Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements - page 12.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 04, 2022, 07:00:12 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on January 28, 2022, 07:15:50 AM

So maybe one purpose of this topic is to highlight services that still don't ask for KYC?

This topic is created to make the KYC requirements and license details available at a single place, so that the bettors can easily get the information here.

Yes I get it Wink

But I was wondering also, since we're all crypto users and crypto gamblers, can we also not try and push for more highlight for non-KYC sites/casinos? I mean I understand that licensing and regulations makes it impossible for KYC to be ignored, but we should still give some extra exposure for those crypto casinos that still do their best to provide a pure non-KYC experience that was originally the offering from crypto casinos.

Just my suggestion, great list.

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Quote from: FrankBank on February 05, 2022, 10:17:39 PM

Many Casinos are simply obliged to state in their KYC that they require it if they are holding a license. Doesn't mean a casino would actually do it. Unless they suspect something but something far more serious like money laundering, otherwise I agree it shouldn't be applied to the crypto users. Defeats the purpose and the what it's suppose to stand for.

Even if the casino doesn't have or has not yet secured a license, once a user is suspected of abuse they will likely ask for KYC, not only abuse or withdrawing a huge amount but account recovery or a user forgetting his pin code or 2FA recovery, KYC is good to protect the casino and the player as well but they should not ask KYC as a mandatory requirement to play in their casino if they want more players in the Cryptocurrency community.

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Many Casinos are simply obliged to state in their KYC that they require it if they are holding a license. Doesn't mean a casino would actually do it. Unless they suspect something but something far more serious like money laundering, otherwise I agree it shouldn't be applied to the crypto users. Defeats the purpose and the what it's suppose to stand for.

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Quote from: MinerHQ on February 05, 2022, 08:31:51 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on February 04, 2022, 12:45:21 PM

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

For the license I agree with what you said but for KYC actually it's still fifty fifty in my opinion.
maybe for people who only gamble with small bets and gamble just for fun I feel that KYC is not really needed but on the other hand we also can't forget some people who gamble in big enough bets and I still feel KYC could be a pretty good thing for them.
apart from verifying their identity, this can also be used to minimize the fact that their account doesn't transfer to someone else so things like KYC will still be important to them even though most gamblers don't like it.

If one playing with crypto then there shouldn't be any kyc. I don't care about the license as long as we can trust the casino.

Providing our personal information to these casinos is not safe and soon or later these details will be sold on dark websites. So I never bother to check a casino if they ask of kyc.

Then how you would be thinking into those traditional services on which we are mainly passing up our documentation or overall information? This had been a common
thing that we've been dealing everyday and you cant be sure that there wouldnt be any leak outs with those information.For these crypto gambling sites then we
know that having a license could really give out some boost in terms of trust into the community on where gamblers would be thinking that having a license
is showing off that they are dealing with a legit site which i cant blame them but we know that license isnt everything.

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Quote from: Raflesia on February 04, 2022, 12:45:21 PM

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

For the license I agree with what you said but for KYC actually it's still fifty fifty in my opinion.
maybe for people who only gamble with small bets and gamble just for fun I feel that KYC is not really needed but on the other hand we also can't forget some people who gamble in big enough bets and I still feel KYC could be a pretty good thing for them.
apart from verifying their identity, this can also be used to minimize the fact that their account doesn't transfer to someone else so things like KYC will still be important to them even though most gamblers don't like it.

If one playing with crypto then there shouldn't be any kyc. I don't care about the license as long as we can trust the casino.

Providing our personal information to these casinos is not safe and soon or later these details will be sold on dark websites. So I never bother to check a casino if they ask of kyc.

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Agree with this. Those casinos that do not require KYC will be a place for us to play gambling. If I see the casino ask for KYC, I will leave it and not try to verify my account because I only want to have fun and not chase the money from the games.

However, there will be a gambler who will verify themselves in the casino and mostly, those people want to play in a big amount and if their account is verified, they can deposit in large money to gamble.

it depends on the options implemented and indeed KYC is not as bad as one might think especially for those who gamble in bigger money. actually they need something like this KYC to verify them and it will be quite useful for them if something untoward happens with their account.
but indeed there are still a lot of people who don't want kyc and that is quite normal as we just want to have fun and don't really want this kind of thing for gambling.
this is depending on what we choose regardless of KYC or not that is also a choice

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Quote from: johhnyUA on February 04, 2022, 04:24:06 PM

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

I don't think that's true. There are a number of licensed casinos that do not require KYC for low-budget players. In fact, most casinos will require KYC only if you're a high-roller or withdrawing large sums of money.

