Topic: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements - page 8. (Read 4434 times)

I think we will eventually move to sites that are all required to perform a KYC. This is not yet the case at the moment, but you can see that licensing committees and licensing authorities are becoming stricter and more demanding. It is a pity that bitcoin is no longer so anonymous, banks are losing their power and supervision, and want more control and exert a lot of influence over governments, which in turn puts pressure on the licensing commissions. Fortunately, there are still a number of sites where you can gamble completely anonymously.

If someone knows how to make it so that when searching for reviews and tables with crypto-casinos using a search engine like Google or yandex, at least in the first ten links there would be a link to BTT and to the first post of OP.  It is really very useful and informative for those newcomers who are interested in the terms of the crypto-casino services.  And in particular, the presence of the KYC requirement. 
If anyone knows how to do this, please help.

This is exactly what I've been looking for since yesterday because I intend to register with another gambling website. I'm tired of checking each site's requirements one by one, and I can't seem to find a comprehensive list of requirements in a Google search. This list is also up to date and makes it simple to choose which websites to register with. However, I will try the website that does not require KYC just to get a feel for it. I am looking for new experiences in gambling websites because I am getting bored with my current gambling site because there is no new innovation I think because this website is running for a long time since 2016 I think.

Most helpful with OP listed all gambling platform required or not with KYC, actually if any several gambling platform listed by OP need KYC not any way for children under 18 years old for betting and active on gambling platform. Appreciated what did by OP because he was clearly explain and give guide on several gambling platform which one have to pass KYC or not. I think with beginner on several gambling platform will know when trying several gambling site which one have to pass KYC or not.

But you must be ready for the KYC procedure at any time.  I have already come across such an unexpected "gift" several times from both crypto exchanges and gambling sites.  By the way, this can be quite unpleasant, especially if you are asked to confirm your identity, present not only a photo of your face with a document that you must hold in your hands, but also a utility bill to confirm your address.
 All this is very annoying and takes up your time.

This is a great list of gambling sites and KYC requirements, it is very detailed including the list of the required identification or valid identification that can be accepted in the gambling site. As we can see most of the licensed gambling site do require users at some point to do KYC since it is a requirements of their license but I wasn't yet asked to verify my account and is still optional.

I am playing at Bitsler and Stake.com and sometimes at Gamdom when I receive my payment from them through the site.

As for KYC, it is worth noting that after the introduction of this procedure in 2016 by these filthy regulatory authorities in the USA, this procedure is now more and more required everywhere.  So don't be surprised that when you suddenly go to your favorite gambling site, where there was no KYC requirement when you registered, they suddenly require it.  Otherwise, neither the deposit nor the winnings will be returned.  That's the kind of "care" about customers.  Thanks to filthy regulators (the authors of KYC for cryptocurrency would go to hell)

That was a great list, and putting (if needed) is really important since players would know if it is mandatory that they ask KYC. Is this list updated monthly I've seen new gambling site opening the last I remember is the SandboxCasino.

This list is a good introduction to the player who would like to seek some information what is the ideal gambling platform for them and I already used some of them because they are already created a good reputation to our forum, ill try to explore more if there suitable for my needs as a gambler I do mostly with the sports and e-sports betting and it's easier to make a background check now because of the list.

Curacao is a fairly well-known and widespread license, and it makes no sense to doubt its ability to regulate and somewhat control the gambling market. 

However, I think that any kind of licensing is an insufficient guarantee for specific players.  There are many nuances in these licenses that may not protect the player in a controversial situation.  And it will be useless to argue.  And even KYC won't help.  It would only hurt if the player chose to remain anonymous. 

So don't over-believe everything in our world full of lies.

Agree on that one.
Additionally, it also depends on the Master license (if we talk about Curacao licenses). For example, Curaçao Master License 8048/JAZ (Antillephone N.V) or Curaçao Master License 365/JAZ actually responds to player complaints. On the other hand, that can't be said for Master License 1668/JAZ.

There is a difference between licenses, and some of them wouldn't be much of a help for player complaints.

It depends if they know what they are looking for or if they want to fix it at all. The other provider that was mentioned in that thread was Felix Gaming. A vulnerability was found in their games. Initially, the game provider claimed there were no problems, but eventually admitted that things went wrong. It cannot be ruled out that something similar isn't happening here and that Wazdan knows about a serious flaw but can't or doesn't want to fix it.   

I totally agree, and there is a better way to handle this situation. Unfortunately, LTC casino isn't going down that road.

The casino team has claimed that, but they haven't provided any single proof of it. The player has won 3 jackpots. One of those was small amount and he lost it later. But he won two big jackpot after that.

The player won't have any evidence to show that he played the game without using the illegal method. Everything depends on the casino team and game provider. The game provider wouldn't make much delay to provide the evidence if the user really used some illegal method.

Yeah, I have read those conversations. The OP thought you are supporting the casino team. At first I had neutral view in his accusation. But today I have stand against the casino for their negligence and silence. You can find the conversations among bambolina, LTC casino and Casino Guru representative here: LTC Casino - Player’s account has been blocked and audited.
There is a 14 hours timer now and they will close the case as unsolved if LTC casino team doesn't give any response.

The accusation was created in the forum one month ago. LTC casino representative has made only 4 response in the accusation thread until now. He hasn't answered to a lot of question which was asked by some forum members. They haven't given any real update of this investigation. LTC casino can take 3 months to give the final answer, but they should have cooperate (making response) with the gambling community on regular basis to maintain their reputation. They are doing the opposite.

