yogg) is.
I would strongly say that cygan was unaware of all the dealings and yogg had "good" uses for a new CEO in his plan.
So cygan got dragged into it unnecessarily.

But all of yogg's intentions are guesswork, he didn't have balls to make a statement. In reality, he lied to the people who have always been loyal to him.

What we do know is that all our funds on the coldkeys are gone.. Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
June 28, 2023, 06:49:33 AM
very well explained by seek3r.
especially since there is now also the refund pool and this should then be used exclusively for other victims (if the proof of ownership of the cards are available).
at that time this pool did not exist and i tried to keep the damage and also the emotions of the respective user as low as possible

Then, can i be included in the refund pool ?
I know it is 100% yogg fault, but were you not the CEO of coldkey at the time of the incident?

I am french, and will be going to France in August (not where the cards are).
I am aiming to officially file a complaint to the police about Yogg.  (depot de plainte).

Money will not be returned, he probably will not go to jail, but if criminal record will forever be tainted and it will make it hard for him to have a job or start a new business. 

legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 8633
Crypto Swap Exchange
June 28, 2023, 06:45:11 AM
very well explained by seek3r.
especially since there is now also the refund pool and this should then be used exclusively for other victims (if the proof of ownership of the cards are available).
at that time this pool did not exist and i tried to keep the damage and also the emotions of the respective user as low as possible
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 2014
June 28, 2023, 06:34:51 AM
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two post in a row, sorry, I just had to modify a [img] code to show message between me and cygan and didn't want to edit, as people are usually suspicious of edited message.

So sad and sorry to hear about ur loss but I guess that you will not get refunded.
cygan started to pay out of his own pockets when things got started.

At that time it was said that only the halving sets were affected and cygan then decided to refund them although he was not to blame for the matter.
That the whole thing then assumed such proportions was not necessarily clear.

So u can't blame cygan after it was already a significant amount that he paid for. That was very commendable, especially when u consider that he also took a big hit himself.

I'm really sorry for u but maybe you can still prove ownership of the halving cards.
I've only been back for a short time and saw that all my cards (and there were quite a few) were cleared by yogg too.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
June 28, 2023, 06:21:01 AM
Alright, so this my claim :

I claim that I own the following Cold key :



I have with me the card that say HOME, I've emptied them on  13th Jan 2023 once i was made aware of yogg activities.
(keep in mind that at this point, i hadn't connected or visited BBT in like over 1 year).


My claim is supported by :

1) a google spreadsheet created 17 mars 2022  The day i loaded all my card at the same time : 

[img width = 600 ]https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/28/SJxuv.png[/img]

I have removed my name, but just to show that I created a list of my card in march 2022, long before any YOGG suspicious activities.


2) a blockchain transaction loading all the cards i claim to own at the same time, on the day i created my spreadsheet.

Code:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/66cc4f379e9a72c8953b37811e618a90194a3eba8b3bc4326a0eb9a8e7a810cd


3) I have with me the 4 cards from my list 




4) i can actually sign a message from the adress that funded my card and the one emptied by Yogg.


(screenshot from electrum first)





Code:
Guigui371 owns this adress 

bc1qh0p9ntj5zn00682ycm9heh5a7z0faequvm7p3g

IFFSX4GZmwMhvR/m7DPKX3dsvWx6TwAZSv6PmTrgdEpaJMUAwfyMXKSt1bfhRf/1vi4OdmdDNvhlHE+HubP/Ghc=






So, no i don't have access to the card that yogg emptied, they are located 24h by plane from my current location and the cost to retrieve is about $6000 usd Plus about 4 days of my life ( 1 day in plane each way, one day to collect, and one day to recover from jet lag).

I was assured by Cygan that only the halving set were affected on January 14th 2023



(not that it matters too much, because even if he said that all cards were affected, it was and still not possible for me to go and retrieve the cards)

The reason why the cards were left behind after i moved was for them to become available when my children turn 18 (now 1 and 2) during a trip back to the country they were born (but not grew up).

It is only on 19th of June that i realised that yogg emptied more cards on april 23rd and that I contacted Cygan again.

Anyway, this is the end of my message, I may not have been the one impacted the most, but the 0.01 x 2 + 0.05 and 0.1 BTC lost (total is 0.17 BTC = USD $5,134) as well as one copper set (not on the list, and nothing to prove ownership) are of sentimental value to me as they would have been kept for 18 years.

So now, i'm asking to be considered for a full or partial refund based on the information shared above.




two post in a row, sorry, I just had to modify a [img] code to show message between me and cygan and didn't want to edit, as people are usually suspicious of edited message.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
June 28, 2023, 06:18:23 AM
Alright, so this my claim :

I claim that I own the following Cold key :



I have with me the card that say HOME, I've emptied them on  13th Jan 2023 once i was made aware of yogg activities.
(keep in mind that at this point, i hadn't connected or visited BBT in like over 1 year).


My claim is supported by :

1) a google spreadsheet created 17 mars 2022  The day i loaded all my card at the same time : 

[img width = 600 ]https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/28/SJxuv.png[/img]

I have removed my name, but just to show that I created a list of my card in march 2022, long before any YOGG suspicious activities.


2) a blockchain transaction loading all the cards i claim to own at the same time, on the day i created my spreadsheet.

Code:
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/66cc4f379e9a72c8953b37811e618a90194a3eba8b3bc4326a0eb9a8e7a810cd


3) I have with me the 4 cards from my list 




4) i can actually sign a message from the adress that funded my card and the one emptied by Yogg.