Read the OP's post if you haven't already.

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Quote from: delfastTions on February 05, 2022, 03:07:15 AM

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If you've not directly dealt with casino daily operations, it might be hard to understand why they take KYC seriously.

They're there to make sure some underaged kid which shouldn't be gambling in the first place to bring back a huge sum that would be problematic, given he or she is below the legal requirement.

And then there's some people that prefer to whitewash their stolen funds.

Nobody wants to be (in)directly involved in someone else's dirty affairs.

@op it's a great table. to be honest the pros and cons of KYC will continue to emerge, many support, many also reject but from my personal perception, I support what you say. KYC is great for preventing minors from gambling as well as deterring money launderers, I hope we can all respect the rules made by a gambling site because they want to do business in the long term.

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Quote from: delfastTions on February 05, 2022, 03:07:15 AM

It is absolutely true that it is written above that passing KYC can cause problems, and if KYC is not required, then this can also cause problems. In short, it turns out that in any case there may be problems for the gamers. And there are only two problems:
1. There is no way to get the winnings if KYC has not passed Angry

2. If you winnings and you have passed KYC then it fell under the control of the tax service and apparently will have to be divided- part government Sad

. But this is in good countries where there are no gangs of extortionists. And in bad countries, with high crime, everything can be taken away. So whatever one may say this damn KYC is nothing but problems. And what bastard came up with it and now demands it everywhere?

If you've not directly dealt with casino daily operations, it might be hard to understand why they take KYC seriously.

They're there to make sure some underaged kid which shouldn't be gambling in the first place to bring back a huge sum that would be problematic, given he or she is below the legal requirement.

And then there's some people that prefer to whitewash their stolen funds.

Nobody wants to be (in)directly involved in someone else's dirty affairs.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 04, 2022, 07:00:07 PM

Quote from: johhnyUA on February 04, 2022, 04:24:06 PM

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license?

Can't agree. I, for example, use bet365 where everyone needs to pass through KYC. And because 365bet has UK license I'm sure that my identity maybe in bigger danger than no-KYC but at the same time much safer that book will not disappear into sunset.

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

we have seen here that there are some licensed casinos that don't require KYC. unless, you are a high roller and you surpass their limits ( usually 2k EUR or 2k USD). otherwise, you can play without worrying about KYC. and they have gaming license.
just to give example is stake and betfury. it says from the table that they are licensed, but kyc is only done if needed. and one thing you need to keep in mind is accumulated deposits/withdrawals.

It is absolutely true that it is written above that passing KYC can cause problems, and if KYC is not required, then this can also cause problems. In short, it turns out that in any case there may be problems for the gamers. And there are only two problems:
1. There is no way to get the winnings if KYC has not passed Angry

2. If you winnings and you have passed KYC then it fell under the control of the tax service and apparently will have to be divided- part government Sad

. But this is in good countries where there are no gangs of extortionists. And in bad countries, with high crime, everything can be taken away. So whatever one may say this damn KYC is nothing but problems. And what bastard came up with it and now demands it everywhere?

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Quote from: johhnyUA on February 04, 2022, 04:24:06 PM

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license?

Can't agree. I, for example, use bet365 where everyone needs to pass through KYC. And because 365bet has UK license I'm sure that my identity maybe in bigger danger than no-KYC but at the same time much safer that book will not disappear into sunset.

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

we have seen here that there are some licensed casinos that don't require KYC. unless, you are a high roller and you surpass their limits ( usually 2k EUR or 2k USD). otherwise, you can play without worrying about KYC. and they have gaming license.
just to give example is stake and betfury. it says from the table that they are licensed, but kyc is only done if needed. and one thing you need to keep in mind is accumulated deposits/withdrawals.

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Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license?

Can't agree. I, for example, use bet365 where everyone needs to pass through KYC. And because 365bet has UK license I'm sure that my identity maybe in bigger danger than no-KYC but at the same time much safer that book will not disappear into sunset.