Exactly my point. You can't come to such conclusions based on the way someone wagers there money. Some gamblers have good risk management, others have poor. Some play with 5-10% of their total bag per hand, others wager all at once. The point is, the casino can't suspect that the gamblers who take greater risks are underaged.

I am familiar with the case. I came across it while browsing the Scam Accusation board. The casino believes the player in question has used some automated or illegal software. According to them, the player has played 16 hours straight with no pauses between the spins. They are saying that there wasn't even 1 second difference between two rounds. The player played the same slot all the time and managed to win 3 jackpots. Or was it 2? I forgot. All that triggered their alarms.

I communicated with both the player and LTC Casino trying to get them to release the data and evidence they have against the player. No luck so far. They have promised to release the data once the investigation has been concluded. According to their TOS, they have the right to take up to 3 months for that.

I am not sure what to think. I don't like the casino's silence, but I also find it very difficult to talk with the player and OP of that thread. He keeps stating that the evidence shows he did nothing wrong. But there is no evidence. LTC Casino has not released any data and we don't know what Wazdan (the game provider has sent them). Wazdan's team claims they sent everything they needed. LTC Casino says that's not true. Neither party is releasing information about what was sent or received. Obviously, the player believes Wazdan, because that suits him. I can't side with the player not having seen the data that was never released. But the user bambolina doesn't understand that and believes I have sided with the casino. We also don't know what the Casino Guru rep has received from both parties and what records they have looked at.   

LTC Casino claims to have asked Wazdan for additional information that they haven't provided. I PMed the casino's forum rep and asked them to post proof of this request. So far they haven't done that. LTC Casino is doing this wrongly if you ask me. But, is that enough to prove they are lying? I don't think it is. If the player played and won the money fairly, I understand his anger. But I have a feeling this will take a long time to settle.

A 15-17 years old is mature enough to manage their funds. They also knows how to take the risk with their funds. So, there won't be any difference between a 18 or above years old and 15 to 17 years old people betting pattern. There could be some differences in terms of risk management if any 12 or less years old start betting. Generally, no casino has any system to determine the underage gamblers.

Crashino.com KYC policy and advertising system is questionable from my view. The may suspect any user as an underage gambler. Then they will apply the identity verification rules to him. Moreover, they should block the user account if anyone breach their terms. I can't see the reason to apply the KYC requirement in that case.

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Quoting this to give an example here. User ‘bambolina’ has created a scam accusation against ‘LTC Casino’ one month ago (See here). LTC Casino doesn't have the gambling license and KYC verification isn't required there. LTC Casino team aren't making much response in bitcointalk forum. Even they aren't cooperating with the casino guru team (who are working as a middleman to solve the complaint). And here is the last response which user ‘bambolina’ has received from casino guru team



So, a licensed casino with KYC requirement is better than a new, unlicensed and ‘no KYC' casino. If LTC Casino had the gambling license then there would have been an option to force them through the license provider to resolve the issue quickly.

From what I've read and heard, the license type doesn't even matter that much. Curacao, Costa Rica, MGA, it doesn't matter and the players only have to deal with complaints with a casino. There are a few gambling organizations just like in the UK that do stand up for the interests of customers. Licensing from Malta and Curacao is purely for the fact that these sites are allowed to offer it legally and not at all for the security and defense of the customer.

To be clear, as long as you are "successfully" losing your money, you will not be suspected of being underaged or in breach of the casinos' terms and conditions. Such statements as the above by the Crashino forum representative are an insult to logic and intelligence. I would really like to know what systems and algorithms they have in place to look at a player's gambling history and patterns and determine that they are possibly dealing with an underaged player? Are there certain bets that a 17-year old would place but an 19-year old never would because he is of legal age? Nonsense.   

Yeah, bets.io representative hasn't replied to my last question. And Crashino.com representative ignored my question too. Anyway, they will not give the clear answer if you ask them about it. Some other forum members has also asked the OP of Crashino.com about their KYC policy but they didn't give the appropriate answer to anyone. They said

Based on this statement, they may block the funds/withdrawal of their users by addressing that the user is underage or by saying that the user has breached their terms. And KYC will be asked in that case. So, advertising with ‘no KYC’ is really misleading.

Bets.io's casino admin completely ignored your last questions. I wouldn't attach too much importance to what he said because the casino's KYC states that they can and will ask for KYC if needed. I am certain that would happen in case of significant wins or if they believe a player is gambling from a location that is banned. If it was my thread, I would mention that players could be asked to go through KYC when they play at Bets.io.

They are claiming that KYC is needed to determine whether a player is underaged. That makes no sense. There is no way to determine that a player is underaged based on the casino games he plays, wagers, wins/losses. Since you were ignored, I would ask the question again. It could have been an honest mistake or maybe their casino rep didn't like your question. If they don't respond a second time, cross them off. That's what I would do. 

Update: Added the details of BK8 and BTC365 in the list.

@Pmalek & @FatFork, I need some suggestions from both of you. I was checking two casinos, they are Bets.io and Crashino.com. Both of them are advertising in the forum by adding “No KYC” in their title. While both casino reserves the right to ask for identity verification based on the rules of their terms.

Bets.io has gambling license. Identity verification requirement is mentioned in their terms. I asked their forum representative about this, but I'm not satisfied with their answer. (See here)
Crashino.com doesn't have gambling license. But KYC verification requirement is also mentioned in their terms. I have asked to their representative as well, but they have ignored my question. (See here)

I was planning to add both of them in the list, but I'm confused for their mixed and misleading information. What should I do?