(screenshot from electrum first)





Code:
Guigui371 owns this adress 

bc1qh0p9ntj5zn00682ycm9heh5a7z0faequvm7p3g

IFFSX4GZmwMhvR/m7DPKX3dsvWx6TwAZSv6PmTrgdEpaJMUAwfyMXKSt1bfhRf/1vi4OdmdDNvhlHE+HubP/Ghc=






So, no i don't have access to the card that yogg emptied, they are located 24h by plane from my current location and the cost to retrieve is about $6000 usd Plus about 4 days of my life ( 1 day in plane each way, one day to collect, and one day to recover from jet lag).

I was assured by Cygan that only the halving set were affected on January 14th 2023

[img with = 400]https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/28/SVCuq.jpeg[/img]

(not that it matters too much, because even if he said that all cards were affected, it was and still not possible for me to go and retrieve the cards)

The reason why the cards were left behind after i moved was for them to become available when my children turn 18 (now 1 and 2) during a trip back to the country they were born (but not grew up).

It is only on 19th of June that i realised that yogg emptied more cards on april 23rd and that I contacted Cygan again.

Anyway, this is the end of my message, I may not have been the one impacted the most, but the 0.01 x 2 + 0.05 and 0.1 BTC lost (total is 0.17 BTC = USD $5,134) as well as one copper set (not on the list, and nothing to prove ownership) are of sentimental value to me as they would have been kept for 18 years.

So now, i'm asking to be considered for a full or partial refund based on the information shared above.


legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3238
The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
June 22, 2023, 02:55:41 PM
#99
I can't think of anyone I'd rather meet more than Patrick (yogg)

     You ain't the only one matey! Perhaps someday we can organize a trip to France and see the city of lights and how beautiful it is....never been to France except when I had to transfer flights at the airport....but never stepped outside.

    And we can also take some photos for the memories as well. I am sure we will have fun!
copper member
Activity: 288
Merit: 56
June 22, 2023, 02:33:49 AM
#98
I don't consider it important, especially when reading what everyone else lost, so just if anyone's keeping some sort of total tally he also got my 0,0065 BTC for a set of 3 personalized Bas Coldkeys. Were supposed to be finished last year in October, but I thought hey, I can wait, I can trust this guy  Roll Eyes

Again, just for info, not claiming anything...
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
June 21, 2023, 04:29:30 PM
#97
I can't think of anyone I'd rather meet than Patrick (yogg)

would love to meet him as well. between the undelivered cards, the loan and the bullshit - he needs an ass whoopin.
copper member
Activity: 1227
Merit: 250
June 21, 2023, 03:27:33 PM
#96
I can't think of anyone I'd rather meet more than Patrick (yogg)
full member
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June 21, 2023, 03:11:55 PM
#95
Agree, this pool to reimburse is a skamtastic disaster waiting to happen. Nothing against Cygan but the scammers that will come out of the woodwork and scoop up anything available. I really do hope all of you that experienced losses do get something in the end. I am licking my wounds and moving on, but small beans I'm sure compared to you Hookz.
I guarantee I lost more than anyone due to yoggs actions and I never recieved a single satoshi from the victim auction, and I will not accept anything from cygan (another victim with huge heart)
legendary
Activity: 2254
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EIN: 82-3893490
June 21, 2023, 02:21:25 PM
#94
I dont think anyone has received anything except from Cygan's direct pocket so far.
copper member
Activity: 1227
Merit: 250
June 21, 2023, 01:28:12 PM
#93
I guarantee I lost more than anyone due to yoggs actions and I never recieved a single satoshi from the victim auction, and I will not accept anything from cygan (another victim with huge heart)
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
June 21, 2023, 06:31:56 AM
#92

sending Cygan a message on telegram to work out a refund.

there is a refund pool (0.4003BTC) that was created by this auction at that time.
i would suggest that this pool should be used for other victims. but first i need some proofs (including pics) from you (via pm) about which series you are talking about here

Messaging you on telegram as we have now established communication and verified correlation between BTT user  / telegram user
legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 8633
Crypto Swap Exchange
June 21, 2023, 06:12:55 AM
#91

sending Cygan a message on telegram to work out a refund.

there is a refund pool (0.4003BTC) that was created by this auction at that time.
i would suggest that this pool should be used for other victims. but first i need some proofs (including pics) from you (via pm) about which series you are talking about here
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1693
C.D.P.E.M
June 21, 2023, 06:05:27 AM
#90
Hello,
It turns out that I am too affected.

One bronze set and then some buyer funded Gold / silver and normal ones.

sending Cygan a message on telegram to work out a refund.
full member
Activity: 792
Merit: 142
April 03, 2023, 08:42:59 AM
#89
Hey Community,

Evidently Yogg is not finished with his thievery.
I *had two funded Playtoshi's that were compromised today.
I knew the risk, took the chance, and got fucked - poor decision on my part.
Just wanted everyone to know that this lost shell of a human being is still up to his felonious bullshit.
Karma's a motherfucker...
hero member
Activity: 1820
Merit: 775
March 30, 2023, 04:16:27 PM
#88

And by the way, can some one please explain to me how do I implement exactly a picture with the "insert image"-funtion: [ img ] [ /img ] Huh

You can go here :  https://postimages.org

Example :
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