Topic: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W - page 14. (Read 55212 times)

Anyone got their A5? I have and it's not hashing. Miner status keeps refreshing and on pool side nothing. Tried nicehash, miningpoolhub, suprnova and zpool. Even with the default pool, miner status just stuck on refresh. However, the miner is drawing around 750W from the wall. Ethernet is working. Even upgrade the firmware (g19 is my version) according to their recent tweet and still nothing. Sent ticket to them yesterday and waiting for their response. Paid 10K USD and you would expect a machine that will run flawless but nope!

I was wondering if anyone is having same problem as me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nyIewRpB4U
1:13 - But now that I came back to it, that is the miner overclocked

Still its different than what he states verbally

Speaking of overclocking, anyone here planning of overclocking his a5?

If so, do u know how? and what are the risks associated with it?

Regarding S9s, I am running a few too but you need to remember the ROI is tied to the huge increase in price, making it one of those "If you just hold the coin instead of mine you would get the same result without the headache"

Bitcoin's price seems under attack lately and especially with the USDT tether scam pumping the price drama

So if bitcoin's price comes down, many miners will need to exit, specially ones that are running less than 100 as the return per miner would become too low and everyone would want to get rid of his miner asap as they know before the time they would start netting profit newer more efficient miners will arrive

Just my 2 cents

Just because the S9's have been out for a while, doesn't mean they are going to be obsolete. Yes, other mining companies will release more efficient Bitcoin miners in the future, that is inevitable. The only difference now though is, with Bitcoin, companies will not be able to release something that is twice as efficient as the Bitmain S9, maybe only 15% - 20% at most because Bitcoin miners are already hitting Moore's Law and the chips used inside mining machines are getting close to being as efficient and as small as possible already.

With Dash, I would not be surprised if they come out with a 64GH/s X11 @ 1000W miner next year, because they probably can. Unlike Bitcoin, Dash mining equipment hasn't hit near its full potential yet.

Even though the S9 has been out for a year and a half, I still believe that it will be more relevant / profitable than any X11 miner currently available just because of how far Bitcoin mining equipment has pushed the envelope already. The Dashminer A5 has a much better chance of becoming obsolete before the S9 ever does. I've been mining with an S9 for over a year and am waiting for my A5 to come in. I realized a couple months ago that I made a huge mistake. Like many others, I knew that the Dash difficulty was going to skyrocket eventually, but thought I could get in before it was too late. Had I known, I would have just bought more S9s.

The S9 has already been out for some time now.  Other players have already made announcements that put them on the playing field next year.  So I would fully expect to see new hardware in the SHA256 space next year that will force everyone to upgrade.  The announcements that have already been put out there are talking about pretty significant increases in efficiency.   So if you jump on the S9 today just be aware of what is coming.  The new hardware could put a crimp on your ROI plans.

The Dashmaster has the best chance of sticking around for the longer haul in the X11 space because of efficiency, but sadly all this hash power from so many miner producers has crushed any dreams of even getting your money back in any time frame that makes any sense.  We have to hope for a rising price to raise all boats now. 

I am am glad I didn't spend 10k on a Dashmaster at this point.  I am already pretty much looking at my D3's as a loss at the moment.  Thankfully I didn't buy very many of them.

Herein lies the risk associated in the mining game. There always has, and always will be these types of risks involved in mining crypto.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that the same thing won't happen with the S9 in the future, but I do believe the chances are much smaller that it will because of the fact that companies have been trying to make the most efficient Bitcoin miners for 8 years, where as companies that have been focusing on LTC and Dash had only gotten serious about it recently (of course LTC has been in it for a while.. but still relatively new) so the limit as to how much hashing power can be physically stuffed into one miner cannot yet be measured as well as with Bitcoin miners. The S9 uses (almost) the latest and greatest technology even by todays standard, using the 16nm mining chips that are the smallest, most efficient cost effective chips out on the market.

The mining chips used in Bitcoin miners have nearly hit the 'Moore's Law' Wall, meaning that exponentially more efficient mining chips are no longer possible to produce, meaning that what we have inside of the S9 is (almost) as efficient as they will ever be for a while. Yes, China has announced a bitcoin miner that uses 14nm mining chips (basically the smaller the nm number, the more efficient they are..) and yes, they will probably make a more efficient miner, but only to a certain extent. Right now it is much much harder / more expensive to create anything that would be efficient enough to make the Antminer S9 obsolete.

