Topic: [INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread - page 111. (Read 85031 times)

Amazon has great prices, free delivery if a member of prime. ALSO get the card sleeves to put the cards in PRIOR to sliding them into the  top loader.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1GRLSA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

For retail packs, I see.  Added odds to OP. 

Look on the back of the pack of cards

Yes, that sounds correct to me. There should be one Hot Box per case of Hobby Boxes.

(Please take my two pennies and mixed metaphor with a grain of salt. I've only been doing this for a few days.)

Regards,
Me


EDIT: I need more coffee.

The extra large card on top? Yes, that's the over-sized hobby "box loader" card. The full size cards are the normal base size (2.5" x 3.5"), I believe.

And the parallel cards, I believe, are any non-standard, non-base cards, such as the Glossy Silver, various mini cards, etc. In other words, any series that runs parallel to (but not part of) the standard base cards.

Again, that's my understanding, at least.

Regards,
Me

Did your hobby box include a full size card?  When I watched a youtube video of a case break, each hobby box contained had an oversized card within the hobby box.  I was assuming this was that card.  But since it's a "hot box" parallel, it may be more limited than that. So what is the regular oversized card called? I'm confused as well.  

See video of case break at exact time where they find one of these common oversized cards "topper cards" in a hobby box: https://youtu.be/Otj9O-_Kkiw?t=3015


Same video, when they found an actual HOT box with the glossy/silver cards: https://youtu.be/Otj9O-_Kkiw?t=2527

Also, might these are the same card? Man, this collectible cards hobby is very confusing! LOL

Regards,
Chris

Are these the same card? I know that there is one "Hot Box" per case of Hobby Boxes, and the Hot Box is the same as all the other Hobby Boxes in the case, except that the base cards (full size) of the Hot Box have silver, glossy backgrounds. Plus, I've opened a normal (non-Hot Box) Hobby Box, and I did not find a "Full Size Hot Box Parallel" inside.

Please forgive my ignorance. I'm new to this trading card hobby.

Regards,
Me

@dolph do you have a source on these, or did you crunch them yourself based on projections?  They seem right but I haven't come across any stats in this list other than the black border 1:10 statistic.  Knowing odds of the very unique 1/1 and 1/25 stuff would indicate that we likely know the entire production run numbers. 

Here are a few ODDS: when opening packs with the anticipation of finding a rare card.  The following odds are for any card and not specific to #83 cryptocurrency.

Any black border card  1:10 packs

Any brooklyn back  #/25     1:330 packs


Any printing plate 1/1        1:1777 packs

Any no number  #/50          1: 166  packs

Any glossy  1/1            1: 8355 packs

We probably have turned some heads in the card collecting community.  Crypto collectors are not to be toyed with lol.

Notable eBay sale:

About 2 days ago there were about 60 in stock.  Guess someone grabbed the entire lot

Just read this in a current 2018 Topps A&G lot sale (Buy Now):

"Amazing lot of 27 non baseball celebrities and oddities. CRYPTOCURRENCY NO LONGER PART OF THIS LOT. Online exclusive sold out product."


They're on to us, Fattcatt!

Regards,
Chris

You need the printing plates to make more and the plates are gone.

Cool. Thanks.

Any appreciation potential for the 10x14.  I see the website says numbered to 99, but also mentions may be back in stock.  A bit confused.

Got a few 10x14s coming. What is the best way to display/protect these?  Simple picture frame?

I'm guessing if i don't open it, it'll appreciate more though, right?  can't have your cake and eat it too.

A little backstory based on my observations collecting cards as a kid:

In the late 80's / early 90's, baseball cards (and sports cards overall) skyrocketed in popularity, which led to the period known as the "inflationary period" where the companies, to keep up with demand, printed themselves out of business.  The way they took advantage of their customers by over-saturating the market, along with a players strike which cut one of the seasons short, essentially killed the entire hobby of baseball card collecting (from a mainstream point of view) after the mid 90's.

Fast forward to 2018, the card companies that have managed to survive should understand very well the issues of "hyperinflation".  And they seem to be rewarding their remaining loyal customers at this point with more special inserts, along with lower mintages to keep pace with demand.  From what I understand reading the baseball card posts on reddit and elsewhere, the Allen and Ginter stuff is not very popular overall within the baseball card collectors, so it's a niche series within a niche hobby.  Although the sports card collecting market seems to be on the rebound overall.  It makes sense why A&G would take risks like this to bring in more collectors from different communities, especially by looking to something like cryptos which would attract the younger millennial baseball fans.  We will see how this all plays out, and I expect to see fully private-key-loaded baseball cards coming in 2019 or 2020.  This might be the beginning of something big, hence the reason I've put some effort to documenting it.

I read there were less than 200 cases made of the allen and ginter X.  No idea on the other.

Again FC is correct on how this business works.