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newbie
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November 11, 2017, 05:59:46 AM
So, any news about what the compensation will be? They wrote a mail first to verify 2 extra miners for us, then only promised extra hashpower. Anybody more updated?

In my case they don't even reply to emails about shipping dates, shipping info etc.
full member
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November 11, 2017, 02:48:27 AM
So, any news about what the compensation will be? They wrote a mail first to verify 2 extra miners for us, then only promised extra hashpower. Anybody more updated?
member
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November 10, 2017, 06:56:39 PM
Figured I would leave this here:

A community petition titled "D3 Antminer firmware update for additional mining algorithms"   Cheesy  Roll Eyes
https://www.change.org/p/https-twitter-com-bitmaintech-d3-antminer-firmware-update-for-additional-mining-algorithms?recruiter=831205993&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

I guess D3 purchasers are not happy about their gains because of the Dash mining difficulty level.

So far 190 people confirmed that they do not understand how mining works. Cheesy

newbie
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November 10, 2017, 04:46:00 AM
I sell Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W at a low price in stock.
- Contact me in p.m
- I accept bitcoin (BTC) as payment.

official post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24335161
member
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November 09, 2017, 11:49:18 PM
dashmaster 30GH for 10k ?
D3 19 GH for $1500 ?

LOOOOOL rip A5 more like dash loser
In a couple months the D3 will cost more in electricity to run than it earns. And currently it only nets ~$2.50 USD worth of Dash per day at 17 Gh factoring average electricity costs in the US. The only chance anybody will have to make profit is going to have to be with the A5, until something more powerful comes out.

It might take years for the A5 to be worth it. But at least the possibility is there. Try running the D3 for a year and you will be paying more in electricity than you will be making, never mind the cost put forward to buy it.

Unless you have free electricity.. D3's will start to yield negative profits in a couple of months.

Btw Innosilicon just posted this. Shipping has allegedly started... given Innosilions track record, I don't even know if I can believe this Tweet:
https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928803414338707458
is it becuase you are factoring in power usage? Innosilicon is notorious for understating power usage

Id wait to recive a few units in the wild before making predictions like this
Yes, as power usage is the determining factor on profitability.

Even if the A5 used the same amount of power draw as the D3, which Inno has already released video proof that it does not, it will still be making a profit at the end of the day. That's not to say that they will ever reach ROI because who knows when something more powerful gets released.. but the D3's are barely making anything already, which is why they are so cheap on ebay ($850 USD new, unopened). People are trying to get rid of them.

Once the Dash difficulty reaches 65 000 000 then D3's will officially cost more to run than they will be making. (at current rates ect..) The difficulty is at 36 000 000 as of the time of this writing.

Contrast that to the A5. The mining difficulty would have to reach 180 000 000 before the A5's are obsolete in the US (given average US power costs.. other areas will vary). If the A5 used the same power draw as the D3, then the network difficulty would need to reach 110 000 000 before profits are lost. Either way, much better than the D3 of course.

Use this tool to check for yourself: https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/
newbie
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November 09, 2017, 11:35:31 PM
i am in the black hole too....i bougth 7 a5 and 10 d3 ....but anyway  somebody that have d3 19ghz did you wnat trade 7 unist d3 for 1 unit a5? sorry about this post i put all my money in the a5...but i can save my as... with d3 i dont pay elelctricity

 Cry Cry Cry
full member
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Merit: 132
November 09, 2017, 11:02:01 PM
dashmaster 30GH for 10k ?
D3 19 GH for $1500 ?

LOOOOOL rip A5 more like dash loser
In a couple months the D3 will cost more in electricity to run than it earns. And currently it only nets ~$2.50 USD worth of Dash per day at 17 Gh factoring average electricity costs in the US. The only chance anybody will have to make profit is going to have to be with the A5, until something more powerful comes out.

It might take years for the A5 to be worth it. But at least the possibility is there. Try running the D3 for a year and you will be paying more in electricity than you will be making, never mind the cost put forward to buy it.

