Topic: [INFO] Topps Allen & Ginter Reference Thread - page 4. (Read 85236 times)

I'm suspect that they were pulled directly from a box.  There are auto forgeries all over the sport right now, with the card looking exact with the topps certified stamp and all.  Unless they are seen pulled from a topps box someone probably just trolling.  Or they generally bought them thinking they were real only to find out now they aren't. 

Here’s the links to the twitter threads - https://twitter.com/spitballbros/status/1545060903158042626?s=21&t=gjp3CIMlJrwyVoh8atXQzg & https://twitter.com/spitballbros/status/1545072353909977089?s=21&t=gjp3CIMlJrwyVoh8atXQzg

The links to the threads shows the card a bit better as you can see. So you can see here it says on the card “Topps Certified Autograph Issue” which means of course they are stating that the cards came autographed directly from Topps.  Really fishy stuff.  I don’t think there’s any question as to whether these are forgeries or not.




EDIT: here’s another one a shop owner said one of his customers pulled - https://twitter.com/raw0526/status/1545065259559538688?s=21&t=dDbRCijxhoOl7mM9mfThFg

This is definitely really bad.

Yeah we're these pulled directly from a box.  If not there are forgeries all over the place and isn't topps fault.  Would definitely like to hear if these actually were pulled directly from a box that someone can confirm.  If so this is beyond bad.  Maybe tag randy arozerena and see if just possibly he will respond.  My guess is second hand purchase on the old eBay.  Was it @chi?

something like that could collapse the whole company where trust is so important.  only excuse is if this is a total forgery from a third party.  i bet that is the case.

My buddy just sent this over to me and I wanted to see what you guys thought about it. I’m not sure if this was made before or after Fanatics bought Topps. Obviously not a very good look for Topps brand cards. Not a fan of Fanatics myself, so them buying Topps was crappy news for me personally.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/334479111372?hash=item4de08234cc:g:RNcAAOSwP4pir1Z-&autorefresh=true

Cheap Silver Glossy:

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PSA 10 83 Base Cryptocurrency Card - 0.009
PSA 10 83 Mini Cryptocurrency Card - 0.014
PSA 9 83 Base Cryptocurrency Card - 0.005
PSA 10  83 Mini Black Border Card - 0.057
PSA 10 83 Mini A&G Back - 0.018
BGS 9.5 83 Base Cryptocurrency Card - 0.0075

Most likely not.  Probably just a card hawker.  People will buy anything that sells whether they are a corner or not.  So probably just another flipper.

Is the user "Luxury Travel" part of this forum? He seems to be flexing quite a large pile a cards in his product photos   

It's not $7500, nor PSA, but this is interesting...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224825764543?hash=item3458a8eabf:g:Be8AAOSw50JhzlLJ

good info. i'll check it out!

Ebay's Terapeak (seller research) (and 130point.com - although a shorter timeframe/lookback) are able to show actual sold prices on best offers.
There were 3 X boxes sold since November, each originally listed at $20K, but actually sold for $12,625 (1/11/22), $12,500 (11/27/21), and $15,000 (11/10/21).
The $15,000 seems to be the highest price going back into 2020.

Hope that helps!
Brian

**FYI    

PSA now has a $150 submission fee. For that tier, it's supposed to be a 2 month turnaround time....look for them in 30 days or so.
PSA now has a $100 submission fee. For that tier, it's supposed to be a 40-60 day turnaround time....look for them in 2 weeks or so.
PSA has been running $50 submission fee specials, off and on. It's suspected that the $50 submission fee might get ushered into reality, in the short term.

Thanks!

If memory serves I think a Xbox sold for $20k a month or two back.  Was listed for a day or two and then disappeared. Maybe you can check somehow, my ebay-fu is weak.

Done!

Stacy - Any chance you kept tabs on the packs/boxes?  That's been my focus so I have a nice set now.

Here are all-time high prices (as far as i know):


PSA 9 2018 Topps A&G Ginter X Pack - $2,000

PSA 10 2018 Topps A&G Ginter X Pack - $2,000 (not on ebay)

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Ginter X Box - $20,000 (a few of us recall this sale, maybe too old for history)

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Ginter Hobby Box - $3,499

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Ginter Retail Box (no glossies in these) - $2,875

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Ginter Blaster Box (no glossies in these) - $2,182

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Value Pack (the ones with the gold borders) - $455

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Hobby Pack - $150

Sealed 2018 Topps A&G Fat Pack (14 cards) - $315

350-Card Mini Base Set - $1,000

350-Card Mini Set - $2,050

350-Card Mini A&G Back Set - $3,500

350-Card Hot Box Silver Glossy Set - $4,200

350-Card Mini Gold Set - $8,000

350-Card Ginter X Set - $6,800

PSA 9 Mini red ginter x #d/5 - $28,000+

Raw Brooklyn Back #d/25 - $30,000

PSA 9 Mini Ginter X - $22,000

Raw Mini Ginter X - $22,000

Ungraded, Sealed  Gold Border 3-Card Pack With Cryptocurrency  Card NOT on Top Sealed Cello Pack - $1,495

Ungraded, Sealed  Gold Border 3-Card Pack With Cryptocurrency  Card on Top Sealed Cello Pack - $1,950

PSA 10 Mini Black Border - about $3,900

Raw 10x17 Poster #d/99 - $1,800

PSA  10 Hot Box Silver Glossy - $1,800 (Great Deal considering Base cards are about 1k. remember glossy 10x more rare)

PSA 10 Mini - about $1,150 (best offer)

PSA 10 Jumbo 5x7 #d/49 - $10,000

PSA 10 Full-Size, All-Black Ginter X - $6500

PSA 9 Full-Size, All-Black Ginter X - $3750

Raw mini - about $500 (best offer)

Raw Gold Border - about $1500 (best offer)

Raw full-size, all-black Ginter x- $1625

PSA 10 Mini A&G Back - about $1000 (best offer)

PSA 10 Base Card - about $400 (best offer)

Notable Sale

PSA 10 Topps 2018 A&G Cryptocurrency Base Card - $675 (down from the heyday when they went for 1,100, but fair price) 

Even with 1000 PSA 10 base cards, there won't be enough to go around for all the crypto and nft enthusiasts.  Having this dichotomy between common cards and rare ones is a long time coming.  Still a long way to go as regular and a&g back minis are getting no love in pricing.