Even Andreas Antonopoulos has said that the chips will lead to extended shelf life of mining equipment because of Moore's Law.
http://blogchain.info/post/14nm-chips-will-re-decentralize-mining-says-antonopoulos

You seem to be correct. I am currently considering to order a few new miners, and incline to S9 - because of the current good return, and in particular because BTC price will most ikely to continuously rise in future (with some drops of course)  than other coins (to my opinion).  

But after D3 disaster (which i thoughtlessly bought a few units), I am too afraid that some company would invent much more efficient miner than S9, and same scenario repeats as with D3.     Why do you think this won't happen with s9 in near future, or within a year at least?  

Yeah I agree that ROI might take a little longer with the A4+ compared to the L3+ but the point being is that the A4+ is still slightly more efficient. Whenever there is a more efficient miner released, the difficulty rate goes up pretty fast. Currently an L3+ can make net you about $10 - $15 USD per day after power costs in the US. I would guess they would be making $7 - $10 USD after the A4+ is released. Actually that's not to bad TBH, but then again, at that point, why not just buy an Antminer S9? It would likely be just as profitable for around the same price, and it's at the top of it's game for efficiency. There is less of a chance that there will be another Bitcoin miner released within the next year that would make the S9 obsolete. I can't say the same for the L3+, A4+, or Dash miners for that matter.

I said that I would personally stay away from the L3+ because if anybody was looking to turn a real profit, it would have been when the L3+ was first released. If you plugged an L3+ in now, you do still have a good chance to reach an ROI after a year, but expect to be making $2 - $5 a day if anything after reaching ROI. I think you would likely still come out on top, but I just feel that there are better things to invest in ATM.

Either way, I believe that mining LTC with either a L3+ or A4+ (once it is released) would have a better chance of making any profit compared to anything in Dash right now.

I also believe that mining good old fashioned Bitcoin with an S9 would be the most profitable out of all of the ASIC options mentioned above unfortunately.

Checked A4+ and see that it's ROI is 177 days, wich is worse than L3 (111 days)  -    this is because it's price is 2 time more than L3,  but hashrate is only 1.23 time more.

Regarding staying away, I think this is not the same as with Dash, because hashrate with A4+ increases insigificantly compared with currently available miners.  But with D3 situation was conpletely different - it's productivity was hunred times more than other miners when it appeared.

More pictures and another video from a seller on AliExpress. I believe the seller is out of stock though.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/OUT-Stock-NEW-INNOSILICON-A5-Dash-Miner-X11-Algorithm-30-2GH-S-Dash-Miners-750W/32841122637.html

No I missed it, where in the video do you see a power meter at the wall?

Yes, it's more profitable to mine Bitcoin with an S9 or Litecoin with an L3+ than to mine Dash with anything. Right now it makes more sense to use an S9 or L3+ rather than mine Dash just because of how the network difficulty has skyrocketed in Dash.

Pretty much the only way to reach an ROI in Dash is if the value of Dash goes way up. And if this does happen, you will make more by buying Dash instead of mining it in the first place. With Bitcoin and Litecoin right now, you don't need to depend of a price increase to reach an ROI with an S9 or L3+, there is a good chance you can reach an ROI even if the price of Bitcoin or Litecoin were to stay the same.

Of course there is a chance that A5 owners could potentially reach ROI without a Dash price increase, but that would mean that we are able to mine Dash for about 4 years without more efficient Dash equipment being released, but odds are very against this ever happening.

This can easily change though... Innosilicon is releasing what I believe is the worlds most efficient Litecoin miner soon (Pfft soon... hahah) called the A4+.. so I would personally stay out of LiteCoin for a while because the network difficulty is now due for another major increase.

By the way, if you're looking for an ASIC miner compatible pool, try https://poolmining.org/pool/dash

It seems great

Do you think mining Bitcoin with s9 or Litcoin with L3 also make no sence?  Is it better just to buy them and hold?

Check this video

It's in Russian so I didn't understand what hes saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8cw5aeIkQ

But if you go to 3:31 you can see they have the same miner config dashboard as BITMAIN

Ya about that video did you notice the power meter at the wall? it had a reading above 800 W, different from the 7 stated in the same video

Basically I’d like to host 1-2 miners for free for a month or so
PM if you’re interested / anyone else

hi,what is the deal? how you meaning renting? my whatup is 18492078030

i have 8 a5  almost ready to ship....i will try to minigsolo any advice to get more profits i will get 10 d3 too in the way.i dont pay elelctricity so thats why i want to trade for d3  .1 a5 for 4 d3

hey great man many thx

Probably a long shot, but is anyone interested in having me host their A5 or renting me their a5? I want to review it for my YouTube channel and website www.YouTube.com/VoskCoin + www.VoskCoin.com

May help your ROI I could also mine to your wallet