Unless you have free electricity.. D3's will start to yield negative profits in a couple of months.

Btw Innosilicon just posted this. Shipping has allegedly started... given Innosilions track record, I don't even know if I can believe this Tweet:
https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928803414338707458
is it becuase you are factoring in power usage? Innosilicon is notorious for understating power usage

Id wait to recive a few units in the wild before making predictions like this
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 12
November 09, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
dashmaster 30GH for 10k ?
D3 19 GH for $1500 ?

LOOOOOL rip A5 more like dash loser
In a couple months the D3 will cost more in electricity to run than it earns. And currently it only nets ~$2.50 USD worth of Dash per day at 17 Gh factoring average electricity costs in the US. The only chance anybody will have to make profit is going to have to be with the A5, until something more powerful comes out.

It might take years for the A5 to be worth it. But at least the possibility is there. Try running the D3 for a year and you will be paying more in electricity than you will be making, never mind the cost put forward to buy it.

Unless you have free electricity.. D3's will start to yield negative profits in a couple of months.

Btw Innosilicon just posted this. Shipping has allegedly started... given Innosilions track record, I don't even know if I can believe this Tweet:
https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928803414338707458
full member
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November 09, 2017, 09:35:05 PM
member
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November 09, 2017, 09:04:48 PM
So Innosilicon is not making it any easier for us to make a RIO on these... can't say I'm surprised of course...
They released a video showing their mining farms in action:
https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928235158540390405

It is now 3x more profitable to mine Bitcoin with an Antminer S9, than to mine Dash with an A5 (Not even considering the huge price difference). I honestly do not understand how this happened. One would think that there is more competition in Bitcoin than there would be in Dash right? Doesn't make sense...

Also, If anybody is interested, here is an image of that appears to be the Innosilicon A5. I have no idea if this is a credible source:
https://www.sbazar.cz/kerndlmichal/detail/25413397-innosilicon-a5-dashmaster-30-ghs-miner-x11

Found this seller on Alibaba that shows images of what are supposed pallets of A5s:
https://szdihao.en.alibaba.com/product/60680062639-805244449/DIHAO_INNOSILICON_A5_DashMaster_FACTORY_PREORDER_NEW_X11_A5_DASHMASTER_Miner_30_2G_750W_algorithm_DASH_X11_DASH_miners.html

Also.. RIP Antminer D3s. Sorry you were not able to make a lasting impression. You had a good short run.

At current rate it will take Innosilicon A5 purchasers ~3 years to reach any kind of ROI given average American electricity costs... Assuming difficulty doesn't rise any more by then, which it indefinitely will as soon as we all get our hands on these Sad I am embarrassed to say that I am one of these people that trusted Innosilicon to deliver as promised. Never again. I should have listened to the horror stories told about the A4.

RIP Dash miner investors.
sr. member
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November 09, 2017, 03:09:27 PM
Hello, ive heard on slack group from someone today that some customers have recieved the innosolicon a5 miners already? Can somebody confirm this? I have a few buddies still waiting on these things.
Anyways, if anybody recieved this miners already please update and with pictures if possible.

Thanks

Well looking at the latest hike in dash network hashrate a large number of powerful machines have come online and are hashing away

https://www.p2poolmining.us/dash-breaks-petahash-barrier/

might be another batch of D3s because innosilicon would make a huge announcement that they are shipping to get us off their backs

So until someone can confirm otherwise, a5s haven't started shipping yet




Ahhh thank you for your reply. Ive snooped around today and noticed innosilicon has posted pictures of the a5 dashmaster units packaged and stated the units are being shipped out.
So maybe information ive gotten hss been wrong regarding custimers recieving. But it seems like some customers will finally be recieving these units very shortly.
newbie
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November 07, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
Hello, ive heard on slack group from someone today that some customers have recieved the innosolicon a5 miners already? Can somebody confirm this? I have a few buddies still waiting on these things.
Anyways, if anybody recieved this miners already please update and with pictures if possible.