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on February 04, 2022, 01:08:18 PM

Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I somehow agree with your statement. Though what bothers me are unlicensed online gambling websites as they are unregulated. Though this may be the case, this can easily be remedied if the gambling website has proven itself to be relatively 'trustworthy' through the test of time (e.g. their overall time of service, etc.). But generally, I avoid unlicensed gambling websites especially if they are brand new and if they are still establishing their name on the market.

As for KYC, it is definitely a no-brainer for me. Why would I ever want to expose my identity to something that is unregulated/regulated which can potentially leak my information?

I think the same, every time we bow down to a centralized authority then they are free to put forward whatever regulations that they like, it is true that gambling in an unlicensed casino is a risk especially if it is relatively new, but if the casino has shown through their actions that they are to be trusted then that is more than enough to me.

After all the main reason that made gambling with cryptocurrencies so successful at the beginning was the ability to gamble without the need of going through KYC policies.

BTW great thread OP, merited.

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Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I somehow agree with your statement. Though what bothers me are unlicensed online gambling websites as they are unregulated. Though this may be the case, this can easily be remedied if the gambling website has proven itself to be relatively 'trustworthy' through the test of time (e.g. their overall time of service, etc.). But generally, I avoid unlicensed gambling websites especially if they are brand new and if they are still establishing their name on the market.

As for KYC, it is definitely a no-brainer for me. Why would I ever want to expose my identity to something that is unregulated/regulated which can potentially leak my information?

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Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

Probably a problem for some gamblers where if a casino have license means that some gamblers from a country where gambling is illegal so it really is a pain in the ass. It's just like the casino where I came across where the country where I'm from is in the list of countries that are blocked or illegal them that means if a gambler from that country gambled big time then request a cash out and the casino ask for KYC then that gamble would surely won't be able to cash it out due to that reason.

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Quote from: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 12:31:10 PM

No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

For the license I agree with what you said but for KYC actually it's still fifty fifty in my opinion.
maybe for people who only gamble with small bets and gamble just for fun I feel that KYC is not really needed but on the other hand we also can't forget some people who gamble in big enough bets and I still feel KYC could be a pretty good thing for them.
apart from verifying their identity, this can also be used to minimize the fact that their account doesn't transfer to someone else so things like KYC will still be important to them even though most gamblers don't like it.

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No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

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Quote from: FatFork on February 04, 2022, 11:40:37 AM

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Thanks man! You have made it easier for me now. I wasn't aware of this direct link. I will make a different column within next few days with the Curacao gambling company registration number and the verifier link of each casino. However, this system won't work for those casinos who doesn't operate with Curacao gambling license. As example: blackjack.fun.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on February 04, 2022, 07:00:12 AM

Currently there is a way to verify the Curacao gambling license (license provider company) of a casino by searching with their registration number or the company name.

If we know the company registration number, there is a direct url that can be used to get an Excerpt from the Curaçao Commercial Register.
It's just a matter of replacing the ID number with the correct registration number of the company you want to check.

For example this is a direct url for mBet Solutions N.V. company (Sportsbet.io), with registration number 129230:
http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=129230

Maybe you can use this to create active links in your table when adding company registration numbers.
Great job, by the way.

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Update: Just added the information of 5 more casinos. They are Gamdom, MintDice, PlayBitcoinGames, Rocket Run and Thunderpick.

Quote from: notblox1 on January 26, 2022, 03:34:02 PM

I like that you organized the list in alphabetical order but I would like to see more info for license number and link if possible.

Alphabetic order is better than the random order. I didn't give priority to any random or popular casino here. Not to mention, the list only contains legit casino who doesn't have bad reputation. About the license number or link, it isn't possible to add the validator link in this topic. But I will add the license registration number and company name of each casino on my next update. Currently there is a way to verify the Curacao gambling license (license provider company) of a casino by searching with their registration number or the company name. I'm giving the example of two casino here:

Quote from: slaman29 on January 28, 2022, 07:15:50 AM

So maybe one purpose of this topic is to highlight services that still don't ask for KYC?

This topic is created to make the KYC requirements and license details available at a single place, so that the bettors can easily get the information here.

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