Thanks

Well looking at the latest hike in dash network hashrate a large number of powerful machines have come online and are hashing away

https://www.p2poolmining.us/dash-breaks-petahash-barrier/

might be another batch of D3s because innosilicon would make a huge announcement that they are shipping to get us off their backs

So until someone can confirm otherwise, a5s haven't started shipping yet


sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
November 06, 2017, 10:42:22 PM
Hello, ive heard on slack group from someone today that some customers have recieved the innosolicon a5 miners already? Can somebody confirm this? I have a few buddies still waiting on these things.
Anyways, if anybody recieved this miners already please update and with pictures if possible.

Thanks
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 06, 2017, 08:22:19 PM
Finally, two days ago I got hold of Chloe (CS Rep from Inno) on Skype. She said they are currently delivering according to orders, but could not provide me with any proof. She said customers will receive additional 0.6% extra hashrate for each day late in the A5 (no idea how this works). Any delivery later than 30 days will receive an A4+ free. I suggested them to make an official statement on their website and on Twitter about their intention to compensate. Until they do this, I do not trust them a bit.
Do you understand how crazy this statement is ? 0.6% hashrate for each day delay Huh? Do you think there's a knob inside the miner that can be tuned to a specific hash rate ?

Or you perhaps think they'll solder more asics inside the boards to accomodate that 0.6%/day for *each* customer ?

Lol!


I did laugh when I got that message from her. I asked her how the hashrate compensation applies and she replied vaguely 20% a month, 0.6% a day......any did not eleborate any further. As I said until they make public announcement on the delivery schedule and their intention to compensate I do not trust them a bit. I squeeze their balls every day on Skype, sometimes I get a reply, other times just dead silence.

Yesterday, came from the air her message on Skype states that all pre-order customers will receive the A5 by Nov 20th with a coupon redeemable for future purchase. Just another joke. I asked the value of the coupon, and again she disappeared without further reply. That means no compensation of an A4+ if I orders are received by Nov 20th.

For all you guys, I will continue to squeeze their balls and will post update.
newbie
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November 06, 2017, 05:31:56 PM
Bitmain, PinIdea and Innosilicon must apply to be a giant DASH Masternode with 100 Masternodes or more they have to buy min 100x1000 DASH = 100000 DASH so the Dash price will pump up and they will get incentive from being a DASH Masternode..Win-Win Solution
full member
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November 06, 2017, 02:42:15 PM
D3s turned into negative profit on Dash net...
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
November 06, 2017, 12:02:30 PM
I don't think that the 10000 USD price reflects the situation in DASH and other x11 coins networks.

I sent Inno e-mail about my honest thoughts in this current situation.



Do they reply to your emails?

Yes, they have replied to me previously. But I have not yet received a reply for this latest e-mail message.
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
November 06, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
I don't think that the 10000 USD price reflects the situation in DASH and other x11 coins networks.

I sent Inno e-mail about my honest thoughts in this current situation.



Do they reply to your emails?
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
November 06, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
Finally, two days ago I got hold of Chloe (CS Rep from Inno) on Skype. She said they are currently delivering according to orders, but could not provide me with any proof. She said customers will receive additional 0.6% extra hashrate for each day late in the A5 (no idea how this works). Any delivery later than 30 days will receive an A4+ free. I suggested them to make an official statement on their website and on Twitter about their intention to compensate. Until they do this, I do not trust them a bit.
Do you understand how crazy this statement is ? 0.6% hashrate for each day delay Huh? Do you think there's a knob inside the miner that can be tuned to a specific hash rate ?

Or you perhaps think they'll solder more asics inside the boards to accomodate that 0.6%/day for *each* customer ?

Lol!
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 06, 2017, 01:53:01 AM
These guys are the worst, they actually advertised that these would be profitable for 2 years.They did disclose that shipping could be delayed,  or have altered specs, but they made false accusations that enticed buyers when they most likely knew bitmain was releasing their miners only hours later. There should be a class action against them and their price was the worst thing about these.


i am agree action class!! i am sure they are broken a lot laws....
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